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Suicide Squad: Jared Leto seems less than thrilled his Joker scenes got cut.

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Broken Joystick

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Blablurn said:
Some might make fun of him now but in 10 years we will look back on this day. This day of August 6th 2016. Where we will come to the conclusion that the Jared Leto version of The Joker from DC Comics might have been the best rendition of the comic character called The Joker. Maybe even of all time. Obviously Heath Ledger, rest in peace brother, was awesome and genious in his role of the Joker but what Jared Leto has delivered, due to the circumstances, due to the recut, due to his troubled past, makes me very positive about the fact that in 10 years, as long as we are not banned, we will come back to this thread, and look around... we will look around and agree. We agree that Letos performance as the Joker in 2016s Suicide Squad was the beginning of the Jared Leto era of Joker. I'm sure we will see much more of him in the future. I wouldn't even mind if we see a Joker Solo movie. Give me a whole move that is basically his origin story. Add some more Harley to get a bigger crowd. This movie doesn't even need a Batman. Maybe not even a Superman. Just Jared Leto as Joker. Some people might me on the edge but you have to look deeper. Dude's killing it. He's giving life to a comic character. Not only life but soul. Leto is a performer. In real life and in movies. In 10 years, GAF. In 10 years you will agree with me.
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almost got me
 
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xRaizen

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I thought his Joker was amazing and was sad that we didn't see more of him. Can't wait for the Batman movie now..
 
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tanooki27

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Jackpot said:
Though I personally don't respect method acting or believe the amount the actor suffers can be used to justify the quality of a character.
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but if it works it works, no? the method is simply that - a method. The practitioner makes the difference
 
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SpacePirate Ridley

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Poona said:
They did film it. They filmed plenty of stuff.

Here's a quick gif of him slapping Harleen from one of the cut pieces.

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Why does it look at the end he is going to take a piss in top of her?

Blablurn said:
Some might make fun of him now but in 10 years we will look back on this day. This day of August 6th 2016. Where we will come to the conclusion that the Jared Leto version of The Joker from DC Comics might have been the best rendition of the comic character called The Joker. Maybe even of all time. Obviously Heath Ledger, rest in peace brother, was awesome and genious in his role of the Joker but what Jared Leto has delivered, due to the circumstances, due to the recut, due to his troubled past, makes me very positive about the fact that in 10 years, as long as we are not banned, we will come back to this thread, and look around... we will look around and agree. We agree that Letos performance as the Joker in 2016s Suicide Squad was the beginning of the Jared Leto era of Joker. I'm sure we will see much more of him in the future. I wouldn't even mind if we see a Joker Solo movie. Give me a whole move that is basically his origin story. Add some more Harley to get a bigger crowd. This movie doesn't even need a Batman. Maybe not even a Superman. Just Jared Leto as Joker. Some people might me on the edge but you have to look deeper. Dude's killing it. He's giving life to a comic character. Not only life but soul. Leto is a performer. In real life and in movies. In 10 years, GAF. In 10 years you will agree with me.
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No, sorry, but no.
 
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Hubbl3

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SCULLIBUNDO said:
His Joker was generic crazy as I'm glad more screen time wasn't wasted on his self-obsessed ass.
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Agreed.

If there was a recipe for "crazy", Leto basically followed it to a "t". I mean, he does a good job of portraying a character that you know is a little off kilter, but jesus there's no depth or personality to his take on the Joker.
 
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Pankratous

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Well, guys, I'm sorry but I liked Leto as Joker. It's a completely different style but he sold the idea of insanity quite well.
 
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Slaythe

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So many people with blind hate in this thread seriously.

He doesn't deserve 5% of that hate, but keep going at it.

What he said is true, he spent a lot of time crafting this character, see it being reduced to 8 minutes of weird scenes isn't really a good thing.
 
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Boney

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Poona said:
They did film it. They filmed plenty of stuff.

