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[Heisenberg007]

How about he spends his time actually doing his job then instead of "shooting the shit" and writing paragraphs fantasising about buying up (or bribing) the entire industry?

Phil Spencer thinking he can do a better job than Nintendo and advising on the future direction their business should take is the funniest thing I've read this week.

 

[Gojiira]

Where’s the email about Phil Spencer wanting to buy Valve AND Nintendo? Pretty huge they have the cash and ability and could absolutely do it.

The Valve one is more realistic than Nintendo.

Time to get Salty GPU friends.

Man once againI have to point out Japanese Law would make it IMPOSSIBLE for MS to buy Nintendo regardless of how wealthy they are. Nintendo is a protected company, Japan itself would deny the acquisition…

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Please don't put words into my mouth that I never said.

PS5's implementation is superior and produces better results than Nintendo Switch's. One is rumble; the other is haptic feedback. Different techs. Just because one company made both technologies does not mean both are the exact same things.

Even the CEO of Immersion calls it brand-new.

You can read Immersion's report on both tech here:

• https://www.immersion.com/news/imme...y-much-maxed-out-the-audio-visual-experience/
• https://www.immersion.com/zh/news/immersion-reveals-touchsense-force-better-touch-feedback-games/

I don't know what this proves. That technology released in 2020 is more advanced than technology released in 2017? All I stated is that haptic feedback in controllers has been around for a long time, Sony simply has the most up to date version of the tech.

 

[Balducci30]

No raytracing or improvements in the graphics capability? It’s just digital? Why - that’s not a mid gen console that’s just a digital model of an already released console

 

[DrFigs]

totally normal behavior that regulators shouldn't be concerned about.

 

[bitbydeath]

Is there any info that the normal Series X will stay?
how will current users buy physical games?

I think it will / has too.
If someone’s Series X dies then they’d lose access to their entire physical collection and then the lawsuits would come.

 

[skit_data]

"The unfortunate situation is that Nintendo are sitting on a big pile of cash"?

Is he for real?

Seriously fuck these guys.

Hah, just when I wrote "I don't think they are evil, they just come off that way in their internal communication" the other day.

 

[GHG]

Im sure gaming executives for other companies fantasize about buying out the competition

Pathetic response.

Sounds like you're fantasising about them fantasising in all honesty.

Quite the quandary, you should try coming back with us to discuss what we actually know and what's actually going on.

 

[THE DUCK]

I would really like adaptive triggers for xbox, it's not a "game changer" but it's a nice addition to some games. (Some games it doesn't matter at all)

 

[3liteDragon]

Looks like they have former board of directors acquiring shares in Nintendo, email’s from 2020.

 

[Topher]

DualSense haptics feedback is currently the most advanced since Sony made it a priority for the PS5 controller. I simply said the technology has been present in various forms for many years, including a lesser version in the impulse triggers Xbox introduced back in 2013. Technology advanced, fancy that.

No, you tried to pretend impulse triggers was the same thing.

Sorry to burst your bubble...
https://www.gamesradar.com/whats-next-why-you-should-give-damn-about-xbox-ones-impulse-triggers/

This is from 10 years ago by the way.

 

[Bernoulli]

I think it will / has too.
If someone’s Series X dies then they’d lose access to their entire physical collection and then the lawsuits would come.

But a refresh usually replaces the normal console

 

[DrFigs]

bro really used an x link
edit: well you already edited it anyway

 

[Robb]

Wow totally missed the games lineup. Very happy to see Dishonored 3 in there!

 

[bitbydeath]

But a refresh usually replaces the normal console

Well, I guess they could go the external drive route as another option. But I can’t see it dropped altogether.

 

[Heisenberg007]

So their entire gen forecast/ambition/goal is less than 59 million? Some were suggesting that they'd hit 90 million this generation.

Also, to sell 29M from 2024 to 2027, they will have to increase their yearly average to >9.7M consoles per year.

