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Ampere Estimatez: PS5 sold 21 million, Xbox Series sold 13.8 million.

Ezekiel_

Member
Well they did it with the PS5, its a loud big boy. Unless you luck out with a quiet fan, but the heat sink and fan are pretty small in PS4.
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kirby007

Member
Wasnt Zhuge the guy who predicted in the summer of 2013 Xbox One and PS4 would "launch in October or December", but turns out both systems launched in the middle of November?

It was either him or Shinobi.
Tip: you are going about this the wrong way, you dont even need to discredit Zhuge. you start by looking whether Zhuge has actually said that.
SPOILER he didn't
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
For you gamers trusting Ampere like some tried and true sales research company, the company was founded in 2014 or 2015 (depending which line you believe below). LOL.

I knew this place was noname.


About us​

Founded in January 2015 and based in London, Ampere Analysis is a fast-growing analyst firm with an experienced team of sector-leading industry analysts specialising in media, content, telecommunications and games. Our research allows companies to solve real-world business challenges in the fast-moving media and games sectors. Our service will combine, for the first time, big data analytics, consumer research and industry analysis. Our team has a long track record of working with all of the Hollywood Studios, leading telecoms and pay TV operators, technology companies, TV channel groups and investment banks. We also have a fantastic team of investors behind us, many of whom are specialist in the business information and research sectors. One of them founded Lovefilm!

Websitehttp://www.ampereanalysis.com

IndustriesMarket Research
Company size11-50 employees
HeadquartersLondon, London
TypePrivately Held
Founded2014
SpecialtiesPay and multiscreen television and Over-the-top content
 

Woopah

Member
For you gamers trusting Ampere like some tried and true sales research company, the company was founded in 2014 or 2015 (depending which line you believe below). LOL.

I knew this place was noname.

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About us​

Founded in January 2015 and based in London, Ampere Analysis is a fast-growing analyst firm with an experienced team of sector-leading industry analysts specialising in media, content, telecommunications and games. Our research allows companies to solve real-world business challenges in the fast-moving media and games sectors. Our service will combine, for the first time, big data analytics, consumer research and industry analysis. Our team has a long track record of working with all of the Hollywood Studios, leading telecoms and pay TV operators, technology companies, TV channel groups and investment banks. We also have a fantastic team of investors behind us, many of whom are specialist in the business information and research sectors. One of them founded Lovefilm!

Websitehttp://www.ampereanalysis.com

IndustriesMarket Research
Company size11-50 employees
HeadquartersLondon, London
TypePrivately Held
Founded2014
SpecialtiesPay and multiscreen television and Over-the-top content
Why does a company being over 7 year' old impact it's reliability?
 
For you gamers trusting Ampere like some tried and true sales research company, the company was founded in 2014 or 2015 (depending which line you believe below). LOL.

I knew this place was noname.

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About us​

Founded in January 2015 and based in London, Ampere Analysis is a fast-growing analyst firm with an experienced team of sector-leading industry analysts specialising in media, content, telecommunications and games. Our research allows companies to solve real-world business challenges in the fast-moving media and games sectors. Our service will combine, for the first time, big data analytics, consumer research and industry analysis. Our team has a long track record of working with all of the Hollywood Studios, leading telecoms and pay TV operators, technology companies, TV channel groups and investment banks. We also have a fantastic team of investors behind us, many of whom are specialist in the business information and research sectors. One of them founded Lovefilm!

Websitehttp://www.ampereanalysis.com

IndustriesMarket Research
Company size11-50 employees
HeadquartersLondon, London
TypePrivately Held
Founded2014
SpecialtiesPay and multiscreen television and Over-the-top content

This makes no sense. There are probably easier ways to try and discredit them
 

reinking

Member
What exactly am I lying about?

I apologize to the sensitive bunch that I said the PS5 is a loud big boy, if I knew it was going to cause this much butt hurt I would not of used such hurtful words...
I think it is because most people are not having the issue with the PS5. My XBSX is actually louder than my PS5 when I have a disc in each system. I know I have seen a lot of people say their Series X disc drive is quiet so I don't go around saying that my noise is the norm. If your PS5 is loud it sucks for you but most reports and reviews seem to indicate that you are the outlier and not the norm.
 

