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All Cyberpunk 2077 leaks/spoilers in here and nowhere else.
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VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
So an early demo build just leaked that you can play in your browser via the cloud. It's code named Balenciaga. Get it while it's hot. The character models are incredible. Really great sense of scale and some crazy car physics as well. Did not see the twist coming at the end.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Anyone have any 1080p streams or videos? Seems like every video is 480p???
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Hugare
Member
eyesabitdull
Banned
EDMIX
Member
1. doesn't matter, they support MTX. Period. The comment was about being "pro-consumer" vs anti-consumer. You listed things you felt the developer did that warranted it to be pro, I listed things that very much question that notion.
2. Irrelevant. They are comparable. One's free quest is another gamers free map. Regardless, Witcher 3 does not give you 100% of its quest for free, you need to buy the rest, that can't be stated about Battlefront II or Battlefield V or Titanfall 2. Your personal view on it is irrelevant, they don't need to be the same games or the same genre or anything like that, simply put that games offer free content more significantly yet the publisher is not deemed "pro-consumer".
3.Thats incorrect. Cyberpunk's pre-order started 2018. Why even comment if you don't even look up this information? I mean...I'm literally staring at my pre-order on Amazon and it states 2018
Cyberpunk 2077 now available for preorder at Amazon
Cyberpunk 2077 is still a ways off from release, but you can go ahead and get your preorders in now.
www.windowscentral.com
You don't want a real discussion about this, you simply want to emotionally be validated regarding your like for the publisher. If the things they do, we can see EA and other publishers do that clearly are not regarded as pro-consumer, it means they are not as pro-consumer as you'd like to think. Unless you want to suggest EA is just as or something.
So I don't hate the developer, but factually reasons exist to question them. I even pointed out several times about maybe not 100% trusting this developer before those delays and removed features etc. Its not because Witcher 3 was downgraded.
Its because how the developer omitted the information. It told me they need the game to sell and will hold off telling consumers to move units. My issue was never the downgrade, that happens in game development, but knowingly omitting such information to gain sales is extremely questionable and I believe should concern anyone hype for their games.
Think about it like ths, its like Fable. Just cause Peter Molyneux stated lots of crazy shit about Fable, doesn't mean anyone taking his comments about the next Fable with a grain of salt is a "hater", on the contrary, they know enough about the developer from being a fan as to not trust 100% lots of what they say from past experiences.
Cyberpunk 2077 is a day 1 for me, that doesn't mean I forgot about them lying about Witcher 3, it simply means my expectations are realistic. You can like CDPR and still be honest about the history of this behavior.
In terms of the downgrade maybe, but their issue with saying one thing and doing another and putting out some confession, admission, reversal is still very much going on.
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eyesabitdull
Banned
Dude, I goddamn wish he comes back for Cyberpunk 2077.
Hes been gone for a year now :/
Balducci30
Member
I have never been as disappointed in a game as halo 2. I mean Jesus - the fake E3 gameplay - all the initial trailers looking absolutely nothing like the final game. The game itself being worse than Halo CE campaign wise and not a lot of open spaces. Man that was brutal.
This game - I have my expectations in check. I don’t foresee myself not loving this - don’t really care about random jankiness, don’t really care about graphics being next level, I’m in it for the setting - the Witcher 3 was great but had its own flaws. I expect this to be similar in a lot of ways.
EDMIX
Member
I want to see more to see what is going on with the low crowd size. Running on PS4 or XONE doesn't even answer why those crowds are so low as Hitman very much exist on those systems with massive crowds.
Saint Boot
Banned
I am not going to wait, but I imagine the eventual goty edition with any and all free and paid dlc with updates and patches on disk that comes out on ps4 pro and Xbox will be really awesome. Definitely going to double dip.
