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So... PS5 will have the best looking games next gen for the first year(s)

Shmunter

Member
Lol so you actually believe that?! Hahaha! So many have disproven your speculations in many other threads, yet you still spread b.s. as facts. Why would anyone want a gpu with an SSD on it for gaming? I could understand for movie studios, but not gaming. I'll take vram over a SSD all day, every day, for my gpu's. YOU simply mentioning that proves to me you don't understand how any of this works. I'll just let Digital Foundry rip you a new one when consoles release.

The same games you were trolling for Microsoft's show the other day, feature the better looking 3rd party games than what will be on ps5. A faster SSD can't help them there either.
Remember, Denial is not a river in Egypt. But that’s ok, you’ll grow on this journey, and I’m looking forward to seeing you blossom. Don’t let anyone deny you that.
 

Stuart360

Member
Actually AAA PC gaming days are numbered. The ssd standard will make development too easy to ignore and pc has no answers for this. No matter how fast a pc ssd, it’s the bespoke console i/o pipeline that is just too intense should it saturate current gen PC CPU’s getting the data into ram.

I know it can be hard to accept, but sadly facts don’t care about your feelings, you feel me?

But PC should be ok with last gen ports for awhile yet so don’t lose hope. By then maybe gfx cards will come with ssd onboard.
Shmunter would you mind if i posted this post somewhere else?
 
Remember, Denial is not a river in Egypt. But that’s ok, you’ll grow on this journey, and I’m looking forward to seeing you blossom. Don’t let anyone deny you that.
*Inserts random phrases in hopes that people won't realize I changed the subject, since I am clueless on this topic*. ~ Shmunter Shmunter ~

Changing the subject when you come under fire, doesn't help your speculations, especially when they are completely wrong. I'll bookmark your post for future references though!
 

martino

Member
Man some people watch too much youtube video from guys doing them to get their view.
 
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pasterpl

Member
Actually AAA PC gaming days are numbered. The ssd standard will make development too easy to ignore and pc has no answers for this. No matter how fast a pc ssd, it’s the bespoke console i/o pipeline that is just too intense should it saturate current gen PC CPU’s getting the data into ram.

I know it can be hard to accept, but sadly facts don’t care about your feelings, you feel me?

But PC should be ok with last gen ports for awhile yet so don’t lose hope. By then maybe gfx cards will come with ssd onboard.

that’s some next level shit ...lol...

seriously, how can every single Sony fan become so blinded with that SSD talk and think that it is like second coming ffs
 

Shmunter

Member
I agree with all of you skeptics. I too am a man of skepticism, highly so. But this time, it’s the real deal. Be patient, it will slowly start surfacing and becoming clearer. I’ll leave it there, glad we had this talk.
 
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that’s some next level shit ...lol...

seriously, how can every single Sony fan become so blinded with that SSD talk and think that it is like second coming ffs

It happens every new console gen, then reality finally dawns when the consoles release. That post is honestly still blowing my mind, i dont know how to respond to it, and thats not like me lol.

It's quite cringey to say the least, but at least it makes it easy to separate the people who know what they are talking about, and the utterly clueless folks.

That's exactly why I'm saving it for later.
 

Stuart360

Member
I agree with all of you skeptics. I too am a man of skepticism, highly so. But this time, it’s the real deal. Be patient, it will slowly start surfacing and becoming clearer. I’ll leave it there, glad we had this talk.
Its lunacy. Not only are there already NVME SSD's faster than whats in XSX, there are ones faster than PS5 already on the way, and may actually release before PS5. And even if we lived in an alternate reality where SSD's didnt exist on PC, all what would happen is next gen games would reccomend like 32gb of ram, as ram is still many, many times faster thanSSD's, and always will be, so data would just be streamed from Ram instead. Thankfully we dont live in that alternate reality.

