Heck, you can even have him take them out one-by-one over the course of the film like a horror movie.
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Suicide Squad: Jared Leto seems less than thrilled his Joker scenes got cut.
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Heck, you can even have him take them out one-by-one over the course of the film like a horror movie.
Ha, forgot he was in that. Batman does kill.
Kibbles
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Jared's always this weird and morbid. Has nothing to do with Heath he was talking about how actors footage always comes out after their deaths.From a recent interview with IGN where they got the chance to sit down with the actor:
Jared mate, you're not Heath Ledger and that's okay.
Hurt me really, really bad if old.
Shit must suck, he spent 6 months with no eyebrows, green hair, and got jacked up for the role and dedicated himself and only ends up with 10min. It's not like he was only on set for a couple weeks, that's 6 months of his personal life invested in this film.
Also, y'all can stop with " his shit on set" everyone gives gifts to costars, he just decided to have fun and do it I'm character. Cara and Margot have talked about how he's sent thoughtful and nice gifts relating to their character too, but it's only fun to talk about the weird ones. The "used condoms" btw were clarified by David Ayer in Rolling Stone were just "open condoms" ripped out of their packaging, nothing more. It also makes sense given how Ayer has written this Joker to be more crude. The lines about Harley being the itch in his crotch and later on him saying he has a bare skin rubber waiting,,,
Jared has said the whole ,calling him "Mr. J" thing and separating Jim was entirely David Ayer's doing. A lot of you are confusing the actors telling the same marketing points in every interview about how Jared was in character and sent them gifts as him having a shit ton of antics on set. Sending some gifts is nothing and from interviews it sounds like the cast got themselves into a bunch their own weird crazy shit they refuse to talk about.
But Jared has talked about how it's the most fun he ever had on a movie and how he is looking forward to seeing this Joker go up against Batmam so he's really not all doom and gloom about it, just probably disappointed the movie ended up a lot different.
Nah. It's still awful logic to have them government sanctioned AND have Batman after them. That's the kind of weak plotting that hurts legs and reviews.
The right approach for the film they were making is to have content that makes it clear who they are.
They clearly decided to softball idea they're villains anyway. The audience ultimately is supposed to root for them so they were always going to be defined as misfits.
They should have just completely ripped off Dirty Dozen completely and decided who's "thieves with honour" and who's legit bad guys who will be taken down in the end (by the honourable misfits on the team).
Of course the real big logic flaw is why not just have Batman solve stuff as he's clearly capable of and leave 'em in jail. Hell he had no trouble taking down Superman so if you're worried about next Superman being bad... Seems more obvious route to go. He's proven in the role why risk these guys?
Bottom line DC and WB do not have their internal logic ducks in a row for their cinematic Universe and it's showing painfully with every film thus far.
If all this stuff has to intercut nicely they need to at least match Marvel's fairly solid execution in keeping all the characters relevant to each other across different films.
Messofanego
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Batman finally kills the Joker!
More_Badass
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You think Barman cares if they're government sanctioned or not? That's like saying the assassins in Bourne movies shouldn't be stopped because they're government-sanctioned
Astral Dog
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poor Jared 
The movie definetly needed more Joker scenes,they made the fucking Joker an accessory to Harley Queen. and even kind of symphatetic
The movie definetly needed more Joker scenes,they made the fucking Joker an accessory to Harley Queen. and even kind of symphatetic
I think general audiences who don't read CB question weak logic. The evidence is there. For the budget and numbers WB want they need to reach general audiences like Nolan did and Marvel do.
Batman isn't real. None of it is. But it should still make sense. Having a dirty dozen film AND Batman AND Joker is too much to balance (as the messy edit of SS shows).
Throw everything into the blender and you get mediocre results like BvS and SS. It's not like the evidence isn't right there in the films themselves. They're bloated messes of movies.
You avoid confusion with why have SS at all by keeping Batman and Superman out of it or by including them sensibly.
Having the squad have s mission and antagonist AMD have to worry about Batman or other Heros is too much to juggle unless you have s really good script, narrative and director capable of executing that complexity.
I like Ayers other films bit on the evidence neither he nor the scriptwriters were up to it (although I'll concede many issues could be studio interference based if they tried to force stuff into the mix).
benjipwns
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demosthenes
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I actually liked him as the Joker, a lot. :|
Kibbles
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Heh I like this interview: https://youtu.be/aTyEYdu-9Uw
moltonasty
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he has every right to be frustrated, i thought his joker was really intriguing but def needed more sceeentime to flesh out the character
Lol. I guess that's a low blow in heated comic book character discussions.
But I honestly don't care s not about their comic setting. Once they're in s film they need to work based on ful logic or get critiqued for failing to.
Honestly at this point it feels every DC film has to have a part for every character. They need to tone it down and show some damn patience and build this shit up sensibly.
The whole focus on Joker gor SS for him to be fairly minor role is a good microsm of the issue.