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Balducci30
Member
Yeah... maybe I’m not “hardcore” enough but is it weird that I prefer games to NOT be like 150 hours? Totally fine with 10-20 hours. How am I supposed to play 150 hours of a video game, unless that was my profession. Don’t get me wrong I’m gonna play the game a lot but once you’re over a certain point in hour count... never a big selling point for me. I want to be entertained not make sure it fills my time for the foreseeable future. I got shit to do
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
Is the twist Rick Astley (didn't click the link)
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Balducci30
Member
No it’s far weirder
MiguelItUp
Member
I feel like some of y'all really don't want some people to be excited about it, Jesus, lmao.
saintjules
Member
There may seem to be an uncapped framerate based on the leaked footage. So I'd assume performance option to be present. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Kadayi
Banned
Ignore EDMIX, that dudes been stroking a hate boner for CDP since they first announced the game. He posts piss and vinegar about it in just about every thread.
Balducci30
Member
It should’ve been even less than that (LOU2) as it stands I have no desire to replay it. I tried because I loved the gameplay itself - but you start to notice how little of that actually makes up the game second time around.
Maddux4164
Member
Uninterrupted 3 hour PS5 stream
LectureMaster
Member
1. doesn't matter, they support MTX. Period. The comment was about being "pro-consumer" vs anti-consumer. You listed things you felt the developer did that warranted it to be pro, I listed things that very much question that notion.
2. Irrelevant. They are comparable. One's free quest is another gamers free map. Regardless, Witcher 3 does not give you 100% of its quest for free, you need to buy the rest, that can't be stated about Battlefront II or Battlefield V or Titanfall 2. Your personal view on it is irrelevant, they don't need to be the same games or the same genre or anything like that, simply put that games offer free content more significantly yet the publisher is not deemed "pro-consumer".
3.Thats incorrect. Cyberpunk's pre-order started 2018. Why even comment if you don't even look up this information? I mean...I'm literally staring at my pre-order on Amazon and it states 2018
Cyberpunk 2077 now available for preorder at Amazon
Cyberpunk 2077 is still a ways off from release, but you can go ahead and get your preorders in now.
You don't want a real discussion about this, you simply want to emotionally be validated regarding your like for the publisher. If the things they do, we can see EA and other publishers do that clearly are not regarded as pro-consumer, it means they are not as pro-consumer as you'd like to think. Unless you want to suggest EA is just as or something.
So I don't hate the developer, but factually reasons exist to question them. I even pointed out several times about maybe not 100% trusting this developer before those delays and removed features etc. Its not because Witcher 3 was downgraded.
Its because how the developer omitted the information. It told me they need the game to sell and will hold off telling consumers to move units. My issue was never the downgrade, that happens in game development, but knowingly omitting such information to gain sales is extremely questionable and I believe should concern anyone hype for their games.
Think about it like ths, its like Fable. Just cause Peter Molyneux stated lots of crazy shit about Fable, doesn't mean anyone taking his comments about the next Fable with a grain of salt is a "hater", on the contrary, they know enough about the developer from being a fan as to not trust 100% lots of what they say from past experiences.
Cyberpunk 2077 is a day 1 for me, that doesn't mean I forgot about them lying about Witcher 3, it simply means my expectations are realistic. You can like CDPR and still be honest about the history of this behavior.
In terms of the downgrade maybe, but their issue with saying one thing and doing another and putting out some confession, admission, reversal is still very much going on.
1.Come on man, I really I said no MTX in Cyberpunk 2077 is pro-consumer and you must alter the narrative to "they supporting MTX so they are not". Please, enlighten me again, by this stand which developers don't support MTX and hence "pro-consumer" in your book? Multiplayer games intrinsically pro-MTX because of the constant post launch content update and MTX doesn't mean they are anti-consumer, we have examples Warframe and Path of Exile. I asked to give me your supported instance you just kept dodging.
