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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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Corsair Link is (unfortunately in my experience) complete garbage. Real Temp is great though.
Also, can somebody help me find a genuine one? I thought I had payed for a legal genuine copy.
Does it have to say "verified" or "no heatware profile" besides them?
Because, I'm ready to buy right about now.
michaelius
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If we are super lucky Intel will bring Broadwell-E 8 core at 500$ tier at most.
justsomeguy
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I suspect those reddit sellers are reselling msdn licenses and/or dreamspark and so on, which they shouldn't be reselling. I wonder if MS are clamping down.
MSDN keys will only get issues if more than, iirc, 10 PCs become activated with a single key. You can use an online PID checker to check if the key is a Retail or MSDN key.
I'm so confused and new to PC.
So I tried a PIDChecker (http://d-fault.nl/PidCheck.aspx) and it says this:
Validity: Valid
Edition Type: HomePremium
Key Type: Retail
Why am I having problems? =/
So I tried a PIDChecker (http://d-fault.nl/PidCheck.aspx) and it says this:
Validity: Valid
Edition Type: HomePremium
Key Type: Retail
Why am I having problems? =/
You are in Windows, installed key, but does not activate at all?
You are using Home Premium Win 7?
Does it offer phone activation?
Ah that sounds pretty dodgy to me, sounds like he may of sold this key to more than one person. Id contact the seller and see what he/she says.
Yeah, I have already messaged him.
Dries
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Which test? And 10 minutes isn't enough I guess, because I ran Small FFT for 15 minutes. That passed, but I still got my error.
And I wouldn't mind some more input so I'm gonna ask again: Which Prime95 tests should I run and for how long?
Also, one more thing: I manually set my Vcore in my BIOS to 1.330V. But what does HWinfo tell me?
Seems strange? Shouldn't it never get higher than 1.330V?
Demon Lizardman
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18 more days until the Devil Canyon comes out...
Sectorseven
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Worth getting this power supply?
eBay Huckster
Member
Assuming you're cool with non-modularity then yeah, it's almost preposterously worth it (especially at THAT price)
Yeah.
Scroll up a bit to look at VCore in specific, rather than VID.Which test? And 10 minutes isn't enough I guess, because I ran Small FFT for 15 minutes. That passed, but I still got my error.
And I wouldn't mind some more input so I'm gonna ask again: Which Prime95 tests should I run and for how long?
Also, one more thing: I manually set my Vcore in my BIOS to 1.330V. But what does HWinfo tell me?
Seems strange? Shouldn't it never get higher than 1.330V?
Small FFT is the test to run. He means that you run it in 10 minute intervals just to see if you get any quick errors. To really test, I'd leave it running overnight, at least 12 hours. Some people like to go longer, but that's been fine for me for years.
Well my parts have started to arrive.
Gigabyte - z97x-soc force.
thermaltake 850w psu
coolermaster haf x
saphire R290x
samsung 256GB 840 ssd
seagate 2TB hybrid drive.
16GB of Corsair Vengeance 2133mhz.
I'm just waiting for my devil's canyon i7 (4790k) to arrive at the end of the month. While I was waiting on the proc I was researching cooling options.
Gigabyte - z97x-soc force.
thermaltake 850w psu
coolermaster haf x
saphire R290x
samsung 256GB 840 ssd
seagate 2TB hybrid drive.
16GB of Corsair Vengeance 2133mhz.
I'm just waiting for my devil's canyon i7 (4790k) to arrive at the end of the month. While I was waiting on the proc I was researching cooling options.
I don't see those in the OP anywhere
I don't see those in the OP anywhere
but but the Haf X is there.
Dries
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Thanks for the tip concerning Prime95.
But I scrolled further and indeed saw my Vcore at 1.308V. So that looks more normal. No idea what that Core #x VID is though.
VID is the amount of power that the board is supplying, as there is vdroop. VCore is the actual voltage received.
overburning
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Hi all, I’m looking to upgrade my PC since the one I’m using now is getting old:
Your Current Specs: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T / 8GB RAM / ASUS M4A89TD / AMD HD6870 / Cooler Master GX 750W / 4TB HDD
Budget: roughly $1500 AUS
Main Use: 5 for gaming; 4 for general usage; 3 for streaming; 2 for video editing; 1 for emulation; 0 for 3D/model work.
Monitor Resolution: 1080p, not planning to upgrade.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: I would like to be able to run newer games (those releasing this year - also looking at Witcher 3) in ultra 1080p but not sure if that’s realistic with my budget?
