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Our desire is to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation - Phil Spencer

FrankWza

Member
There's not even a new COD that's been announced yet, and an exclusive COD won't be here for another 2 - 3 years. The people you're talking about will be staying on current-gen for a while still
Or they’ll find a new game to play or just keep playing MW22 on PS and take that iw game and run.
He sure is but look at what he actually said in his post.
It's uncalled for.
in all fairness, even though he doesn’t really deserve it, I think he meant it would be useless to them if they only play one game like CoD. I’ve seen about 150 more bannable posts this week. A lot by him too :)
 
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Arioco

Member
-"I'm a generous God"

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abcdrstuv

Banned
Lol. He specifically says 'our desire' That is code for 'Yes, Sony will get Call of Duty on Playstation as long as they let us put Gamepass on there."

And keeping Warzone on Playstation would also satisfy that statement. Show me a statement where he says "new iterations in the CoD franchise will come to PS5 available for purchase without needing gamepass" and that will be a real statement.
Is that really in their interest? I'd rather have a Playstation in that case
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
There's not even a new COD that's been announced yet, and an exclusive COD won't be here for another 2 - 3 years. The people you're talking about will be staying on last gen for a while still
2023 COD could be exclusive to Xbox if the sale goes through as expected. Sony only have a marketing rights agreement, for all we know it has clauses in it for sale of the franchise etc. We don’t know, and we won’t find out until the sale is approved and completed. Just because a game was going to release on a console doesn’t mean that it contractually has to release on it. Again, Starfield is the latest example. We know Sony were trying to buy timed exclusivity, but now they’re not even getting the game even though the development was well underway of that version.

What I’m saying is that a sale of the company changes everything. Once that happens everything is up in the air. We just have to wait and see. Going by the entire history of the gaming industry, and the recent Bethesda acquisition, anything not secured in a timed exclusivity contract by Sony will not release on PlayStation.

Marketing rights deals are not the same as timed exclusivity, so we don’t really have any precedent here that I can remember. Maybe someone else knows of a situation like this that has happened before?

I doubt tens of millions of PS5 owners will jump ship to Xbox as soon as cod goes exclusive, but they’re not the people Microsoft are going for - they’ll be gunning for the 150 million people that will buy a console after that day, and having cod exclusivity gives them a huge leg up.
 
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S0ULZB0URNE

Member
If they are banning for that then the forum will just end up with Modofwar and Evilore talking between themselves.

Raise you flame shield buddy, life's gonna be tough if your so easily upset.
Lol, just because your hurt by how some people may react does not mean its bannable lol
Theres nothing wrong with that post.

For some hardcore COD ps4 players some absolutely will be influenced to get an xbox series over a PS5 because of this aquisition.
Lognor Lognor said... "Why would they blow $500 on a console that will be useless in a few years?"

If you can't see the issue with the above, then you are part of the issue.
 

clarky

Gold Member
Lognor Lognor said... "Why would they blow $500 on a console that will be useless in a few years?"

If you can't see the issue with the above, then you are part of the issue.
He's talking about COD players who only play COD , And even if he wasn't who gives a fuck?

You feelings are hurt because he's calling your console useless? Jesus must have been a tough week.


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S0ULZB0URNE

Member
He's talking about COD players who only play COD , And even if he wasn't who gives a fuck?

You feelings are hurt because he's calling your console useless? Jesus must have been a tough week.


REE is that way ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
What a dedication you have!
 
There has to be a catch. You mean to tell Microsoft spent nearly 70 billion dollars to keep the very franchise on the competition that will probably give the XBOX platform a significant advantage in the West? They will fulfill current contractual obligations, but I don’t think they will make COD multiplatform in the future after that, at least the mainline COD games.

Putting the mainline COD on PlayStation imho wouldn’t make sense. I’m assuming Warzone could be what he was referring to. Sure, Microsoft would be getting more money, but wasn’t one of the reasons and advantages of getting COD exclusive is to try to get more people on the XBOX ecosystem?
 

S0ULZB0URNE

Member
Oh the delicious irony lol.

If someone only plays COD, COD going exclusive to Xbox will make a PlayStation useless to them. That’s just a fact. There’s nothing sinister about it, and definitely not something ban worthy.
Look I have a stalker! I should post a screen shot of all the reactions I got from you this day alone.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
There has to be a catch. You mean to tell Microsoft spent nearly 70 billion dollars to keep the very franchise on the competition that will probably give the XBOX platform a significant advantage in the West? They will fulfill current contractual obligations, but I don’t think they will make COD multiplatform in the future after that, at least the mainline COD games.