Every game shown on the XSX event is coming to PC. XSX first party games are coming to PC. PS5 games will come to PC at some point imo.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if ms's stance on this changed with the outrage from their last showing and general online opinion and you will actually see some xsx exclusive games at launch (more than they planned to anyway) they might change policy like most companies do these days by gauging online reactions to stuff I've no doubt whatsoever ms will bring it from the start they have a good many studios now and the games we saw the other day most of them will end up on ps5 exactly the same but I think it's a given Sony will launch with ps5 exclusives... But launch lineups don't matter to me at all though it's totally not an indication of how good said console is over the 6-7 year gen I mean it's nice but the majority will still be playing cod/FIFA/Fortnite etc it won't matter to them .
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
I think PS5 will have some fantastic looking first party games, but I also think Xbox's conference may be an indication of how COVID19 is really affecting the development process in that people a running up against some hard deadlines. I was impressed that they were able to put what they did together, but I'm looking at it through the handicap of our circumstances today. Sony staying relatively quiet until their supposed showing in June may be the right choice. Microsoft obviously forced things here and especially after watching DF's review of the Xbox show...I think it's benefitting Sony that Xbox is trying to jump the gun here.
 

Tamy

Banned
Hey,

can someone explain to me, how Xbox series X can launch with this game:


According to the Dev this game is only possible on nextgen console and the Xbox series X is the only nextgen console that will receive this game.
 
Hey,

can someone explain to me, how Xbox series X can launch with this game:


According to the Dev this game is only possible on nextgen console and the Xbox series X is the only nextgen console that will receive this game.

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Now, in fairness, we don't know if it will look as good or better than Sony's first party PS5 titles, which is what I think this thread is about, but still, at the very least it DOES appear that XsX will have some games showing off next gen power from the jump, which is nice.
 

Thirty7ven

Banned
Easy prediction isn't it?

The only next system where you're going to get exclusive first party games, and those exclusives just so happen to be made by some of the industry's finest.
 

D.Final

Banned
I think PS5 will have some fantastic looking first party games, but I also think Xbox's conference may be an indication of how COVID19 is really affecting the development process in that people a running up against some hard deadlines. I was impressed that they were able to put what they did together, but I'm looking at it through the handicap of our circumstances today. Sony staying relatively quiet until their supposed showing in June may be the right choice. Microsoft obviously forced things here and especially after watching DF's review of the Xbox show...I think it's benefitting Sony that Xbox is trying to jump the gun here.

Even Sony will be affected by this.
Probably
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
Even Sony will be affected by this.
Probably
Oh for sure. I'm not saying that they won't...but them biding their time rather than jumping the gun may end up better for them in the long run.

Is it really though? What if Hellblade 2 manages to blow us away on XsX? It’s possible.
Fingers, toes and eyes crossed that this is the case. I believe in Ninja Theory.
 
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Vitter.

Member
Cutting development time is something completely pro-competitiveness and pro-enviroment you know.
yes but not to be lazier, as you pointed out, but to have more time to solve different things and focus on stuff that maybe you did not have more time before.
 
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Journey

Banned
Oh for sure. I'm not saying that they won't...but them biding their time rather than jumping the gun may end up better for them in the long run.


Fingers, toes and eyes crossed that this is the case. I believe in Ninja Theory.


Hellblade 2 is the most impressive next gen footage that I've seen so far, that along with Project Mara and Bright Memory Infinite.

Other than Godfall, have we seen anything else for PS5?
 

Guilty_AI

Member
yes but not to be lazier, as you pointed out, but to have more time to solve different things and focus on stuff that maybe you did not have more time before.
...did you even read my entire comment? I never said 'lazier' in a negative connotation, which is why i even used quotes
 

Hobbygaming

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As usual - bringing in a subjective comment to justify an objective fact. Just because PS 1st party exclusives look better to you from an artistic standpoint doesn't make them technologically superior. In fact, that is never the case at all. The PS5/XSX are just PCs with various parts integrated into one unit.
Would you agree that PS4 has had the most impressive exclusive library altogether this generation as far as visuals?
 

Hobbygaming

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Hellblade 2 is the most impressive next gen footage that I've seen so far, that along with Project Mara and Bright Memory Infinite.