Looking to reuse any parts?: 8GB RAM / Cooler Master GX 750W / 4TB HDD / also mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers
When will you build?: Not in a hurry, probably before October when every game is coming out.
Will you be overclocking?: Probably not.
I tried to come up with a build (from Haz’s build and Logical Increments) and can use some suggestions:
CPU: i5 4690k (if I can save up a bit more I may go i7) $285
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H $217
RAM: 2 x 4GB DDR3 (reuse) - they are 1333, how much difference would 1866 make?
Graphics: I don’t know if I should go Nvidia or AMD. I play plenty of EA’s and Square Enix’s games so if Mantle works then I guess that favours AMD? I’m thinking about a R9-290 or a GTX 780 at the moment but I’m open to suggestion. $499-$559
SSD: not planning to get one unless I can save up
Storage: 2 x 2TB WD (reuse)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 750W (reuse) - is this enough to power this spec?
Case: I have no idea about the case, have been using an old office case forever with terrible cooling. Maybe a Corsair 500R? $155
Optical Drive: reusing old drive.
Heatsink: 212 EVO $37
Soundcard: onboard
Total: $1193
Also a question on the OS, can I use my old Windows? I’m planning to reformat the drive and re-install the OS if that’s possible. Sorry for all the questions as I’m pretty new to this PC building thing. Would appreciate any help, thanks.
Your Current Specs: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T / 8GB RAM / ASUS M4A89TD / AMD HD6870 / Cooler Master GX 750W / 4TB HDD
Budget: roughly $1500 AUS
Main Use: 5 for gaming; 4 for general usage; 3 for streaming; 2 for video editing; 1 for emulation; 0 for 3D/model work.
Monitor Resolution: 1080p, not planning to upgrade.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: I would like to be able to run newer games (those releasing this year - also looking at Witcher 3) in ultra 1080p but not sure if that’s realistic with my budget?
Looking to reuse any parts?: 8GB RAM / Cooler Master GX 750W / 4TB HDD / also mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers
When will you build?: Not in a hurry, probably before October when every game is coming out.
Will you be overclocking?: Probably not.
I tried to come up with a build (from Haz’s build and Logical Increments) and can use some suggestions:
CPU: i5 4690k (if I can save up a bit more I may go i7) $285
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H $217
RAM: 2 x 4GB DDR3 (reuse) - they are 1333, how much difference would 1866 make?
Graphics: I don’t know if I should go Nvidia or AMD. I play plenty of EA’s and Square Enix’s games so if Mantle works then I guess that favours AMD? I’m thinking about a R9-290 or a GTX 780 at the moment but I’m open to suggestion. $499-$559
SSD: not planning to get one unless I can save up
Storage: 2 x 2TB WD (reuse)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 750W (reuse) - is this enough to power this spec?
Case: I have no idea about the case, have been using an old office case forever with terrible cooling. Maybe a Corsair 500R? $155
Optical Drive: reusing old drive.
Heatsink: 212 EVO $37
Soundcard: onboard
Total: $1193
Also a question on the OS, can I use my old Windows? I’m planning to reformat the drive and re-install the OS if that’s possible. Sorry for all the questions as I’m pretty new to this PC building thing. Would appreciate any help, thanks.
The Wizard
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Current GPU: GTS 450 which I'd say is definitely due an upgrade.
Resolution:1080p, prefer 60fps if possible also.
Games: AAA titles for 2014/ 2015. Want to run current stuff like watch dogs, wolfenstein etc with some amount of hope at future titles like far cry 4, dragon age, witcher 3.
Looking to upgrade soon, this summer if possible.
Budget is in and around £200 (UK)
Interested in looking at and GPUs too, maybe the 280x?
Rest of my build is fairly similar to "great" list in op though I don't have cooling/ overclocking set up yet.
Hope that helps a bit, let me know if more info is needed for reccomendations.
Which test? And 10 minutes isn't enough I guess, because I ran Small FFT for 15 minutes. That passed, but I still got my error.
And I wouldn't mind some more input so I'm gonna ask again: Which Prime95 tests should I run and for how long?
Also, one more thing: I manually set my Vcore in my BIOS to 1.330V. But what does HWinfo tell me?
Seems strange? Shouldn't it never get higher than 1.330V?
What CPU is it?
HWmonitor is just confusing things, use CPUz and it will tell you the VCore.
