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Vox Review: Netflix & Marvel’s Iron Fist is an ill-conceived, poorly written disaster

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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
I think one of the most glaring things is how poor a lot of the choreography and fight scenes are. There are dudes literally throwing their arms out for no reason except to let someone grab onto them. Like its not even an attack its just a dude sticking his arm out a second before it needs to be grabbed. This kind of stuff happens a lot and I realize this is incredibly common but they don't even hide it with camera angles, editing or the like which is even funnier as a lot of the fight scenes are over edited in general.
 
I hated JJ but at least I could admit it was generally well received. Iron Fist seems on a whole different level. It's probably going to go down as a universal embarrassment.
 

Clinton514

Member
Maybe if the Iron Fist was a female Asian lead, more people would be happy.

Sure the fighting is sub-par compared to Daredevil but wow, the drama just doesn't stop with some crowds.
 

LionPride

Banned
And of all the fucking things you wanna say about Jessica Jones or Luke Cage, wrong or wrong, you cannot call them poorly conceived.
 

Barzul

Member
I'm watching this and oh my God I can't believe for some of the scenes someone actually oked the content of the script. Like it's so ridiculously bad in some part you'd be full not to notice and then change it.
 

Dynomutt

Member
He did seem like a discount Arrow, especially season 1 which was excellent.

But Colleen, Claire and Joy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Felicity, Laurel and Theo

Oliver Queen (CW) vs. Danny Rand (Netflix)

Dark Alley
No Gear or Abilities

Bloodlust on!

No prep time...

Also:

Felicity and those dresses = whew!
Colleen and that spandex = whew!

It's a wash there lol!
 

Ceres

Banned
Literally the only places I see so much hate for Jessica Jones and Luke Cage are GAF and Reddit. Some people have an issue with Cage's second half, I liked it myself, but a lot of others don't like it period...

I love Jessica Jones and the first half of Luke Cage. The second half was an awful step down. And the fact of what made it bad is likely to be back in Defenders and/or Cage s2 is not something I look forward to.
 
I would like to fight your master please
You ready to face the strike of the red lipped tiger, where you must strike your foe with your fist holding McDonald's fries?

You do not want to challenge Sensei Danny Rand-kun, you'll lose and have to commit the ancient practice of sudoku
 

Nairume

Banned
The fights here look generic, to the point where if you told me they were actually footage from the ’90s Power Rangers series, I would believe you.
Rewatching it during the marathon, this is an insanely unfair comparison to 90s power rangers. The people in those shows actually look like they had some martial arts experience, which is more than can be said about Iron Fist.
 

LotusHD

Banned
I am enjoying it more than Luke Cage, I mean its not great but none of the marvel tv shows are.

I mean reviews and such disagree, but I digress. Also Agents of Shield is having a fucking fantastic season right now.

Maybe if the Iron Fist was a female Asian lead, more people would be happy.

There were several times where I wished Colleen was the star, or that she'd get her own spinoff. The writing kind of crapped on her character later on, but I still like her a lot compared to everyone else in the cast that's new to the MCU.

I hated JJ but at least I could admit it was generally well received. Iron Fist seems on a whole different level. It's probably going to go down as a universal embarrassment.

Yea, like whatever people think of the other shows, they had good things about them. This show... if it gets a season 2, they need to rework basically everything. Or just do a Heroes for Hire thing with Luke.
 

Maximo

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Daredevil and Jessica Jones are good. I enjoyed both seasons of DD, even though Foggy is pretty insufferable a lot of the time. Luke Cage was fine up until the 2nd half.

Iron Fist is just uninspired and bland. At least the other three shows had personality, but IF is just kind of...there. It exists and that's about it.

Yep this each had their own unique personality that held up despite some questionable dialogue and plot through some of them. I made it through the first half of Season 1 Of Arrow/Gotham and Arrow season 3 so IF is defiantly better then them..but thats not saying much its watchable I had fun with it but its disappointing, It could have been alot better and now im hoping it doesn't drag down Defenders.
 

Dynomutt

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Yea, like whatever people think of the other shows, they had good things about them. This show... if it gets a season 2, they need to rework basically everything. Or just do a Heroes for Hire thing with Luke.

Maybe it wasn't Danny Rand afterall?
 

Dryk

Member
Maybe if the Iron Fist was a female Asian lead, more people would be happy.
No because then you'd lose the show's only saving grace. My main enjoyment in the first few episodes has come from Danny being a creep or randomly segueing into philosophy and everyone being not okay with it.
 

.JayZii

Banned
Has the public opinion finally turned on these Marvel shows and everyone is now in the post-porn post-climax clarity and shame phase because they've all been hyping them all to hell and back?
 

