Fredrik
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Yeah I noticed that as well. Is it the fps boost mode or load times?
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[DF]MASS EFFECT Legendary Edition PS5 vs Xbox Series S/X
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Dodkrake
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#ConsumerFriendly #NotMisleading #ConsumerFirst
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
The game doesn’t say optimized for Series X|S.
Chukhopops
Member
How is the game not « optimized for Series S/X » when it runs at a higher resolution and/or frame rate than XB1/1X? That’s the exact definition of an optimisation.
As for EA Play addition, there is no rule. C&C remastered was added six months after launch for example.
Dodkrake
Banned
Are you sure?
Buy Mass Effect™ Legendary Edition | Xbox
The Mass Effect™ Legendary Edition includes single-player base content and over 40 DLC from the highly acclaimed Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, and Mass Effect 3 games, including promo weapons, armors, and packs – remastered and optimized for 4K Ultra HD.
www.microsoft.com
Bogroll
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ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Oh it does. It’s like Star Wars Squadrons. Could be an EA thing since both have the 120fps option.
Fredrik
Member
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Xbox Series X and PS5 both native 4k/60FPS in quality mode, Series X holds the frame rate more steadily than PS5 in “quality” mode but drops are fairly slight for the most part 55-60FPS for the vast majority of the time.
Wait, the words are backwar... Holy shit
Fredrik
Member
I guess that as a Sony fanboy, getting stomped repetitively by the competition makes you go and look at banners and fine prints to get that cathartic "gotcha!"
dudes should just get an Xbox with game pass, stop buying $70 indie games that delete your save file, besides getting subpar performance on third party games.
anyway... back to the superior version of RE Village.
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Epic Sax CEO
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EDIT: headache made me "go full retard" and confuse the number of CUs. In BC mode the PS5 uses all the CPU but in GCN Mode.
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Yeah but according to VGtech the series drop the res a little.
rofif
Banned
so strange. why would it load so much longer on ps5 ?
Fredrik
Member
That’s just a result from BC on better hardware. That’s not an X|S optimization as far as I’m concerned, it needs specific improvements for X|S in the code to go under that label imo. Xbox One S had 3fps higher framerate over Xbox One back in the days, didn’t mean games were One S optimized.
Bioware actually did a pretty great job consider it's running a modified Unreal Engine 3 to work and take advantage (to some degree) of the new hardware. They didn't do a shitty job just bc of Sony's limitations in the OS and even then those drops are rare. The overreaction or blaming of Bioware is ridiculous, cmon.
It's optimized as far as Microsoft is concerned. It's pointless to argue over this, really.
"Games featuring the Optimized for Xbox Series X|S icon will showcase unparalleled load-times, heightened visuals, and steadier framerates at up to 120FPS. These include new titles built natively using the Xbox Series X|S development environment as well as previously released titles that have been rebuilt specifically for Xbox Series X|S."
Optimized for Series X|S | Xbox
Mass Effect falls under that category of "previously released titles" (back compat) taking advantage of the hardware of X|S.
Md Ray
Member
This is normal. PS4 games running on PS5 in back-compat mode don't make use of fast storage API hence slow load times.
Fredrik
Member
Then all games playable through BC is X|S enhanced
Chukhopops
Member
If a game is not optimised for Series, it runs at the same resolution or locked frame rate as the One / One X version. If it runs at a higher resolution or frame rate then it has been optimized for Series, that’s how it’s been branded since the first patches. I don’t see anything confusing here.
Chukhopops
Member
A remaster released two days ago is now a RETRO GAME. Words have lost any meaning they had left.
Fredrik
Member
It’s using dynamic res, that’s the reason it’s higher resolution than One X in resolution mode. I’m not sure about the framerate though. Maybe that’s a valid loophole. Is it 30fps on Xbox One X in resolution mode?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
To those saying this comparison is “pointless”, is it not possible that some people are legitimately interested in learning which version runs best and what the differences are?
Or is “console war dick measuring contest” the one and only purpose of comparing a game on multiple platforms?
Or is “console war dick measuring contest” the one and only purpose of comparing a game on multiple platforms?