Topher

Gold Member
For you gamers trusting Ampere like some tried and true sales research company, the company was founded in 2014 or 2015 (depending which line you believe below). LOL.

I knew this place was noname.


About us​

Founded in January 2015 and based in London, Ampere Analysis is a fast-growing analyst firm with an experienced team of sector-leading industry analysts specialising in media, content, telecommunications and games. Our research allows companies to solve real-world business challenges in the fast-moving media and games sectors. Our service will combine, for the first time, big data analytics, consumer research and industry analysis. Our team has a long track record of working with all of the Hollywood Studios, leading telecoms and pay TV operators, technology companies, TV channel groups and investment banks. We also have a fantastic team of investors behind us, many of whom are specialist in the business information and research sectors. One of them founded Lovefilm!

Websitehttp://www.ampereanalysis.com

IndustriesMarket Research
Company size11-50 employees
HeadquartersLondon, London
TypePrivately Held
Founded2014
SpecialtiesPay and multiscreen television and Over-the-top content

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DenchDeckard

Gold Member
What exactly am I lying about?

I apologize to the sensitive bunch that I said the PS5 is a loud big boy, if I knew it was going to cause this much butt hurt I would not of used such hurtful words...

Compared to the ps4....the ps5 is pretty much silent. Sure I have a bit of coil whine but it's nothing compared to my ps4 or pro. I'm much happier with the ps5 over previous Sony consoles. Its the only reason I'll accept it being such a chunk! Lol
 

Helghan

Member
You think high, medium and low presets just magically appear in the settings without developer input? That's all extra work compared to just making one preset.

This topic is about developers having to do extra.
No. I'm saying that if developers are already making low settings for PC, they'll re-use it for the Series S. Thus no extra work than already planned.
 
What exactly am I lying about?

I apologize to the sensitive bunch that I said the PS5 is a loud big boy, if I knew it was going to cause this much butt hurt I would not of used such hurtful words...

I think you may have broken your PS5. Did you drop anything into the fans while you were upgrading your storage?
 

Sosokrates

Report me if I continue to console war
I think you may have broken your PS5. Did you drop anything into the fans while you were upgrading your storage?

Compared to the ps4....the ps5 is pretty much silent. Sure I have a bit of coil whine but it's nothing compared to my ps4 or pro. I'm much happier with the ps5 over previous Sony consoles. Its the only reason I'll accept it being such a chunk! Lol
As already explained in the videos I posted, sony uses different fans which produce different noise levels.

My pro was a jet engine, really bad.

I had a matte plastic PS4 revision which was quieter then launch PS4, my PS5 is about the same as that, just pretty standard fan noise, but in comparison to my XSX, its loud.
 

Sosokrates

Report me if I continue to console war
Louder but not loud is my thoughts on this one.

Does the PS5 noise level destroy the experience for me?

My answer would be no. I'm actually pretty happy with how quiet it is.

Yeah your right the PS5 is not loud by standard metrics (which have now changed,now that we have consoles which are barely audible), but now its just sad that I cant call the PS5 "a loud big boy" partly in jest without several posters not letting it stand.... Im mean talk about sensitive.


THE XSX IS A LOUD BIG BOY.....

THE PS5 IS A LOUD BIG BOY....

THE SWITCH IS A HIGH PITCHED BIG MOUSE😲😲😲😲


 
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Topher

Gold Member
Yeah your right the PS5 is not loud by standard metrics (which have now changed,now that we have consoles which are barely audible), but now its just sad that I cant call the PS5 "a loud big boy" partly in jest without several posters not letting it stand.... Im mean talk about sensitive.


THE XSX IS A LOUD BIG BOY.....

THE PS5 IS A LOUD BIG BOY....

THE SWITCH IS A HIGH PITCHED BIG MOUSE😲😲😲😲



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SLB1904

Member
Yeah your right the PS5 is not loud by standard metrics (which have now changed,now that we have consoles which are barely audible), but now its just sad that I cant call the PS5 "a loud big boy" partly in jest without several posters not letting it stand.... Im mean talk about givsensitive.


THE XSX IS A LOUD BIG BOY.....

THE PS5 IS A LOUD BIG BOY....