Obliterator
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I feel pretty sympathetic with him on this one. By all accounts he did a lot of filming and actual work on the film and had that all boiled down essentially to a cameo. That has to piss you off.
Only by proxy. It was the axe that killed him, not Batman.
Lamel
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Lmao.. . . Suddenly, Jared grabbed me and threw me against the table. "Makes you want to laugh," he continued, "Doesn't it, IGN?"
Leto trying way too hard. Calm down man.
ShutterMunster
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This thread, particularly the first page, is weird AF. Dude put a lot of work in and a lot of his scenes were cut. He's upset. Why is that hard to fathom? This actor's response is not specific to Letogo read the responses of actors who were cut completely out of Terrence Malick's films.
Bringing Heath into this conversation is bizarre.
Bringing Heath into this conversation is bizarre.
peanutbutterlatte
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It's a completely normal thing to do, comparing people taking the same roles and how they played it differently. Happens with Shakespeare all the time.
guggnichso
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But well, Batman doesn't work for the government.
Kibbles
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... Thats fake. Sounds like you're trying too hard
I think it's Leto's own reference to dying that makes people think about HL. It's a natural connection to make give the context.
Killer Queen
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I'm sure your paycheck would decide otherwise.I wonder if Leto signed a multi-film contract. Doesn't sound like he might want to come back.
Askherserenity
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Not sure what's up with all the Leto hate. He's actually a pretty great actor.
Anyone would be piss after working so hard for this role. He was so excited for it too, just to see most of it being cut from the movie. It must feel pretty shitty.
Anyone would be piss after working so hard for this role. He was so excited for it too, just to see most of it being cut from the movie. It must feel pretty shitty.
Leto has never been one to care too much.
I wonder if Leto signed a multi-film contract. Doesn't sound like he might want to come back.
They just need to do a decent Batfleck film, with him as the villain, and everyone would be happy, i assume.
AgentOtaku
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I think a good example of this is Jim Carreys Riddler.... Shit is insufferable
Kibbles
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He did some more interviews recently where he sounded excited for the Joker's future so I think he's coming back. Rumor is Ryan Gosling turned down the role because he didn't want to sign on for a multi picture deal, so if that's true I assume Leto did.I wonder if Leto signed a multi-film contract. Doesn't sound like he might want to come back.
benjipwns
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Joker being in a Batman movie is a big surprise to conceal?
Sorcerer
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Not Joker himself, but the revealing of the Joker. No we know what to expect because he had 8 minutes in SS that seem somewhat trivial.
Makes me wonder if they have other plans for that movie?
I agree. He is a great actor, but a shit Joker.
blackdevil
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hope we see an R Rated Version of this movie. I`m sick of DC trying to copy Marvel. Make your movies and stop fu**ing up such great characters. Filming alot of scenes with Joker and then leaving it out is such a stupid idea.
Not going to see this in the cinema. They wont get my money for acting like idiots.
Not going to see this in the cinema. They wont get my money for acting like idiots.
How are they copying Marvel? Do you mean by having an interconnected cinematic universe?
GhostWriter24
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I feel like the cast and crew worked really hard on the movie and were pleased of the thing they got to be a part of and became friends, practically bonding on set and then WB slashed apart and moved around the thing they were so proud of.
Jared is just the only one venting(atleast publicly) and it makes sense considering his character was the one to lose out the most. Here's a list of the scenes that were cut from the movie, be sure to ctrl+f Joker: https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinemat...st_of_the_deleted_scenes/d65ifd0?compact=true
Jared is just the only one venting(atleast publicly) and it makes sense considering his character was the one to lose out the most. Here's a list of the scenes that were cut from the movie, be sure to ctrl+f Joker: https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinemat...st_of_the_deleted_scenes/d65ifd0?compact=true
Tbh the trailers gave the impression that he'd be in it a lot more than he was.
I liked this version of the joker. Sort of embedded in the crime world. Loved the scene of him at the strip club with the prison guard. The anticipation of his arrival. His goons.
Hopefully we see some more of his Joker in another movie.
I liked this version of the joker. Sort of embedded in the crime world. Loved the scene of him at the strip club with the prison guard. The anticipation of his arrival. His goons.
Hopefully we see some more of his Joker in another movie.
blackdevil
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no by trying to copy Guardians of the galaxy. It`s clear that the movie was dark and gritty. So dark they cut almost everything Leto filmed and reshoot so much the reviews say it`s like watching 2 movies.
WB is all over the place and it`s annoying to see great characters like the Joker getting kicked in the metal teeth like that.
More_Badass
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They really sliced this movie up. Removed all the character defining stuff that would have given the squad personality
deadscreensky
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Somehow it's actually worse than I would have imagined.
Honestly he was better than I expected in Suicide Squad, in that I didn't cringe throughout all of his (blessedly few) scenes. But he also sucked all of the energy out of any scene he was in, so it's too bad future DC movies are stuck with his 'take' on the character. A Joker who isn't funny, scary, or really anything memorable at all is a strange approach to the character.
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