Putting the mainline COD on PlayStation imho wouldn’t make sense. I’m assuming Warzone could be what he was referring to. Sure, Microsoft would be getting more money, but wasn’t one of the reasons and advantages of getting COD exclusive is to try to get more people on the XBOX ecosystem?
Exactly. You can’t “keep” a game on a console if that game doesn’t exist. You can keep existing games there. We did this same song and dance with Bethesda games.

“They won’t leave that money on the table!”

“They’ll keep existing franchises on PlayStation!”

“Starfield is coming to PlayStation too, you’ll see!”

Surely after Sony saw the money that they’ve left on the PC table and Xbox table all these years with their recent ventures into PC they’ll start releasing all their first party games on Xbox and PC day one. That’s how it works isn’t it? It’s all about the 70% revenue cut!
 

clarky

Gold Member
Even if they do, $60+ dollar CoD for PlayStation vs day one Gamepass on Xbox is a nice incentive to bring people over.
They didn't pay 70 billion sausages to get COD on gamepass and a few PC centric franchises xbox exclusive.

And lets face it, 50% or more of Activision's back catalogue is dead for a reason, its fucking shit.
 
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MrFunSocks

Banned
Look I have a stalker! I should post a screen shot of all the reactions I got from you this day alone.
Stalker? I’m sorry, is replying to posts in a thread that I’m active in now “stalking”? False accusations are damaging, quoting for mods to see!

The reactions are there to be used. Go for gold, what are people gonna do, go “oh how dare he use the site features as intended!”? Next thing you know I might insert a hyperlink! The mods will be in crisis mode!
 
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S0ULZB0URNE

Member
Stalker? I’m sorry, is replying to posts in a thread that I’m active in now “stalking”? False accusations are damaging, quoting for mods to see!
This is the first thread you replied to me today buddy.
But..You been reacting to my posts all day.

I quoted what he said.
It speaks for itself.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
Yeah that's the most sensible way to handle it and recoup some of that 70 billion.
There’s nothing to recoup lol. Do some reading on “investments”, “assets”, and “net worth”.

Here’s a crash course. I invest 500k in Microsoft shares. I have $500k left in my bank. What would you say my net worth is now? $500k or $1mil? Do I have to “recoup” that $500k that I just invested in shares?

Are you with me?
 

clarky

Gold Member
Yeah that's the most sensible way to handle it and recoup some of that 70 billion.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but i'll bite.

They don't need to recoup anything, the money hasn't gone anywhere, they just need the assets to give them an ROI and grow market share, anything is better than loosing 5% a year leaving cash in the bank.

If they bought 3 big mac's for everyone in the world then they'd need to recoup their money somehow.

Edit what he said.
 
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S0ULZB0URNE

Member
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but i'll bite.

They don't need to recoup anything, the money hasn't gone anywhere, they just need the assets to give them an ROI and grow market share, anything is better than loosing 5% a year leaving cash in the bank.

If they bought 3 big mac's for everyone in the world then they'd need to recoup their money somehow.

Edit what he said.
When/if the deal goes through...
They will have to recoup the 70 billion and PlayStation is the biggest market to do this.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
This is the first thread you replied to me today buddy.
But..You been reacting to my posts all day.

I quoted what he said.
It speaks for itself.
Wait so now I can only react to posts that I reply to? Sorry, can you please point me to these react rules, I must not have seen them :). Appreciate you looking out for the forums best interests mate!

Can we get back to the topic at hand now?
 

Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
When/if the deal goes through...
They will have to recoup the 70 billion and PlayStation is the biggest market to do this.
No! No..... Xbox is already multiplatform. Thats what happens when you think out of the box....literally. Lol.
 

Sosokrates

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Lognor Lognor said... "Why would they blow $500 on a console that will be useless in a few years?"

If you can't see the issue with the above, then you are part of the issue.

But its in the context of players who play cod the vast majority of there time.

In that context its completely valid.

You choose not to include the context and therefore misrepresenting what he said.
 

Shubh_C63

Member
As people had said already, if they can spend 70B then they can surely absorb the loss in sales (for a few years) by not putting COD-2024 on PS.

