Totally agree.KBM players suck. CoD is made for controllers it's so obvious at this point lol
i take it the tactical sprint hack isn’t giving you the edge?
Nobody is talking about infinite. I specifically said mw2 and CW. Before that, 2019.Oh boy let's have a look at some actual stats which where fortunately gathered from a public database thanks to Halo inifinite
Hmm yes I see, very linear... I'm wondering if they turned it down a bit though if the stats would start to line up more, just saying.
Its game to game of course but getting salty at M+K on Modern Warfare and Halo Infinite is just looooooooooool. Certainly seems to be a recent trend on over compensating with the aim assist.
Every single game I've had on Series X had at least 1 or more KB/M player active, sometimes more.Only when it can’t fill a game with controller players. I’ve been playing with a controller on PC and it matches me with console players 95% of the time. If you’re saying it’s a mouse player because you see the steam logo next to their name they’re probably on controller. When you start the game on PC it makes you choose between m/k or controller and restart the game if you wanna switch.
Like I f*cking said!!!! It doesn't matter if you play on Xbox or PC, if you use a mouse you should not be allowed to play with controller players!!!! PC players can use a controller too so this doesn't exclude PC players. No one gets excluded, it's just mouse players should not be playing against controller players period end of story.
inb4 the warn/banSTFU! everyone of you was crying for this feature two years ago. You get what you cry for. This is the problem with social media. Everyone crying for something they haven't even thought trough. Fucking idiots
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Aim assist helps with recoil control too. You don't have any recoil control help with mouse.Whats it matter if the aim assist locks on? With the TTK being what it is in MWII the difference maker is how quickly you can initially target the enemy and KbM has the advantage there
I am still trying to understand this since Golden Eye on N64.Thats the shit I'm talking about.
It's stupid, whats the meaning of a mega aim-assist? Isn't the entire point of playing making you better? While they are on it, why don't they let the game play for yourself?
Fair pointAim assist helps with recoil control too. You don't have any recoil control help with mouse.
Why you mad? It’s a simple fix by matchmaking via input method. Also for competitive balance purposes. As many here can attest if you play CoD, you in know dame well pc m&kb nerds have a distinct advantage. Also, I’m tired of hearing about aim assist. It slows your sim down as you get close to the target so it’s not the Godsend people here make it out to be.STFU! everyone of you was crying for this feature two years ago. You get what you cry for. This is the problem with social media. Everyone crying for something they haven't even thought trough. Fucking idiots
Modern? It's like this and worse on some games (cof cof Halo and Destiny cof cof) since always on controllers. Good thing there is m+kb and/or at least option to turn assists off in some games.Modern gaming is depressing.
I am still trying to understand this since Golden Eye on N64.
Yeah its unfair to M/KB players.
The AimAssist in MW2 is insanely powerful.
Hell on PC I play with on controller cuz with a Canted Laser the game basically plays itself.
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Why do I keep losing matches in AoE when I'm only using my mouse and no hotkeys?Why do PC players (KBM specifically) think they should dominate every match? Aim Assist should be high to equal the field.
Controller has been stronger the entire team and we just never knew it. Aim assist has always been strong. Heck on the old halo you didn't even need to be using left stick for rotational aim assist to kick in. You don't even need aim assists with gyroscope but console players seemingly don't want to use it because they're use to how strong aim assist is.What you guys fail to realize is that we are finally putting up CLOSE to equal stats.
Why do PC players (KBM specifically) think they should dominate every match? Aim Assist should be high to equal the field.
I play with a group of 4. 2 PC KBM, 2 Console Controller. The 1 KBM before the match starts in Cold War is able to move his mouse so fast his players moves at such a speed it looks like a glitch. If I max sensitivity and hold the stick all the way, we can’t even get close.
I agree with OP 100%. Separate KBM and controller.
Btw, as someone who played the MW2 beta on console and the full game routinely now on console, IMO they did nerf the AA somewhere in a hot patch a week after launch. I noticed the locking has fallen off for sure at least to some degree.
Could be just my mind, but I don’t think so as the other console player in my group said the same thing.
Why do I keep losing matches in AoE when I'm only using my mouse and no hotkeys?
Why do I keep losing in Tekken when I'm only using the left side of the controller and R1?
I should be given an advantage to make up for the fact I'm gimping myself!
Controller has been stronger the entire team and we just never knew it. Aim assist has always been strong. Heck on the old halo you didn't even need to be using left stick for rotational aim assist to kick in. You don't even need aim assists with gyroscope but console players seemingly don't want to use it because they're use to how strong aim assist is.