2. You forced to compare apple to orange and accusing me of not wanting a real discussion? And it's so ridiculous saying that not 100% witcher quests are free. Do you get Battlefield, battlefront or titanfall for free? Are those employees just robots not needing their salary for living? This is common sense, how come it became my personal perspective?
3. I did look for the pre-order info because I did it on PSN. But we don't need argue on those pointless stuff.
https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/media/news/cyberpunk-2077-release-date-pre-orders-new-trailer/
You keep saying developer is disingenuous for omitting info to gain sale, you have proof? How many player returned their copies due to this? Witcher 3 was their first huge release and they could've just fumbled on this downgrade matter due to being inexperience to PR. Did they keep fucking up on the expansions, on gwent? and very soon we will see how it turns for 2077. Why you have to make such big accuse before it actually happens?
I am all on board for rational discussion but I fee like would be endless back and forth because you simply don't admit the facts I listed and keep altering the goalpost. We can end here for good. Anyway hope we all can enjoy this game.
LectureMaster
Member
Thanks man, been discussing for several rounds, you are right I should end this for good.
vpance
Member
Caught bits of that long stream. The game looks good, that is unquestionable. I love the lighting. Can't judge it from those low quality streams on OG consoles.
Did see a number of floating vehicle and NPC bugs though. Fix those and add more traffic on highways and it's all good I think.
Did see a number of floating vehicle and NPC bugs though. Fix those and add more traffic on highways and it's all good I think.
zkorejo
Member
I saw through it the first time and there were times I was internally screaming why was the game taking so long to tie up such a simple plot. It felt super bloated with more forced bad writing and atrocious characters with the same gameplay mechanics.
Balducci30
Member
Yep, like the second half of Ellie’s portion drags on so badly. I legitimately stopped caring about the convoluted storyline half way through because I was like - ok she wants revenge I get it can we move on. Pacing was just seriously off for that game.
EDIT: the story itself also was trying so hard and like you could practically hear them in the writers room like “hey this should happen’ then this” it was so transparent in how it moved forward. I do think the gameplay was ultimately better than the first though - it was like the reverse situation of the first game, where the story was great but the gameplay wasn’t like next level - this the story kinda sucked but the gameplay was great.
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Kadayi
Banned
No worries. He's a lost cause. He's spent so long rubbishing CDP and the game that he's just here to convince himself that he's right. You'll find quite a few people in this thread expressing 'concern' are similarly of the same mindset.
Hugare
Member
I've just started watching it and damn man, lighting looks amazing
Some places gives me that Mirrors Edge where it looks almost lifelike but at the same time a bit stylized.
Crazy to think that this will run on base consoles. Less FPS and resolution, of course, but the rest will remain unchanged.
Anxious to watch Digital Foundry video about it
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Maddux4164
Member
Yeah. Looks great! The guy playing looks like it’s his first time ever playing. But that’s ok
EDMIX
Member
1. I'm sure it is, but the comments you made IN GENERAL are about the DEVELOPER being pro-consumer.
Read your post.
So its fair game. We should we not bring up the fact that they now support MTX aka anti consumer, cause its in another title, yet we can bring up their past with Witcher 3 as an example of pro-consumer?
All is fair here.
If you can say something they did in the past with any title makes you trust them as pro-consumer, it should be allowed to be brought up many things done in the past and present that counter that. They made statements against MTX, they have walked them back and are in support of them. My issue isn't with MTX for the 100th time, its with the developer having a history of being very hypocritical.
2.
Not really, that is factually the truth. You need the expansions to play every last quest sir. Those are paid for. You need to deal with those facts instead of only wanting shit omitted that hurt your narrative.
??? Not sure where you got that notion from bud. We are talking about post launch content, never said anything about getting those titles 100% for free, simply their post launch content in terms of maps. Shit, did you get Witcher 3 for free? It sounds weird, like you are trying to argue about something that was never suggested. If its about post launch content, keep the discussion about that vs goal post moving.