The game code for ME:LE still takes into consideration Xbox Series X and S platforms, which is why XSX allows 120 fps. It may be back compat, but the game code is still "aware" of next gen in the package (hence the "gen9aware" in the app packages rather than "gen9" for native). That differentiates it from other BC titles, and makes it "X|S enhanced" qualified. Not just because it loads faster from SSD brute forcing or how xbox allows 'full power' in BC.Then all games playable through BC is X|S enhanced
Bogroll
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To be fair its not that bad. Especially how long we had to wait last gen. Its just that we all play silly buggers in these threads.
At least I would like to think we are (including me at times) are not as pathetic in real life as we are on here.
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Silent Viper
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Fredrik
Member
Isn’t it running at 120fps because of FPS boost? The magic there is that the code has no clue it’s actually running the game in 120fps, it still think it’s 60fps.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Nice win for Xbox. PS5 did win two of the comparisons. One by about a second and the first part where it won by a fraction of a second.
Xbox won by much bigger margins. Anywhere from 1 second to 10 seconds depending on which part he tested.
Mr Moose
Member
That's a separate thing, I believe.
This is more like the patch CoD MW received to get 120Hz mode.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
No it's not FPS boost. It's the same as Squadrons where it has a 120fps mode without having to enable FPS boost.
Fredrik
Member
What so they patched the game to target 120fps on XSX but not on PS5? That would be odd.
Fredrik
Member
Okay my bad then. Weird though, why haven’t they patched it for PS?
Edit: And in that case I guess X|S optimized is fair.
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Mr Moose
Member
Yeah, it's a plus point of software BC.
It's a bit weird since PS4 supports 120fps with VR games, but apparently you need a native app for PS5 120Hz.
Rocket League gets 120Hz mode on Xbox Series X/S — but not PlayStation 5
Rocket League now runs at 120 frames per second on next-gen Xbox consoles. The PS5 caps the game at 60 frames per second.
venturebeat.com
Yes. But in file information is XDK, not GDK. GDK= native XSX port.
Fredrik
Member
Huh, didn’t know this. So when Ghost of Tsushima for example runs at 60fps on PS5 it’s because they’ve patched it to run natively on PS5 hardware instead of using the PS4 bc?Yeah, it's a plus point of software BC.
It's a bit weird since PS4 supports 120fps with VR games, but apparently you need a native app for PS5 120Hz.
Rocket League gets 120Hz mode on Xbox Series X/S — but not PlayStation 5
Rocket League now runs at 120 frames per second on next-gen Xbox consoles. The PS5 caps the game at 60 frames per second.
Edit: forget that, sorry, it’s 120fps only, trying to understand this lol
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ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
They never patched Squadrons or Warzone on PS5 for 120fps either. There has to be a reason for it.
Mr Moose
Member
I think 60fps is the limit for BC games on PS5.
SirTerry-T
Member
"Console wars on retro games is nuts. Its interesting to see how and old game improves on new hardware but once the big new games come nobody will care about retro stuff."
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Pull n Pray
Banned
Really? Didn't know that. The only ones I've paid attention to since EA Play came to Game Pass are Madden and Star Wars Squadrons. And they both came to the service in less than 6 months I think.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Not sure what you mean. This trilogy pack is the same as the old games except the graphics have been tidied up, includes tons of DLC and they said they adjusted some quirky gameplay from 10 years ago like the moon buggy handling.
Skip the originals and get this pack.
Of course it's more a $$$ commitment as you could probably find those old ass versions for only $10. If you got EA Play, the old versions are available.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Basically all EA games come to EA Play in the 6-12 month range. Sports are 12 months apart. Star Wars BF games are 12 months. I think BF games are a year too. Other kinds of games will vary a lot. I think Unraveled and ME Andromeda were only about 6 months after launch.
SkylineRKR
Member
would've bought S version if it had 1440p 120hz probably. I could get it for PS5, but its a PS4 game. So nothing spectacular.
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SmurfMustard
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Man that screeching noise can be heard three threads away. Stop moving those damn goal posts. You'll survive and maybe that old fish will make you a nice list so you all can cope.