THE SWITCH IS A HIGH PITCHED BIG MOUSE😲😲😲😲


Just give it a rest lol
 
Yeah your right the PS5 is not loud by standard metrics (which have now changed,now that we have consoles which are barely audible), but now its just sad that I cant call the PS5 "a loud big boy" partly in jest without several posters not letting it stand.... Im mean talk about sensitive.


THE XSX IS A LOUD BIG BOY.....

THE PS5 IS A LOUD BIG BOY....

THE SWITCH IS A HIGH PITCHED BIG MOUSE😲😲😲😲



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Your a loud big thing.
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
And I'm just sitting here looking at how the past 2 month PS5 stock improved so much it helped the PS5 in the UK and the US, alot.

Aug NPD is gonna be yet another test to see if stock continues to improve.

All I will say if MS cant take advantage of:

Sony sitting out Jan - Mar of this year as far as stock
PS5 price increase
cheaper Series S with free games

I dont know what else MS can do...

So we have reached that part of the program where its time to discredit ppl that say something you dont like.

Interesting.

I would say I'm shocked....but I'm not.
Basically, lol.
 
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Woopah

Member
And I'm just sitting here looking at how the past 2 month PS5 stock improved so much it helped the PS5 in the UK and the US, alot.

Aug NPD is gonna be yet another test to see if stock continues to improve.

All I will say if MS cant take advantage of:

Sony sitting out Jan - Mar of this year as far as stock
PS5 price increase
cheaper Series S with free games

I dont know what else MS can do...

So we have reached that part of the program where its time to discredit ppl that say something you dont like.

Interesting.

I would say I'm shocked....but I'm not.

Basically, lol.
The biggest thing MS can do is release more exclusive games. Which should happen in 2023.
 
I always knew xbox was at 15m at most. You guys are mixing up shipped numbers, which is probably over 15m but actual consoles sold is 14m-15m. These guys have access to actual data and are pretty accurate. Xbox fans really need to stop getting triggered at any mention of sales just because it isnt favourable to them. You gobble up pr but discredit actual data.
 

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I always knew xbox was at 15m at most. You guys are mixing up shipped numbers, which is probably over 15m but actual consoles sold is 14m-15m. These guys have access to actual data and are pretty accurate. Xbox fans really need to stop getting triggered at any mention of sales just because it isnt favourable to them. You gobble up pr but discredit actual data.

Unless MS starts releasing hardware numbers, unfortunately there is no actual data anyway.
 
Unless MS starts releasing hardware numbers, unfortunately there is no actual data anyway.

This is the closest we get for xbox to actual data. If they have access to the xbox total in the US, than it would be easy to get an accurate worldwide total for xbox series because the US accounts for about 70% or there about. So 9m-10m in US would be about 14m-15m worldwide.
 
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johnjohn

Member
And I'm just sitting here looking at how the past 2 month PS5 stock improved so much it helped the PS5 in the UK and the US, alot.

Aug NPD is gonna be yet another test to see if stock continues to improve.

All I will say if MS cant take advantage of:

Sony sitting out Jan - Mar of this year as far as stock
PS5 price increase
cheaper Series S with free games

I dont know what else MS can do...

So we have reached that part of the program where its time to discredit ppl that say something you dont like.

Interesting.

I would say I'm shocked....but I'm not.

Basically, lol.
But MS has taken advantage of all that lol. They closed the gap from last gen drastically, and that's without a consistent stream of big first party games. 2023 and beyond is when the gap will shrink even more drastically because of all the must have games coming to Xbox and Game Pass.

The reality here is that Sony wasn't able to take advantage of Xbox's weak start to the gen, and it has allowed Xbox to get its shit together and create an insane lineup of games moving forward.
 
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TheTony316

Member
What exactly am I lying about?

I apologize to the sensitive bunch that I said the PS5 is a loud big boy, if I knew it was going to cause this much butt hurt I would not of used such hurtful words...

Don't know about yours but my PS5 is extremely silent. The only time it gets a bit loud is when i put a disc in and that only lasts for about 20 seconds.
 
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jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
But MS has taken advantage of all that lol. They closed the gap from last gen drastically, and that's without a consistent stream of big first party games. 2023 and beyond is when the gap will shrink even more drastically because of all the must have games coming to Xbox and Game Pass.