Other than Godfall, have we seen anything else for PS5?
I think next month will show that PlayStation will continue to have the most impressive games but XSX will have some good looking stuff too
 

Hobbygaming

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I think Hellblade 2 is going to look better than anything we see on PS5 this year. The footage we’ve already been shown is just absurd.
Hellblade 2 will be up against games like God of War Ragnorak :) and Spider-man 2
 
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Hobbygaming

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Yes, and will likely look better IMO. It’s running on a more powerful console, after all.
😂 I hope you don't think that is the only factor. Sony has the much more proven studios and technology groups like VASG and I.C.E

Also these consoles will be very similar
 

Journey

Banned
2022 is likely right. Hellblade 2 and God of War 5 will probably release in 2022


2022 is wishful thinking on my part. Looking back at the God of War III and God of War PS4 gap, it was 8 years in between, I don't know that it would take that long again, but even though 2022 seems far from today, when you consider PS5 is launching technically in 2021 (Last month of 2020) One year later to get God of War 5 seems rushed now that I think about it. That being said, for that game alone I would buy a PS5. Release dates will determine if I will wait for the PS5 Pro, but it's starting to make sense for me, Xbox Series X may be more powerful and make sense for launch, then PS5 Pro for the big guns at their full ray traced glory since historically those haven't been around the first year or two anyway.
 
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Hobbygaming

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2022 is wishful thinking on my part. Looking back at the God of War III and God of War PS4 gap, it was 8 years in between, I don't know that it would take that long again, but even though 2022 seems far from today, when consider PS5 is launching technically in 2021 (Last month of 2020) One year later to get God of War 5 seems rushed now that I think about it.
God of War 4 took longer because they basically had to redo their engine from scratch. Implementing Atreus also made the development longer because SSM wasn't used to AI companions

They already have the engine now and PS5 is the easier PlayStation console to develop for going by what developers have been telling Jim Ryan and Mark Cerny
 

Hobbygaming

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I have no idea when Spidey 2, Good of War 5, or Hellblade 2 will release. My hunch with a Hellblade 2 is leaning toward early 2021 at the latest, but who knows
If I had to guess and yes it's all speculation

Spider-man 2 in 2021
God of War in 2022
Hellblade 2 in 2022

I believe they sad Hellblade 2 is early in development but I could be mistaken
 

Journey

Banned
God of War 4 took longer because they basically had to redo their engine from scratch. Implementing Atreus also made the development longer because SSM wasn't used to AI companions

They already have the engine now and PS5 is the easier PlayStation console to develop for going by what developers have been telling Jim Ryan and Mark Cerny


I hope you're right.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I have no idea when Spidey 2, Good of War 5, or Hellblade 2 will release. My hunch with a Hellblade 2 is leaning toward early 2021 at the latest, but who knows

I don't know man. Ninja Theory are absolute wizards no doubt, but I can't see it releasing that early, I would think like late 2022 at the earliest. I will say though, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I can't wait to play it, the visuals are mind-blowing.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
If I had to guess and yes it's all speculation

Spider-man 2 in 2021
God of War in 2022
Hellblade 2 in 2022

I believe they sad Hellblade 2 is early in development but I could be mistaken

You're correct, which is sadly why I doubt we will see it any earlier than late 2022.
 

Snake29

RSI Employee of the Year
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Now, in fairness, we don't know if it will look as good or better than Sony's first party PS5 titles, which is what I think this thread is about, but still, at the very least it DOES appear that XsX will have some games showing off next gen power from the jump, which is nice.

While the gameplay part looked ok, it didn't screamed next-gen at all.

I think Hellblade 2 is going to look better than anything we see on PS5 this year. The footage we’ve already been shown is just absurd.

That was in-engine and not gameplay. Everything can look much better in-engine. By the time HB is coming, there will already be much better looking games (or maybe already in a month).
 
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Hobbygaming

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Have these been confirmed?
It's God of War and Spider-man lol but Santa Monica only makes God of War games they had a new IP alongside it but it was canceled

Sony did say Insomniac Games will be working on Spider-man and Ratchet and Clank when asked about Sunset Overdrive coming to PlayStation
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
It's God of War and Spider-man lol but Santa Monica only makes God of War games they had a new IP alongside it but it was canceled

Sony did say Insomniac Games will be working on Spider-man and Ratchet and Clank when asked about Sunset Overdrive coming to PlayStation
Spiderman was amazing on the PS4 so be interesting how it will be on PA5
 

phil_t98

#SonyToo
It's going to be crazy especially with the Zen 2 cpus in these next gen consoles
Be interesting what they do in terms of level design, with the talk of the SSD stuff people think level design will change. I can’t realy see it, spiderman had some big open areas. I can see how it will stream quicker but that’s about it
 
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