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Bitch Pudding
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This season is already dead to me.
PdotMichael
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Either they are just scrapping qualifying and do reverse grid stuff or they should just accept that embrace the fact that qualifying will result with the natural speed order of the cars. The "best years" for many people were when we had two long qualifying sessions after all.
Any attempts of making it more "exciting" and introducing chaos elements will just hurt the sports.
Any attempts of making it more "exciting" and introducing chaos elements will just hurt the sports.
darkinstinct
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Because that's not making it better. Having two seperate qualifying formats in one qualifying is even more annoying. Just go back to what you had in 2015, there was no need to change it at all. The problems are elsewhere.
Man Q1 was so good, but Q2 sucked
And Q3 even worse.
brotkasten
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I can't hear this whole "fantastic job by the team" anymore. God, it's so old.
PdotMichael
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The analogy fails because no one would use and trust Pirelli condoms.
I've heard that analogy somewhere before.
I honestly don't know how anybody can watch the post qualifying press conferences anymore. I mean unless you have insomnia.
The delaminations would be real.
brotkasten
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You're right, but I'm always hoping for some stuff from Ted or good driver snippets.
It's a fashion thing, like his ear blings. It's nothing bad and doesn't hurt anyone.
But how else can you make sex exciting if not through the anxiety of not knowing whether you are pregnant or not? Everybody has sex for the chaos element. It is known.
darkinstinct
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massivekettle
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Or maybe he's hiding the car's potential.
Ferrari has very strong race pace, so with the qualifying gap massively down, perhaps that also makes them level in terms of race pace.
Things do tend to get exciting when you reverse positions.
It hurts my laughter muscles.
It's 2:40 AM and even looking at pictures of the post-qualifying pressers on Twitter make me depressed.
It's a theory, I guess.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
I don't know where you guys got the idea that he was downplaying or resignated at all. He said the complete opposite, his words were "There is a gap but we haven't seen the true picture". That's saying they could actually be closer - just chose not to do so because they can't beat the Mercedes.
It really, really wouldn't.
Doesn't it usually work that way during the race?
PdotMichael
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It would be only "exciting" if you just delete all laps after a timeout and give all drivers the oppurtunity for one lap.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Yes, that would work, except it wouldn't. You're forgetting engine rules, they can't drive as much because the engines have to last four races minimum. Adding what is basically a qualifying race on top ain't gonna work.
The problem is the tyres. These Pirellis can't be pushed for lap after lap. They lose all perfrmance. You can get two hotlaps out of a new set and then that's it - the performance level has already started to go. This is exactly what we saw today.
Plus you simply can't do hot lap after hot lap on those tyres.
aspiegamer
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The format is perfect. For a video game. It'd require the following to work:
1) Unlimited tyres. All compounds.
2) Equal spacing between all cars.
3) Uniform track conditions for entire sessions.
4) No yellow or red flags, ever.
5) Flying laps still count and/or increase the timers to 2x a lap time so a driver can do an outlap + flying lap when on the bubble (that's the part with increased drama).
A video game can totally screw with things to make that all happen. Reality cannot. This'd work for Formula E or mostly-spec series that has short tracks with <1min laps, or for like a GT series where cars stay on the track for extended periods of time anyway.
And even if you could it doesn't solve half the problems, but this is the #1 issue.
Elvin Atombender
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This format will probably work even worse on tracks with where laps take 90 seconds or more.
If the elimination clock starts ticking on someone two positions behind and you're in the pits, you're already out as well.
If the elimination clock starts ticking on someone two positions behind and you're in the pits, you're already out as well.
massivekettle
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Well... he seemed to be hopeful, but when he started referring to how long the season was and the car's "potential"... he seemed resigned, at least for this GP.
Supersoft will not be the race tyre, therefore they didn't have anything to lose by going out again. They chose not to do so because they probably realized they couldn't beat that time.
Actually, don't think you can do more than one proper hotlap on these tyres, especially the Supersoft and the Ultrasofts, which WILL be the qualifying tyres at a number of tracks this season.
Which is ridiculous as this system is effectively rewarding not making mistakes over outright speed. They need to be given more tyres for qualifying only if people want to see these guys out more often.
darkinstinct
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You could work around that. Like do a lap, eliminate the slowest driver, delete lap times, do another lap, eliminate the slowest driver ... If you do it like that and start the qualy race in reverse order of championship standings it could be really interesting. Give them two more engines just for qualifyings over the season and it might actually work.
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