Even if they did, so many maps and stuff will be exclusive to GP/Xbox that 2024-entry demographic will shift to Xbox.
 

Sosokrates

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As people had said already, if they can spend 70B then they can surely absorb the loss in sales (for a few years) by not putting COD-2024 on PS.

Even if they did, so many maps and stuff will be exclusive to GP/Xbox that 2024-entry demographic will shift to Xbox.
I dont think Microsoft is to concerned with PlayStationd 100 odd million installbase. In the grand scheme of things its not that important to them.
 

Shubh_C63

Member
I dont think Microsoft is to concerned with PlayStationd 100 odd million installbase. In the grand scheme of things its not that important to them.
It is. every penny. If they can squeeze, they will squeeze, that's how corporations raise their margins.
Having "COD only available on Gamepass" is enough of a picture to justify their grand scheme of things.

Might not be 2024, but it will come.
 

Sosokrates

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It is. every penny. If they can squeeze, they will squeeze, that's how corporations raise their margins.
Having "COD only available on Gamepass" is enough of a picture to justify their grand scheme of things.

Might not be 2024, but it will come.
They are aiming to have 1 billion gamers when we think in those terms PlayStations 100 odd million is trival.
 

Shmunter

Member
Wonder if the yearly update cycle is as frustrating as it is for me and will be a factor. I’m still playing mw and occasionally Cold War skipped this years. Would much prefer an established community for a greater period than this constant dilution year on year.
 

Dlacy13g

Member
When/if the deal goes through...
They will have to recoup the 70 billion and PlayStation is the biggest market to do this.
**cough, cough...mobile...cough, cough**.... people forget King is part of this. I think King is actually a big part of why MS decided to move on this
 

Megatron

Member
Is that really in their interest? I'd rather have a Playstation in that case
The deal MS has in mind is in their interest. i doubt it’s the $10 month plan and giving Sony 30% of revenue. It’s probably $15+ and much less revenue going to Sony which of course Sony won’t ever allow, so it’s moot.
 

Sosokrates

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Wonder if the yearly update cycle is as frustrating as it is for me and will be a factor. I’m still playing mw and occasionally Cold War skipped this years. Would much prefer an established community for a greater period than this constant dilution year on year.

I think we will see COD release cycle extented in order to avoid overlap with other shooters like gears, Doom/quake/id arcane, machine games and halo
 

Shubh_C63

Member
They are aiming to have 1 billion gamers when we think in those terms PlayStations 100 odd million is trival.
I wrote something long but TLDR is,
100M is never trivial when they have the ability to grow. We don't know how META or VR is going to play. Why give them time when you can cut their base ?
1 user 70% Store revenue cut + Cut from mtx from others store is better on their store with say even half of a user.

Anyway, after spending 70B I say bring the hammer and let industry know Xbox+GP is the only place you need. No point in playing nice. And PR wise this is the opposite of Minecraft situation. Xbox is known to be home of shooters anyway from 360days.
 
Would laugh my ass off if cod did remain on PlayStation but only with gamepass…ms is technically not stopping them from having it

I also can’t imagine people paying for cod anymore if you get it free with gamepass
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
It is. every penny. If they can squeeze, they will squeeze, that's how corporations raise their margins.
Having "COD only available on Gamepass" is enough of a picture to justify their grand scheme of things.

Might not be 2024, but it will come.
How many sales did halo infinite do on PS5? Didn’t see it on NPD. Since it’s all about revenue, even at the expense of brand growth and market share, surely it released on the PS4 and PS5 and the Switch, right? Likewise I’ll be able to buy Gran Turismo 7 on Xbox, right?
 

Sosokrates

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I wrote something long but TLDR is,
100M is never trivial when they have the ability to grow. We don't know how META or VR is going to play. Why give them time when you can cut their base ?
1 user 70% Store revenue cut + Cut from mtx from others store is better on their store with say even half of a user.

Anyway, after spending 70B I say bring the hammer and let industry know Xbox+GP is the only place you need. No point in playing nice. And PR wise this is the opposite of Minecraft situation. Xbox is known to be home of shooters anyway from 360days.

Surely it would be better for Microsoft to grow there own installbase instead of somone elses.

Also I think the PS installbase will shrink because the PS5 has tougher competition.
 
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