Cod historically has had very strong rotational aim assist. It’s always been better for short to medium engagements because humans can’t track as fast and accurately as the rotational aim assist.Respectfully man, I think you are seeing it the wrong way. It may be gimped competitively (as in e-sports), but 99% of players on CoD just want to have fun with a bit of competition at night. My preference of controller shouldn’t be an issue, as a large part of the user base (likely the majority) play via console.
I am not asking (nor is anybody) that KBM players should not be allowed to play, there simply should be options to play only with controller or KBM or both. Period. Again, you didn’t answer why some games are beginning to do this.
I am referring solely to CoD historically since crossplay. I can’t answer Halo, I don’t play it. Maybe that is the case.
Again though, dedicated options for both would fix this for you guys too. Don’t like AA console players? If you are KBM only, no issues.
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aim assist in something like mwII isn't the same type of assist like in Serious Sam,
not even remotely close
aiming just slows down when near opponent
They use controller because the aim assist is better than human tracking. It requires much less skill to make sure the left analog stick is registering movement than it does to actually point and click on moving objects.Playing with a controller requires skills, unlike a mouse where you just point and aim.
Theres a reason the majority of the best players uses controller.
But let's block cross play because I can't stand players who uses aimbot.
In casual play, sure. At least players should be able to set some kind of "join mixed controls" option.Respectfully man, I think you are seeing it the wrong way. It may be gimped competitively (as in e-sports), but 99% of players on CoD just want to have fun with a bit of competition at night. My preference of controller shouldn’t be an issue, as a large part of the user base (likely the majority) play via console.
I'm away of that.They use controller because the aim assist is better than human tracking. It requires much less skill to make sure the left analog stick is registering movement than it does to actually point and click on moving objects.
Why do you think that you should get help from semi aim bots fooling you that you are better at aiming, if you/your input method sucks at the game?Aim Assist should be high to equal the field.
Its the only way they can allow KBM to play against controller playersWhy do you think that you should get help from semi aim bots fooling you that you are better at aiming, if you/your input method sucks at the game?
So explain shooting and missing by a few pixels?the aim automatically follows your opponent, and in CoD it's to an extreme degree.
Or you can get good:Its the only way they can allow KBM to play against controller players
Or you can get good:
Or use gyro assist.
Or change your input method for another older input method that don't suck for shooters.
PS: Aim assists are not there because of crossplay with PC/mouse, they exist since always for controllers.
So explain shooting and missing by a few pixels?
Where's the assist in that regard?
But mouse is the ultimate aim assist.
It's practically auto aim.
That's why cheaters using aim bots are not fought/banned by Anti cheats, right?But mouse is the ultimate aim assist.
It's practically auto aim.
Controller is better because moving with analog and button arrangement makes more sense than keyboardthe aim assist isn't aiming for you, it is helping you in every way it can. that includes slowing down close to the target and following the target to a degree.
if you are dogshit in shooters you will of course still miss.
but now you explain to me why 80% of all Apex pro players switched to Controller within the last few months after controller players started absolutely dominating the top 25 rankings.
are you high? have you ever played with a mouse in a competitive shooter?
and then we come to games like Halo and Dsstiny that have such crazy aim assist that the devs gave some of those aim assost feazures to Mouse players as well because Controller would be basically cheating if they didn't.
Play some of the older cods.That's why cheaters using aim bots are not fought/banned by Anti cheats, right?
Controller is better because moving with analog and button arrangement makes more sense than ASWD
But there is matchmaking. If matchmaking is good then that means that I am being matched with players who have proven to be similar skill level to me. Why do I care if he's using a mouse, a controller, a power glove, or a fucking potato? If we have similar skill then we have similar skill so that's the definition of a fair fight. Not an "equal" fight but a fair fight.So this doesn't exclude PC players because you can play with controller on PC. But I was playing the new COD MW 2 and it dawned on me that mouse players really shouldn't be playing against controller players. Again this doesn't exclude PC players, but crossplay should be divided up into two groups, one group for controller players only and the other for mouse players. It's just here I am playing on a controller and I'm fighting against dudes playing with a mouse and keyboard, this is hardly fair. Mouse players should play against other mouse players and controller players against other controller players, this is how crossplay should be set up.
I did see a video once about the settings you could use in Apex on controller that basically gives you aimbot-esque aiming. I know people are using it. There's no way that kid hit EVERY SHOT.
Should have won that game.
I don't think MW2 has similar auto-aim settings but I do feel that in close range battles I am at a disadvantage playing against controller players.