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[yurqqa]

Yeah... I actually thought I'd buy both consoles.

Well... Not anymore.

 

[deriks]

They didn't fucked up, but it was a great start and then basically nothing

 

[dottme]

They wanna sell xbox consoleS, game pass and smart delivery it seems.

Yes. I’m not sur eit’s a good idea. If the XSX doesn’t sell well, publisher will prioritize the PS5 and the XSX will be behind again.At least, it should not be as bad as the Xbox One as the console has some good argument this time against the PS5.

 

[Mista]

I'm glad I decided to go PC-only for next-gen, just as I did for this one.

Same but with PS5 too

 

[MarkMe2525]

That shit was lame. I really thought that they would have looked at the criticism they got from the last showing and pivoted to a gameplay focused event. They didn't change the format at all, like at all.

 

[Gamernyc78]

BTW as always Aaron Greenberg and Phil let down with their "oh after Sony's presentation we feel good about the games we are going to show" really?

 

[Mass Shift]

LETS GOOOOOO FABLE SAVED THE SHOWW!!!!!!!!!

For me it did. I went an entire gen without swinging my axe in Albion. I'm ready to cleave and chop once again.

 

[Bartski]

not sure how that all landed with Halo fans but to me the best thing of the whole show was ORI 4k/120 and that's kinda depressing

 

[kriolo]

Also Microsoft showed too much,i Dont remember the games,just 4 of 30! Less is better.

 

[ricardo_sousa11]

Honestly I think the problem is they just showed to much.

They could have shown a handful of in engine cutscenes like Sony and would have went over better.

They showed too much of nothing, barely any gameplay, 10 second cgi trailers, and the whole format of this presentation is a copy of Ps5 presentation trailer - console shots - developers rinse and repeat.

They would have done better if they had not made a conference, at least we'd still have high expectations like we did 2hrs ago, but after this, everything they showed looked current gen and didnt generate any hype, just destroyed the little hype there was.

 

[Kerotan]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 and The Medium saved this from being a total embarrassment.

But but Phil is feeling so confident about the showing after seeing the ps5 show. Think you need a new avatar!

 

[YodaBB]

Fable could be a puzzle game for all we know

 

[Mister Wolf]

Stalker 2 is a big get. is this new PSO2 expansion basically PSO3.

 

[Lux R7]

Fable will be a day one game for me when it drops in the future

 

[Mercenary09]

That was a horrible show. Almost all CG trailers and Halo looks far from a next gen game. I'd be concerned about Microsoft's 2021 lineup because games like Fable, Everwild, Hellblade 2, State of Decay 3 and more are all years off.

 

[GeorgPrime]

- 10 Launch Exclusive
- 22 Console Launch Exclusives

Out of the 10 excluives titles iam only interested in State of Decay 3 but they have to prove that they did it better than State of Decay 2
Out of the 22 console launch exclusives.... there are like 3 games i would like to play.... but they will appear on PS 5 too.


Nothing to make me buy a Xbox. They didnt even proof that they can do better than PS 5

 

[Kev Kev]

lol ok you guys are losing your shit over nothing. everything looked fine in both shows. im out

 

[Invalid GR]

PS5 presentation was mediocre but this was a letdown.
PC+PS5 is the way to go it seems.
Also ray tracing seems to be MIA for both next gen consoles..

 

[MightySquirrel]

Pretty good showing 8/10

Sony 5/10

 

[TheMan]

You know overall id say it was ok. I think the problem is that I'm older, more jaded, and I've played so many fucking games that it's hard to be impressed by this stuff. I mean I'm sure I'd have fun playing the majority of these titles (and they're all coming to gamepass so yeah I'll probably play most of them), but I feel like I keep chasing that wow factor that I haven't felt since I was a kid. I guess I'm an addict?

 

[LarknThe4th]

I think Microsoft are probably never going to go all in on big studio productions to the extent of Sony I really thought they where moving in that direction in concert with cornering the new "subscription model" that they have pioneered, would have been a devastating combination

But as a value proposition an Xbox with Gamepass is as good an offer that you will find in he biz

I still feel they could be more aggressive 1st party wise, feel they're being a bit too safe in that area

 

[Aggressive Carrot]

Banjo Kazooie, Conker, Perfect Dark - One day

I hope all you Dorito eating Mountain Dew drinkers enjoyed your snacks more than the show.

I enjoyed my ice cold coffee.

 

[supernova8]

I mean I stayed up until 1am and even sat through the Geoff Keighley borefest.

The Playstation reveal was medicore but that was fucking SHIT.

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

These were the only games that interested me but I would not buy a new console for these games

CrossfireX
Medium
Hello neighbor 2
Halo

 

[Gamernyc78]

I give this show 6 teraflops out of 12.

Your too generous, I give it 4tf locking my heart to Sony

 

[Jokerevo]

Yes you can play all of this on GamePass. Deal with it.

Precisely and that's what I'm gonna do....on PC...no need to rush out becauseh There is nothing here leveraging the power of the XsX which is what I came to see. NOTHING.

And we all know Forza is running on PC otherwise they would have declared it as XsX.

The reality is it seems these studios really are going to be restrained by lockhart. Can you believe how current gen this showcase looked? Some of it looked pregen lol!

 

[Nvzman]

How could anyone even say this was on par with Sony's conference? I'm no PS fanboy and I don't even think their conference was anything fantastic, but this conference was straight garbage. After a (personally disappointing) Halo gameplay reveal, it was literally nothing but bland CG trailers or uninspired indie games for like 30-40 minutes straight with the obligatory forza. Stalker 2 and Psychonauts 2 were the only vaguely intriguing games, and one of them isnt even an exclusive. Sony at least had several of its big first party games represented (Horzion, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet, Gran Turismo), with full gameplay reveals for most of them. This was so much worse it hurts.