Here's a quick gif of him slapping Harleen from one of the cut pieces.

HC5diTT.gif
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The way he stands after the slap...
Saw a review that mentioned the sexualized submissiveness and abuse of Harley
 
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DeathyBoy

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Slaythe said:
So many people with blind hate in this thread seriously.

He doesn't deserve 5% of that hate, but keep going at it.

What he said is true, he spent a lot of time crafting this character, see it being reduced to 8 minutes of weird scenes isn't really a good thing.
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If there's even a 5% chance he deserves that hate, we must treat it as an absolute certainty.
 
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Nipo

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Slaythe said:
So many people with blind hate in this thread seriously.

He doesn't deserve 5% of that hate, but keep going at it.

What he said is true, he spent a lot of time crafting this character, see it being reduced to 8 minutes of weird scenes isn't really a good thing.
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Blind hate? We saw the movie and hated him in it. That is as informed hate as you can get.
 
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Messofanego

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Blablurn said:
Some might make fun of him now but in 10 years we will look back on this day. This day of August 6th 2016. Where we will come to the conclusion that the Jared Leto version of The Joker from DC Comics might have been the best rendition of the comic character called The Joker. Maybe even of all time. Obviously Heath Ledger, rest in peace brother, was awesome and genious in his role of the Joker but what Jared Leto has delivered, due to the circumstances, due to the recut, due to his troubled past, makes me very positive about the fact that in 10 years, as long as we are not banned, we will come back to this thread, and look around... we will look around and agree. We agree that Letos performance as the Joker in 2016s Suicide Squad was the beginning of the Jared Leto era of Joker. I'm sure we will see much more of him in the future. I wouldn't even mind if we see a Joker Solo movie. Give me a whole move that is basically his origin story. Add some more Harley to get a bigger crowd. This movie doesn't even need a Batman. Maybe not even a Superman. Just Jared Leto as Joker. Some people might me on the edge but you have to look deeper. Dude's killing it. He's giving life to a comic character. Not only life but soul. Leto is a performer. In real life and in movies. In 10 years, GAF. In 10 years you will agree with me.
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I think in 10 years we're more likely to remember this dumb overly earnest post than anything lol. Nice trolling, Blaburn.
 
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Pankratous

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UnemployedVillain said:
I love how they kept saying how they were bad guys and didn't do any bad things
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We obviously didn't watch the same movie.

Harley smashed a shop window (strike 1) and stole clothes from within (strike 2), and then later, serves alcohol in a bar she doesn't even own (strike 3).

She's a regular fucking badass and don't you forget it.
 
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Horse Detective

Why the long case?
He is such a corny motherfucker tbh.

Everything I have seen about him concerning this movie in the last few months has seemed like a try hard attempt to end up in the trivia section of the film's imdb page. His method acting crap is embarrassing.
 
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SpaceWolf

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Sulik2 said:
I want to see the movie Ayer wanted to make. We need a directors cut.
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According to David Ayer, the theatrical version is his cut.
We have a chunk, there’s definitely over 10 minutes of material on there. But this cut of the movie is my cut, there’s no sort of parallel universe version of the movie, the released movie is my cut. And that’s one of the toughest things about writing, shooting, and directing a film, is you end up with these orphans and you fucking love them and you think they’d be amazing scenes and do these amazing things but the film is a dictatorship (laughs), not a democracy, and just because something’s cool and charismatic doesn’t mean it gets to survive in the final cut. The flow of the movie is the highest master.
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Poor Jared.
 
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J_Viper

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I think it's hard for anyone to call his performance poor. He simply isn't in the movie enough to judge.

Hell, that chemical vat scene was one of the only sequences in the film that wasn't shit.


SpaceWolf said:
According to David Ayer, the theatrical version is his cut.
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This is him taking the bullet. There's no way this monstrosity is his.
 
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FUBAR McDangles

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He was the best part of the movie and deserved more screen time, so he has a right to be frustrated.

