DenchDeckard
Gold Member
Don't mention raytracing unless it's 60 fps on console. Nail that and you have my upmost respect.
I am putting my faith in you turn 10.
I am putting my faith in you turn 10.
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Forza Motorsport Details From Director Livestream: Revamped Career, RT During Gameplay, Fully Dynamic ToD
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Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Hawking Radiation
Member
Today is going to be a good day. I'm all on board for more next gen stuff
Kazekage1981
Member
im sure there will be weather effects: rain, snow, fog..
U n i o n 0015
Member
I really hope they don't go the Horizon route of time boxing a bunch of cars, but who am I kidding, this is the new way of AAA game development.
Craig of War
Banned
Music to my ears when this comes out it will blow every other racer out their away
Pedro Motta
Member
Would be nice to see how it measures up, but Its not like it matters from a purchase point of view since the game is a Play Anywhere game. Meaning one single purchase or Gamepass Ultimate gets you both versions of the game.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Has any Forza Motorsport game in recent history ran only at 30 FPS ?
Optimizing for rock solid frame rate has pretty much been T10's claim to fame over the years.
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Hawk269
Member
Those not familiar with Turn 10, 60 fps is like one their top priorities. They know that a racing sim/game needs to be 60fps and they design the game from the get go to hit that number. Turn 10 actually when it comes to 60fps has been one of the most consistent devs to be able hit that goal but hit it at a 100%.
Turk1993
Member
"The announcement discussed a "connected and dynamic" world, with added depth enabled by the improved ForzaTech engine. That includes a 4K resolution target at 60 frames per second (FPS) on Xbox Series X, the best Xbox console on the market right now."
https://www.windowscentral.com/forza-motorsport-8
https://www.windowscentral.com/forza-motorsport-8
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, it's weird that people are even bringing it up lol.
In the new DF Direct, Richard talked about it as well, says he's spoken to T10 and the way they operate is they stress the engine/game the most, i-e most # of cards on track with the heaviest weather, and begin optimizing for performance from there downward.
It's what they do.
There you go.
Adding this to the OP, thanks !
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01011001
Member
not sure what you mean by that?
BusierDonkey
Member
In Horizon you can't use all the Car Pass DLC cars day one, Forza Horizon cars release in a staggered fashion, one car a week. It's kind of shitty.
01011001
Member
yeah, that's the usual way to "spread out" content. they don't want andry period where nothing releases is my guess.
and they also releae free new cars each season, so I guess they are streched thin in general
It takes time to rebuild engines and take advantage of all those CUs and power .. it’s always mostly about costs and time.
Kagey K
Banned
They are talking about the Amico version obviously.
DenchDeckard
Gold Member
Have they confirmed 60 fps with raytracing on series x? If so turn 10 are wizards, even if its like 1440p with fsr 2.0 or something that's seriously impressive.
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No but maybe this one will have a "fidelity" mode. Plus yes FM was initially 30fps.
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Boaty McBoatface
Member
This and GT have amazing original tracks, I don't know why they keep moving away from originals vs real.
ParaSeoul
Member
I'd prefer if they always showed console footage first.
Bogroll
Likes moldy games
I'm thinking maybe even 30fps RT reflection and gameplay at 60fps mode like how they used for some reflections on other Forza games. And even that would be impressive imo given how expensive RT is. But if that is the case I hope there's a option to turn off and use cube maps etc at 60fps
Riky
$MSFT
Great news, I wonder if they are using Tier 2 VRS, SFS or Mesh Shaders? Might explain the big performance leap.
Bogroll
Likes moldy games
This is the chance to use it if anyone is gonna use the consoles to their full potential.
oldergamer
Member
If anyone is you can bet its turn 10. since they are using a new engine
The others would be id software or the coalition that make the best use of hardware features and often perform R&D type work or find ways to use features that other studios do not.
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U n i o n 0015
Member
BusierDonkey stated it. In Horizon you have seasons, and have to do a bunch of repetitive events in that two-week (or is it month-long?) period in order to get whatever new cars they've added. If you miss out on getting those cars, you have to wait until they decide to recycle them into the season order.
I'm just an old fart, games typically never did this sort of live-service, time-boxed content during my prime gaming years. But almost all games in the Triple A space do this nowadays because it keeps the players constantly engaged in their game by triggering FOMO in them. It's just a really shitty way to deliver a game IMO, but I know why devs and publishers do it.
In Cold Blood
Banned
Turn 10 are wizards with their tech.
Can't wait to see what the best looking racing game every created feels like when playing.
Can't wait to see what the best looking racing game every created feels like when playing.
Yeah, I get that. I'm primarily a console gamer myself, but I don't think its deceiving to show their game in the best light with PC footage because you will have that version for "free" if you have the Xbox version. Now if the PC and Xbox version were separate purchases I would feel different about it, but I don't doubt the Series X version will be far off from what they show'd.
SlimySnake
The Contrarian
4k resolution target is dumb. Use reconstruction. Settle for 1440p. There is absolutely no need to hit a native pixel count here. I cant believe devs are still doing this in 2022.
Especially when they are unable to put RTGI in gamepla and have to settle for adding them to replay modes. By lowering resolution to 1440p, they wouldve been able to make the game look like it does in the replay mode. 1440p looks perfectly fine on 4k sets. Yes, it's not as sharp as native 4k, but Id rather have a higher visual fidelity than a sharper image. Or at least, offer it on PC on the xsx as a fidelity mode. If they have done the work to implement this in replay mode then it shouldnt be that hard.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I agree with you in principal but it would probably make this place explode lol.
Amen. I'm not really big into sim racers but what they've shown is incredible.
A revamped career mode has my interest piqued.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
GenericUser
Member
So, what's different in the career mode? It only says "completely new carreer mode". No shit sherlock, I didn't expect you to copy paste the same events and structure from FM7. I hope the make it so, that you have to stick longer to a individual cars, upgrade and tune them a little bit, before jumping in a new car. Like GT.
Mattyp
Gold Member
The new Forza Motorsport is the only next gen racing game.
Riky
$MSFT
"You’ve asked for deeper, more authentic multiplayer racing, and we set out to make that a reality. The new #ForzaMotorsport has a focus on growing skills and building communities by incorporating a race weekend-like structure with Open Practice, Qualifying and a Featured Race."
More good news from Turn 10.
More good news from Turn 10.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
This is my most anticipated Series X game along with Starfield and Hellblade 2. I'm sure H2 is going to be fantastic but who knows when it'll actually come out (2024 hopefully) and Starfield has many question marks like "how will the performance hold up; will it make its 2023 release; will the procedural stuff be any good?" but Forza 8 everything seems to be shaping up beautifully. It has the potential to correct all the mistakes I see with GT7. Actual next gen visuals with tracks that aren't ripped straight from their previous game and simply "remastered"? Probably. A better reward and mtx system? Yup
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nikolino840
Member
Tiamat2san
Member
I hope there’s a lot of original tracks.
In Forza or GT, they are my favourites.
Usually they are the most fun to play and the prettier ones.
Real circuit are important but they are in almost every game every time.
More original content please turn 10.
In Forza or GT, they are my favourites.
Usually they are the most fun to play and the prettier ones.
Real circuit are important but they are in almost every game every time.
More original content please turn 10.
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