In the first 2 years (with 3 holiday seasons + a launch period), they averaged 9.2 million consoles, which has since decreased by -25% YoY to ~7M per year.

They are not hitting those numbers.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I don't know what this proves. That technology released in 2020 is more advanced than technology released in 2017? All I stated is that haptic feedback in controllers has been around for a long time, Sony simply has the most up to date version of the tech.

Rumble is different than haptic feedback.

 

[killatopak]

Some may laugh and point that Xbox copied Playstation.

I however am glad they did. You know what this means? More devs will actually make use of the feature since both consoles now use it. Just like analog sticks that were thought to be gimmicks in the past. This thing excites me.

 

[Salmon Snake]

I'm happy that MS is adding haptics and gyro, so hopefully a lot more developers will use them.

Quake 2 Remaster had gyro and it was great. I really miss that feature while playing Mass Effect LE.

 

[Godot25]

Holy shit!
New Doom, new Dishonored, Oblivion remaster!
Gimme

 

[Topher]

Some may laugh and point that Xbox copied Playstation.

I however am glad they did. You know what this means? More devs will actually make use of the feature since both consoles now use it. Just like analog sticks that were thought to be gimmicks in the past. This thing excites me.

They didn't copy PlayStation. Xbox has just been behind the times. Glad to see they are starting to catch up.

 

[Zuzu]

To be honest, this is all I want Microsoft to do.

Forget the competition of doing a good third party box, just offer awesome games and services to bring people in. They have PC to offer the power option. Go wild with that...buy what you want.

I'm hoping they use this opportunity to tick tock Sony and leave every console manufacturer pushing great content to incentives their eco system.

I'll have my awesome pc and xbox for my spare rooms. Ps5 Pro for my Sony exclusives and Nintendo to be the wonder that it is.

Yeah I can see the vision that Xbox is going for. Offer great services and diverse, high qualty first person games and offer Xbox's simply as entry level access points for these things. Maybe I'm too focussed on power and graphics quality. The mainstream don't care about this all that much in the end. They want convenience, great games and graphics that look 'good enough' which by and large the Series consoles can do. I guess MS just has to really keep building Gamepass up and offering great 1st party games and getting people in that ecosystem.

 

[Pimpbaa]

Kinda wish they had that controller to begin with this generation. Hopefully it’s compatible with current lipo battery packs.

 

[Chukhopops]

FY23E : Project Platinum

 

[Salty Popsicle]

No, you tried to pretend impulse triggers was the same thing.

I was replying to the bolded part below...

Can't wait to hear Xbox fans wax poetic about the haptics after years spent downplaying the features on the DualSense, should be fun! Anyway, if you guys possess nerve endings in your hands you'll finally understand what a huge difference good haptics add to the overall experience.

Implying "good" haptics was only invented and available once PS5 DualSense became a thing in 2020.

Various versions of immersive haptic feedback, including impulse triggers and HD Rumble have been available on various controllers. PS5 DualSense simply has the most complete package to date.

 

[tusharngf]

gamepass is all digital and it makes sense to put a digital only console. Remember guys they have done more for game preservation than anyone in the industry.

 

[DrFigs]

gamepass is all digital and it makes sense to put a digital only console. Remember guys they have done more for game preservation than anyone in the industry.

it just seems like at some point brick and mortar stores would just be shooting themselves in the foot carying this thing and not pushing for the consoles that support physical media. like if both the series s and series x were all digital, it would be a disaster for stores that make money off of game sales.

 

[SakkanartSilentJealousy]

And you need to wait 1 full year for just that?

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Rumble is different than haptic feedback.

The act of feeling a controller vibration is a haptic response by definition.

 

[Ginzeen]

Pathetic response.

Sounds like you're fantasising about them fantasising in all honesty.

Quite the quandary, you should try coming back with us to discuss what we actually know and what's actually going on.

no its not a pathetic response. You're just upset about nothing

 

[Salty Popsicle]

it just seems like at some point brick and mortar stores would just be shooting themselves in the foot carying this thing and not pushing for the consoles that support physical media.