3. agreed.
yup.
https://www.gamepur.com/news/cdpr-n...ptimizing-to-get-best-performance-as-possible
yet
CD Projekt tackles The Witcher 3 downgrade issue head on
While open world role-playing game The Witcher 3 has been met with critical acclaim, including receiving an Essential a…
www.eurogamer.net
So you simply can't tell me they don't know the state of their own title. So can we expect another article telling us what is wrong or missing from Cyberpunk 2077 on December 11th? Its not saying anything is wrong with a downgrade, its questioning why they are omitting this until the day after they took folks money. That is what told me they'd do stuff like this to maintain sales.
I believe its within reason they'd limit review copies and other information for sales for Cyberpunk 2077 as clearly they've done so before.
Irrelevant. The point is simply that they've done this in the past. Its not about the downgrade, its about the choice they made to not tell consumers this until after the game was sold. As....what else are they going to wait to tell us after Cyberpunk 2077 is sold?
I'm sorry but its a valid criticism. You can't really tell me they don't know the state of their own game before release.
Not accusing them of anything as much as its speculation. it would be like saying why should you assume EA would sneak in loot boxes in a game after they made some statement not to, because they did so in the past. Its fair speculation thats valid based on their factual actions.
Not really. I'd argue I've keep the majority of this based on what publishers have factually done vs what I personally feel about them. They factually stated no downgraded would happen, they factually admitted one did... They factually gave out SOME free DLC with Witcher 3, 100% of their DLC was not free as a paid expansion exist. They factually had negative views towards MTX, they factually now support MTX and will be putting them in the MP version of this title... Most of what is brought up is factually what occurred, not how I feel about the DLC or how I feel about the downgrade etc. For the record, I was bummed it was downgraded, but I still generally enjoyed a lot of the game, my issue isn't that sir, its the behavior of the publisher to withhold this information until after the game came out.
So its a day 1 regardless, simply that I'm treating them like peter molyneux lol Doesn't mean I hate the game or the team, but I need to be honest with what I see from this developer even if I'm hype for the game. I separate that as I feel many times people can ignore objective information based on how much they might like a developer.
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LarknThe4th
Member
Seriously what happened to that guy, just disappeared!
DeadMansParty
Member
can't wait to see the PC version!!
EDMIX
Member
Facts. Isn't that the person that did all those before and after videos about Ubisoft games?
DeadMansParty
Same. Might double dip. Can't get my hands on a 3090 or 3080 rtx so its PS4 Pro for now. (I might end up playing it on PS5 for a few runs before I make a new build). Hopefully it will support mods by then.
zkorejo
Thats good to know, the majority of my time with it will likely be on the PS4 Pro.
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zkorejo
Member
I'm new to pc gaming and this is my first steam purchase. Idk who to ask this but I have been wondering if on pc my game will look like ps4 version or better?
My specs: ryzen 3700x, gtx 1660 super, 32 gb ram. I will be gaming on 1080p.
EDMIX
I don't have the game I was judging that based on the random glimpses of the 3 hour stream shared above.
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EDMIX
Member
I'm new to pc gaming and this is my first steam purchase. Idk who to ask this but I have been wondering if on pc my game will look like ps4 version or better?
My specs: ryzen 3700x, gtx 1660 super, 32 gb ram. I will be gaming on 1080p.
Based on what you listed, it will be better then base PS4 easily. Plus you could always upgrade your GPU to have it meet or beat PS5, Series X etc.
Cyberpunk 2077 System Requirements — Cyberpunk 2077 | Technical Support — CD PROJEKT RED
Welcome to CD PROJEKT RED Technical Support! Here you will find help regarding our games and services, as well as answers to frequently asked questions.
support.cdprojektred.com
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zkorejo
Member
Thanks for the answer!. Yes I plan on upgrading to 3070 but it's overpriced in my country rn due to high demand low supply.
