Topher
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Why would impulse triggers burst his bubble when he is talking about haptics?
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Why would impulse triggers burst his bubble when he is talking about haptics?
mrmustard
Banned
Look at the Pro sales. It was just 100 Dollars or so more than the PS4 Slim with almost double the power and got outsold 4:1. Pro is mostly for enthusiasts and not the casuals that make the majority of the buyers.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Both features are made from the same company.
https://www.immersion.com/
You're saying that because PS5's implementation is the latest, none that have come before (and there have been many versions across many platforms) have any merit?
Kataploom
Gold Member
I learned to love AAA batteries, I use a pair when charging the other. To replicate that, is have to buy another controller
Varteras
Gold Member
WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?!
ChuckeRearmed
Member
FTC really hires lawyers from the streets as they don't even know how to check their stuff.
Phobos Base
Member
Oh that wonderful cloud gaming, which still takes forever to start and looks terrible despite having fibre internet. That's if you don't just get told there are too many people playing and try again later.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Do you even understand what haptics means? Any technology that attempts to simulate touch and motion would fall under this category. Impulse triggers clearly falls under this. Play one of the Xbox One Forza games and you can effectively feel the road surface on your fingertips.
yeah and they’re horrible and nowhere near what dualsense has.
dualsense pretty much set the new standard for rumble in controllers and is the reason for this “refresh”
but keep going with your damage control. it’s mildly entertaining
MirageMew2
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DenchDeckard
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To be honest, this is all I want Microsoft to do.
Forget the competition of doing a good third party box, just offer awesome games and services to bring people in. They have PC to offer the power option. Go wild with that...buy what you want.
I'm hoping they use this opportunity to tick tock Sony and leave every console manufacturer pushing great content to incentives their eco system.
I'll have my awesome pc and xbox for my spare rooms. Ps5 Pro for my Sony exclusives and Nintendo to be the wonder that it is.
Is this straight out of the PS3 playbook? start the come back with some decent games and some console refreshes. It does look sharp and adorable at the same time Haptics are the under rated feature this gen. Controller is still an xbox controller. They've failed at the roadmap for games though and are about to kill of physical sales even more.
Tommi84
Member
I'm sorry, WHAT?! xDDDD.
You compare rumble triggers to haptics and adaptive triggers?
It's like comparing steering wheel with rumble and steering wheel with Force Feedback. Guess which one shits on the other and is VASTLY superior.
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Salty Popsicle
Banned
What damage control? Every company in similar industries builds off the success of their competitors and learns from failures.
The haptic feedback on the dual sense was created by a 3rd party company that also worked on the HD rumble feature of the joycons.
Are you seriously going to implicate that every rumble feature in the future is derived from Sony?
Salty Popsicle
Banned
It's almost as if there was years of advancement and iterations between these two technologies. Fascinating.
You must think that all inventions are formed in a vacuum.
god where is the throw up emoji
GHG
Gold Member
"The unfortunate situation is that Nintendo are sitting on a big pile of cash"?
Is he for real?
Seriously fuck these guys.
Ginzeen
Banned
That deal will never happen. Just phil shooting the shit
three_muffins
Member
Sounds very good to me. Reduced power usage and discless. Time to get a xbox x
Salty Popsicle
Banned
The technology is not a gimmick, but if very little developers take advantage of the capability, it essentially becomes worthless.I thought haptics (rumble 2.0) were only a gimmick?
Hopefully Microsoft's game developers don't fall into that trap.
3liteDragon
Member
Like I said before, this company’s a fucking cancer to the industry.
Topher
Gold Member
You are trying to argue that Xbox already has haptics like DualSense? Really?
mansoor1980
Gold Member
microsoft will soon own nintendo with phil as CEO
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GHG
Gold Member
How about he spends his time actually doing his job then instead of "shooting the shit" and writing paragraphs fantasising about buying up (or bribing) the entire industry?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Please don't put words into my mouth that I never said.
PS5's implementation is superior and produces better results than Nintendo Switch's. One is rumble; the other is haptic feedback. Different techs. Just because one company made both technologies does not mean both are the exact same things.
Even the CEO of Immersion calls it brand-new.
You can read Immersion's report on both tech here:
Zuzu
Member
Perhaps a better argument I could make is that the PS5 Pro makes the Series X very unattractive assuming that it's similarly priced to the Series X. The Series X and the PS5 Pro will both be targeted at the enthusiast market but why would the majority of enthusiasts consider a Series X over a PS5 Pro? They won't be able to compete on power so they'll have to hope their 1st party and services are enough to win enthusiasts to them. But enthusiasts value power above everything most of the time. And Sony will probably continue to outclass Xbox wrt to 1st party at least for a few years. The PS5 Pro will be so much more attractive to enthusiasts and higher spending buyers than the Series X that I don't see how the Series X will compete very well in that market.
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MrTired
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It's not a mid-gen upgrade, it's just a revision of the Series X.
Your correct the Pro console is will get massively outsold again. The problem for Xbox is they might see those enthusiasts (High Spenders ) migrate over to Playstation if they don't provide there own mid-gen refresh.
According to the document the Series X refresh should have been announced at the same time as the Series S revision I wonder what caused them to change there minds.
DenchDeckard
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So if you bought a Series X and bought all you game physically, Microsoft is like...
Looks like your standard series x will be the same?
A lot of people asked for this...I'm not sure why, but they did.
The 2tb is gonna stop them from dropping the price, which is what I think Microsoft needs to do more than anything.
If this was 349.99 or 399 they could be onto a winner.
Midn1ght
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Salty Popsicle
Banned
DualSense haptics feedback is currently the most advanced since Sony made it a priority for the PS5 controller. I simply said the technology has been present in various forms for many years, including a lesser version in the impulse triggers Xbox introduced back in 2013. Technology advanced, fancy that.
finally some great first party gamesmicrosoft soon to own nintendo with phil as CEO
what a visionary leader, a true gamer too
killatopak
Gold Member
I’ll happily take FO3 and Oblivion remasters.
3liteDragon
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mansoor1980
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Jibran#one
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If doom goes exclusive I go where doom goes
Doom eternal is my favourite game of all time
Doom eternal is my favourite game of all time
DenchDeckard
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People saying Microsoft copied Sony.. but Sony copied nintendo and valve?
How far does this rabbit hole go?
How far does this rabbit hole go?