You're assuming Sony's PS5 slim revision and PS5 Pro will have a disc drive.

 

[zeldaring]

People saying Microsoft copied Sony.. but Sony copied nintendo and valve?

How far does this rabbit hole go?

This is like saying Sony copied Nintendo by doing 2 analog sticks. They took a idea and took it to the next level.

 

[DrFigs]

You're assuming Sony's PS5 slim revision and PS5 Pro will have a disc drive.

i believe we've seen the ps5 redesign and it does

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Give me whatever that Doom Year Zero game is and the Oblivion remaster while I wait for Skyblivion.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

i believe we've seen the ps5 redesign and it does

I never took those screenshots to be real. At least they are not as substantiated as this Xbox leak seems to be. I guess we'll know soon enough.

 

[GHG]

no its not a pathetic response. You're just upset about nothing

Feel free to come back to me when you actually have some input regarding the post of mine that you originally quoted.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Fuck off with the digital-only Series X. I want to buy new & older games on disc, especially since more and more titles aren't available in the digital store anymore due to delistings.

 

[Topher]

I was replying to the bolded part below...

Implying "good" haptics was only invented and available once PS5 DualSense became a thing in 2020.

Various versions of immersive haptic feedback, including impulse triggers and HD Rumble have been available on various controllers. PS5 DualSense simply has the most complete package to date.

No, the implication was that the haptics of DualSense isn't in Xbox controllers and that is correct. Pointing to impulse triggers isn't a valid response.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Fallout 3 remaster?!

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

So if you bought a Series X and bought all you game physically, Microsoft is like...

You're not kidding. Despite strongly preferring physical media, I saw this coming a mile away and switched to digital on Xbox at the beginning of last gen.

 

[Banjo64]

What is Ellewood 1TB launching in August 2025? A Series S Slim?

Controller looks good.

The Series X is a typical Slim refresh, lower power draw, more efficient, smaller footprint. Personally I don’t like the cylinder shape and liked the blocky modular look.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

$499 for an all Digital Series X in late 2024 is ridiculous. Should be $399.99 tops. Yes, I realize it has 2TB of storage, but we are talking 4 yrs from original release.

 

[TrebleShot]

Man once againI have to point out Japanese Law would make it IMPOSSIBLE for MS to buy Nintendo regardless of how wealthy they are. Nintendo is a protected company, Japan itself would deny the acquisition…

We shall see, and Valve?

 

[NeonDelta]

I think it will / has too.
If someone’s Series X dies then they’d lose access to their entire physical collection and then the lawsuits would come.

One of the slides says it will be end of life just before the refresh launches.

Edit actually this might just be the Controller

 

[dotnotbot]

We shall see, and Valve?

Valve isn't publicly traded company.

 

[twilo99]

But PC is already more digital than consoles.

I was wondering if someone was going to tell him..

 

[Drew1440]

Looks nice, shame they are removing the disc drive for good. Hopefully they will release an external one like Sony is considering.

I kind of like the trashcan design.

Reminds me of the Mac Pro 2013 with its design.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

I want all three companies to do well, but with Sony coming out next year with a PS5 Pro and Nintendo with the Switch Successor, this really is a let down for me in terms of what Microsoft has planned.

I'm willing to bet money the PS5 Pro will be $499.99 - $549.99 tops which will make the all Digital Series X with no performance boosts for a $499.99 price point a really hard sell.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

The conversation around Sega branding is hilarious though. Cool to see that they are just like normal online folks.

 

[March Climber]

For hades sake... Controllers haven't evolved since dual shock 2... Why the fuck companies keep pushing this outdated design.

I never thought I’d meet another person here who thought the same thing I did about controllers lol. People here talk about games not evolving, but dual joystick controllers have not truly evolved for over 20 years now, and every company is now too scared to take a chance at doing so.

It’s crazy that everyone just settled into it.