Also yeah, as other people have noted, this really does put the whole 12TF being such a massive selling point to the bed. There wasnt a single graphically impressive looking exclusive they showed off minus forza.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Alright I am now officially PISSED at MS and Sony. It’s time to announce a price and get release dates and preorders ready.

Was it a good show? Yes. But was it a statement? Not even close. It was a double that they hyped up to be a grand slam.
I blame Kagey K

 

[Represent.]

NO Hellblade 2 man.. A 20 second Fable teaser to close the show. Halo Infinite looking significantly worse than TLOU 2. Im pissed.

I wanted this to be great

 

[Boaty McBoatface]

shocking. somehow worse than the ps5 event. woke shite and low tier gamepass stuff.

I love gamepass, but I'm starting to wonder if it's having a negative effect on game creation. That would've been negated if they actually shows some AAA shit.

 

[Three]

Of everything shown on either console so far, that was the most CG. More unbelievable than HB2. The foliage detail, and hair detail, not to mention reflection on the water all screamed CG to me. I would like to be wrong though.

When their flagship game Halo 'new slipspace' engine looks like that you can bet your ass that was prerendered CG for fable.

 

[Spukc]

well besides WOKETRIS i really liked it!

 

[Humdinger]

Positives:
- Everwild looked interesting, though a bit soft/touchy feely, and no idea what the gameplay is like
- new Obsidian RPG, though I'm sure that's at least 3 years away
- Fable teaser at the end -- good to see the art style and humor are there -- though just a brief teaser, and it appears the game is still in early stages, so it's several years away, hard to get excited at this point


Negatives:
- Very little gameplay, just lots of trailers without gameplay, lots of teasers with little idea of actual game
- Too much time spent with PR people yapping; I don't care
- Nothing that would make me want to buy an XSX at this point
- Lots of grim, dark, heavy stuff

I'd give it a C-, the PS showcase a C. Both were pretty underwhelming.

 

[Dory16]

Their games are not far along in development to be shown in gameplay. Halo, Forza, Fable, The Medium, Avowed stole the show.
Those studios will need more time.

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

Yeah... I actually thought I'd buy both consoles.

Well... Not anymore.

same

 

[Crimson_Fate]

I was really hoping for a great showing but they need to show gameplay , all this showcase did was to increase the launch price of the PS5

 

[DeepEnigma]

Same but with PS5 too

That is exactly what I am doing. PS5 for select Sony games, new gaming rig for everything else.

 

[JORMBO]

Not sure why I let myself get hyped up for these things. That was really disappointing.

 

[Kagey K]

Alright I am now officially PISSED at MS and Sony. It’s time to announce a price and get release dates and preorders ready.

Was it a good show? Yes. But was it a statement? Not even close. It was a double that they hyped up to be a grand slam.
I blame Kagey K

Always my fault.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

To think this was Microsofts second big showing, i wonder what they're thinking? I keep hoping they're holding the big hitters back but they showed Forza, Halo and Fable so....

I've got an X, that looks like it still has plenty of life left in it. No need to pick up an XSX

 

[longdi]

not a single game that show off next gen powers.
the medium is this flash game

Two Centuries by ilbini, rubinoffsama

Control a little robot and a girl that have lost their memories trough a beautifully designed puzzle adventure game

ilbini.itch.io

gotta wait until 2021 before the power of Series X can flex

 

[Kuranghi]

Holy crud that was disappointing, like 4/30 games were interesting to me

Halo Infinite looks like Rage 2 or Far Cry. The physics on the warthog were way off. I was excited after the metroidvania leak but I dunno about that now, the gunplay/gameplay was laughable at times. Halo 1-3 look better than that! The needed to show WAY more scale than that. It looked so localised, in that small area, felt like a PS3 game in scale/scope.

Need to see a LOT more, if its BotW-Halo then I can handle a slight dumbing down but only if it has stellar exploration/systems interations.

 

[Ash Sparrow]

Seriously impressed graphically
MS puts on a gameshow like business people. which isnt good.I just want to see games not people talking
Happy that the games will all be on Gamepass
If you're already an Xbox owner you should be happy going foward
Does it move the pendulum for getting others into the Xbox eco system. I dont know.
Halo looks like Halo

 

[Orky]

BTW as always Aaron Greenberg and Phil let down with there "oh after Sony's presentation we feel good about the games we are going to show" really?

yeah really, way better games shown, no bugsnax and no furry lol and no ps3/360 game

 

[bosnianpie]

What have they done to counter the next The Last of Us? God of War? Spider-Man? Ghost of Tsushima? Horizon?

Nothing.

 

[kriolo]

Is there any big incentive to buy the new console?NO.Is there any big one to stay on game PASS.Hell yes! I think im staying with my one x and buy a ps5.2 years later buy XSX.

 

[Mista]

That is exactly what I am doing. PS5 for select Sony games, new gaming rig for everything else.

Thats the right way. Welcome to the race

 

[TheMan]

Serious question- if I'm going to buy a new beast PC this fall, is there any reason to get a series x?

 

[Jadsey]

Fuck me...that was terrible.

 

[TheGrat1]

Ladies & Gentlemen The Medium just killed that secret sauce SSD fantasy.

With what? Corridor gameplay? It is not even swapping out entire levels like was previously speculated but running 2 texture sets simultaneously and palette-swapping them. :S

Rift/Apart>>>The Medium