The reality here is that Sony wasn't able to take advantage of Xbox's weak start to the gen, and it has allowed Xbox to get its shit together and create an insane lineup of games moving forward.
Yeah, I guess thats one way to look at it...lol

In 2 months Sony basically wiped out any lead Xbox had in 2022.

I vaguely remember some ppl saying Xbox was leading in NA vs PS5. Thats clearly not the case anymore.

They took advantage of it...until Sony got things sorted out somewhat.
 

johnjohn

Member
Yeah, I guess thats one way to look at it...lol

In 2 months Sony basically wiped out any lead Xbox had in 2022.

I vaguely remember some ppl saying Xbox was leading in NA vs PS5. Thats clearly not the case anymore.

They took advantage of it...until Sony got things sorted out somewhat.
Again, this is all happening with Xbox releasing very few must have AAA exclusives over the past year.... Anything less than Sony keeping the momentum they had with the PS4 is not good, and you can be sure they're not happy about it. Xbox is already gaining market share in this weakened state, what happens next year when Xbox has a consistent flow of must have exclusives? Even the Game Pass line up next year is looking insane.

Some of you really need to learn about context lol. And the generation has barely started, we haven't even gotten to the point yet where the Series S actually becomes an attractive product. The whole point of the Series S is a cheap entry point into next gen, but there still aren't any next gen only games.
 
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zedinen

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Little has changed since the last round:

PS is on track to outsell Xbox in NA/UK for tenth straight year, the markets where 360 has a 25 million lead over PS3

Furthermore, PS5 continues to sell faster than PS4 in Asia

Shanghai lockdown means no PS5 in EMEA, the region where the PS3 outsold the Wii and 360 ...

Having said that, Sony has reshaped its supply chain and Q2 is going to be huge (4M+)

The only chance for Microsoft: a dystopian nightmare (the Great Recession almost killed Sony and Nintendo), a blind FTC and Yoshida/Totoki (hint: invested capital)

 

Eddie-Griffin

Gold Member
Zhuge claimed that Ampere was one of the most credible sources so I’ll take their word for it

Was this imaginary quote after or before you were drunk?

Little has changed since the last round:

PS is on track to outsell Xbox in NA/UK for tenth straight year, the markets where 360 has a 25 million lead over PS3

10 years ago was 2012, the 360 ponded the PS3 in the US and UK in 2012. Where are you pulling these numbers from, so called 10 years?

In 2 months Sony basically wiped out any lead Xbox had in 2022.

Where the heck are these guys coming from?

Yet you think you can give us more accurate estimates than Ampere, isn’t that something?

The fuck is an accurate "estimate"? Especially when Ampere doesn't even have NPD data or HFK and they are in bloody london.

This time will be even worse as Microsoft made 2 different consoles at 2 completely different price points

You mean like Sony and Nintendo?

I always knew xbox was at 15m at most. You guys are mixing up shipped numbers, which is probably over 15m but actual consoles sold is 14m-15m. These guys have access to actual data and are pretty accurate. Xbox fans really need to stop getting triggered at any mention of sales just because it isnt favourable to them. You gobble up pr but discredit actual data.

Did you read the OP? Xbox One would have been around 15 by August 2015. The Xbox Series is ahead of it.

This makes no sense. There are probably easier ways to try and discredit them

Yeah, like the fact they quoted VGchartz, and if you look at their posting history, and the dates, you'll see they took and reworded stories form other articles, or may analysis that have a low rate of accuracy.

As for Zhuge, he was banned from a few places for being wrong and getting into arguments for being wrong. He wasn't in his current position then, even now, while he has more insight beig part of nekki or whatever he's working at now, he still doesn't have actual data which is why he's still posting speculation, and trying to extrapolate data out of vague announcements on twitter.
 

recursive

Member
They went with 36cus and a high clock rate because its cheaper then going with more cus. They could of gone with 44 active cus @1855mhz , it would of given similar performance but the chip would cost more, the bigger cooling system for the current PS5 is probably not much more expensive then a smaller one.
Receipts plz. How do you know any of this? Sounds like bullshit.
 
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