TheKillerStove
Banned
You're gonna want to look into that story a bit more. There's more to it than the sensationalized headlines looking to bank off a "Gotcha!" would have you believe. Cyberpunk 2077 isn't getting microtransactions, the upcoming multiplayer project set in the Night City of Cyberpunk 2077 is. Its a totally separate stand alone product that happens to share a setting and isn't planned to drop until at least 2022.Yet you could argue the same thing about many publishers that many don't count as "pro-consumer". EA has several games where they have free dlc for the entire game and very much do not get counted in that "pro-consumer" ideology. Talk to me when 100% of Cyberpunk 2077's DLC is free and not simply "some" of it.
Also they will feature MTX
Cyberpunk 2077 will have Microtransactions but only in Multiplayer
Oh boy, we now have direct confirmation straight from the developer's mouth that the highly anticipated action-RPG Cyberpunk 2077 will indeed feature microtransactions. Everybody's favorite in-game monetization will thankfully only be present in the game's multiplayer mode, however.www.gamezone.com
So at the end of the day, they still fucking LIED to consumers about that downgrade and conveniently remembered after they took fans money.
I would never put it past them to limit those reviews to minimize the comments about the issues with the game to keep game sales strong and consumers in the dark about those issues.
EA fucking giving FREE DLC for 100% of the life of a title didn't suddenly turn them into saints.
Keep that same energy.
With that out of the way, the reason it's being monetized that way is because soley online games require massive continuing investment to keep live. It's why 75% of MMOs have subscriptions, and why the ones that don't go heavier on microtransactions to compensate. Honestly, I'd rather pay a sub than have to deal with microtransactions, but the console market as a whole isn't used to that idea. Sure you have examples like FF XIV and DC Universe Online with subscriptions on console, but they dont see near the same level of support games like Destiny and GTA Online get from the console market. So it only makes sense for CDPR to follow that monetization scheme. Choosing otherwise runs the risk of alienating the non-PC market.
Gediminas
Banned
what do you think, will this game live up to it's hype?
EDMIX
Member
Ok but I never debated that. Simply questioning the hypocrisy of the developer.
I agree, but again I never questioned why as much as I'm question the past comments of the developer regarding MTX. It makes complete sense why it'd be added, but the question still remains, why wasn't this statement made about MTX back then?
The way you stated it is perfect as it makes sense why such a model is used, but that could have easily been CDPR's response regarding MTX....
vs
CD Projekt RED further condemns concept of microtransactions
Cyberpunk’d CD Projekt RED, the team behind The Witcher series as well as the upcoming Cyberpunk 2077, has double-downed on...
www.destructoid.com
I have nothing against a reversal or 180 or a developer changing their minds or admitting a mistake or changing something, simply that its happened enough times for me to assume it will happen again regarding Cyberpunk 2077.
The criticism is valid.
Gamezone
Gold Member
How many hours until the review?
EDMIX
Member
I think they are all right.
It likely just comes down to playstyle. I'm at 85 hours in Ghost Of Tsushima, a game many of my friends completed in 50 hours. So I think it something that can take 11 hours to beat for some, 22 hours to beat for some, 50 hours to beat for some, 100 hours to beat for others.
They could have just did the main quest and no side quest for 11 hours, main quest and some side quest for 22 hours etc. It varies.
So i guess then digital lets say pc version will allready be with patch no need to download it after. At least other games worked that way. But then main game 70gb and patch plus 50gb? Or it wont add just change files to new ones.
P.s. someone said his x1x digital preload started to download allready for 60gb. Looks like preloads will start soon for most
P.s. someone said his x1x digital preload started to download allready for 60gb. Looks like preloads will start soon for most
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Regis
Member
I know Panam was a real company, but i mean the product placement itself, its one of the most remembered things about Blade Runner, how Panam and Atari went to hell not much after the movie came out.So Panam AKA "Best girl" is named after this, what a nice Easter egg
Night.Ninja
Banned
3 hour PS5 stream
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