Cannot wait to see more of him and his Joker going forward.
 
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BKSmash

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J_Viper said:
I think it's hard for anyone to call his performance poor. He simply isn't in the movie enough to judge.
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Exactly, he needed longer
and better
scenes, what we got were just smal samples and IMO The Joker needs more screen time to really shine.

And yeah, I like Jared's Joker, it's so different from Heath's that it works.
 
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Ovek

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The fact that he got recalled for re-shoots with everyone else and still only ended up in about three scenes probably burns a little bit as well.
 
Vigilant Walrus

Vigilant Walrus

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I've not seen the film, but it does sound like ego tripping which isn't abnormal. I think it's difficult being an actor. Way more difficult than most people realize, but it is possible (speculating) that Jared Leto tried too hard.

Many great actors have fallen into the trap of overplaying, when portraying a psychopath characters. Why? Because playing crazy loonies is the favorite thing for actors. They get to be broad, express themselves, and are much more unhinged than playing good characters.

And there is something the audience picks up about an actor playing "crazy". Much like actors being drunk. It's very hard to pull off. The audience gets annoyed quickly because it robs the story of having to make sense. Having a psycho character means that the character can break the dramatically based structure and not adhere to the script. It doesn't have to make sense because the character is insane, and so the actor can do what it wants, acting like a baby. It gets old.

So to pull it off, an actor/actress need to find a very narrow window of being insane, and being coherent and relateable in some form, and Heath Ledgers Joker did that. Ledgers Joker, like Nickelson also absolutely nailed the one-liners ("why so serious?", "some men want to watch the world burn" and so on) and that was incredible entertaining.



I don't understand it because Jared Leto is a great actor, but he also has an ego. He won an Oscar even. He doesn't have to be so upset.
 
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Slaythe

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Vigilant Walrus said:
I've not seen the film, but it does sound like ego tripping which isn't abnormal. I think it's difficult being an actor. Way more difficult than most people realize, but it is possible (speculating) that Jared Leto tried too hard.

Many great actors have fallen into the trap of overplaying, when portraying a psychopath characters. Why? Because playing crazy loonies is the favorite thing for actors. They get to be broad, express themselves, and are much more unhinged than playing good characters.

And there is something the audience picks up about an actor playing "crazy". Much like actors being drunk. It's very hard to pull off. The audience gets annoyed quickly because it robs the story of having to make sense. Having a psycho character means that the character can break the dramatically based structure and not adhere to the script. It doesn't have to make sense because the character is insane, and so the actor can do what it wants, acting like a baby. It gets old.

So to pull it off, an actor/actress need to find a very narrow window of being insane, and being coherent and relateable in some form, and Heath Ledgers Joker did that. Ledgers Joker, like Nickelson also absolutely nailed the one-liners ("why so serious?", "some men want to watch the world burn" and so on) and that was incredible entertaining.



I don't understand it because Jared Leto is a great actor, but he also has an ego. He won an Oscar even. He doesn't have to be so upset.
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None of what he has said has to do with ego.

He spent months working on this for what ended up being 8 minutes of screentime, at most.

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He isn't just the "hot topic" gangsta joker, his character was multi faceted, and sadly the movie's final cut does a really poor job at portraying that.

Anybody would be butt hurt.
 
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Fury451

Banned
Lol at "we all die". Leto has always seemed really intense. Not a fan of his Joker at all, but he's a great actor, and if be pissed too if I was proud of my work and it got cut.

I hope this experience doesn't DAMAGED his attitude though.
 
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Napoleonthechimp

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Boney said:
The way he stands after the slap...
Saw a review that mentioned the sexualized submissiveness and abuse of Harley
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Stockholm syndrome.

The guy is a psychotic abusive nutjob, but yet a lot of women seem to love their relationship. Why people think sexualised domeistic abuse is out of the norm for the Joker when around Harley boggles my mind.
 
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