Averon

Member
How could they bungle the fights? It's a goddamn show about a mystical martial artist!!! If there was one thing they had to get right, it is the fights. A lot could be forgiven if the fight choreography was good, but it sounds like it is not even at Daredevil level, and that should be the bare minimum you should expect from this type of show.
 

LotusHD

Banned
Yep this each had their own unique personality that held up despite some questionable dialogue and plot through some of them. I made it through the first half of Season 1 Of Arrow/Gotham and Arrow season 3 so IF is defiantly better then them..but thats not saying much its watchable I had fun with it but its disappointing, It could have been alot better and now im hoping it doesn't drag down Defenders.

Ooh, Iron Fist might be better than Gotham, I haven't watched it in awhile. That's something at least lol

Everything else though, nah

Maybe it wasn't Danny Rand afterall?

Hmm...


Lol I know right

Has the public opinion finally turned on these Marvel shows and everyone is now in the post-porn post-climax clarity and shame phase because they've all been hyping them all to hell and back?

No, just Iron Fist. Very much excited for Defenders, which will hopefully salvage Danny for us.
 

The Kree

Banned
Has the public opinion finally turned on these Marvel shows and everyone is now in the post-porn post-climax clarity and shame phase because they've all been hyping them all to hell and back?

Nope. It's just one show with bad reviews. Bubble still intact.
 

LotusHD

Banned
No because then you'd lose the show's only saving grace. My main enjoyment in the first few episodes has come from Danny being a creep or randomly segueing into philosophy and everyone being not okay with it.

This pic says it all lol:

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The Kree

Banned
That was especially bad cause this Kung Fu master got his ass handed to him by a rando arson thug. He nearly lost that fight lmao The guy wasn't even named.

Well, he was dizzy from getting clocked from behind. That's ultimately forgivable.
 

jett

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I wonder if S1 of Daredevil turns to shit on a rewatch. I could only endure one episode of Jessica Jones and only a few of DD's S2. Not even bothered with Luke Cage and this new shitshow.
 

LionPride

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Has the public opinion finally turned on these Marvel shows and everyone is now in the post-porn post-climax clarity and shame phase because they've all been hyping them all to hell and back?

Nope, just made a shitty show

Still better than Gotham
 

Renpatsu

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I wonder if S1 of Daredevil turns to shit on a rewatch. I could only endure one episode of Jessica Jones and only a few of DD's S2. Not even bothered with Luke Cage and this new shitshow.
Daredevil has D'Onofrio as the Kingpin.
 
jessica jones and the little I saw of luke cage was pretty bad.

Daredevil has had it's acting and glaring pacing problems too. but it makes up for it with the bad guys (Kingpin and Punisher) charisma and the action at least.

never gonna be able to rewatch daredevil tho, as much as I enjoyed it you could tell it was already wearing out its welcome as you progress through either season.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
I wonder if S1 of Daredevil turns to shit on a rewatch. I could only endure one episode of Jessica Jones and only a few of DD's S2. Not even bothered with Luke Cage and this new shitshow.

It does fall apart in sections for me. Its still good as a whole but it honestly suffers a lot of the same issues as JJ and Luke Cage they just aren't as glaring.
 

mreddie

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I wonder if S1 of Daredevil turns to shit on a rewatch. I could only endure one episode of Jessica Jones and only a few of DD's S2. Not even bothered with Luke Cage and this new shitshow.

The villains are what makes the shows.

Only problem with Fist is the villains are kinda there and rarely do anything of note.
 
Why are you including Joy in that? Her and the rest of the family were just awful. Furthermore, Thea's better than her.

She seemed less insufferable than Laurel did in the first season.

Oliver Queen (CW) vs. Danny Rand (Netflix)

Dark Alley
No Gear or Abilities

Bloodlust on!

No prep time...

Danny would get his shit wrecked even with his iron fist powers. Oliver in season 1 was no joke.

Also:

Felicity and those dresses = whew!
Colleen and that spandex = whew!

It's a wash there lol!

No lies detected. Colleen in spandex and yoga pants pretty much all the time is just...got damn. I should say I actually liked Felicity until season 2, but in the later seasons they completely tanked her character.
 

LotusHD

Banned
Daredevil has D'Onofrio as the Kingpin.

That's another thing. The other shows all had memorable villains. Kingpin. Kilgrave. Cottonmouth. Even Diamondback managed to be more memorable than what went down in Iron Fist despite him being a clown.
 

j0hnnix

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Came into it with low expectations and its not extremely bad.. I do like it better than Jessica Jones, which annoyed the living crap out of me.. that's personal preference. Its definitely slow paced and Nothing compared too DD.

I'd put it right below Luke Cage and way above Jessica crap.
 
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