The VID is determined dynamically on the latest CPUs, it is solely dependant on the bios, CPU and Multiplier. Most likely a 0v offset will give you that Vcore with Load Line Calibration disabled, which will be about 1.28v probably after VDrop and Vdroop. 1.33v for 4.1Ghz just sounds like a lot to me is this is an i5 4670k. You should be able to do it close to stock voltage.
Yeah, the 280x seems a good fit for what you're looking for.
You should overclock your processor. It's a great boost in multiplayer games, and the only thing you need to pay for is a heatsink.
For AMD vs. NVIDIA, it comes down to whether or not you will use the NVIDIA features like Shadowplay and G-Sync. If not, then the 290 is a better buy than the 780. But they're both great cards.
Your PSU is plenty sufficient.
Check out the Phanteks Enthoo Pro from the OP. Check out the other cases listed there too. Those are all the best.
Faster RAM *might* make a difference in the same types of games where overclocking matters, which is more or less multiplayer games, Source engine, Blizzard games, UE3, strategy games, and some others.
Yes, you can reuse your windows key for the new build.
I would actually like to see what a performance dual core chip would look like. The freed up real estate from removing the extra cores and used instead for a more powerful pipeline. To try and get more single threaded performance.
Most chip space is used for interconnects and not functional units.
Most chip space is used for interconnects and not functional units.
overburning
Neo Member
Thanks!
So that 212 EVO heatsink is all I need to overclock?
Ok. Another thing for the card, does it matter which brand to get? Would Gigabyte be a better choice since I'm getting a Gigabyte motherboard?
I will check out the cases, I'm planning to buy from MSY but unfourtunately they don't have a lot to choose from.
Interesting... the only games that matter to me in your list are strategy games, I may see how I go with my budget and see if I want to upgrade my RAM as well.
Well men...the decision has been made...Core i7 2600k you have been a good soldier for me, a brother even. For 3 good years. But the time has come:
Got some white sleeved EVGA PSU cables coming tomorrow along with a Pro SLI 3-way bridge. Then it's time to build!
I'm ok with this. This board is top notch and with the 6 core 4930k I'll be good for a while. I do most of my changes on the GPU side, and I won't be limited with this board anytime soon. Haswell-E after sleeping on it...I'll let it marinate before hopping in. Kind of like SB-E -> Ivy-E.
Got it with a 2 year replacement plan from Microcenter...so if something goes wrong with it and they don't have this board in the future, which they probably won't, I'll get a gift card for what I paid and can use that for another board in the store. Either the ASUS Swift monitor or Asus 4k Gsync monitor is the only other PC purchase I'm making this year. IT'S A WRAP.
Goodbye PCIe 2.0 ;_;
Got some white sleeved EVGA PSU cables coming tomorrow along with a Pro SLI 3-way bridge. Then it's time to build!
I'm ok with this. This board is top notch and with the 6 core 4930k I'll be good for a while. I do most of my changes on the GPU side, and I won't be limited with this board anytime soon. Haswell-E after sleeping on it...I'll let it marinate before hopping in. Kind of like SB-E -> Ivy-E.
Got it with a 2 year replacement plan from Microcenter...so if something goes wrong with it and they don't have this board in the future, which they probably won't, I'll get a gift card for what I paid and can use that for another board in the store. Either the ASUS Swift monitor or Asus 4k Gsync monitor is the only other PC purchase I'm making this year. IT'S A WRAP.
Goodbye PCIe 2.0 ;_;
Awesome.
I'm not sure if it does. Perhaps wait for the RoG Swift?
CreepingFear
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Grats Smokey and grats to whoever gets his mobo and cpu for cheap when Haswell-E comes out this fall.
So does that mean that you do without a card from the time you sell to when your new card arrives? I mean, if I could get that much back for mine I think it's worth it being without a card for a bit. Don't think I'd be able to handle more than two weeks without a working PC tho.
The time has come.
What could run a UE3 game no problem can only run Watch Dogs at 1 frame every 3 seconds. It's been a long time since I upgraded so I'm slightly out of the loop. What's a good retailer for the UK price-wise? I used dabs and sharkyextreme last time.
Budget: UK. £400 is what I paid last time, anticipating having to go over.
Main Use: Gaming 5, Emulation (PS2/Wii), 5, Video Editing, 2, 3D/Model work 3, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback), 5.
Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024. Would like to be future proofed for a 1440p resolution but opitonal.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Watch_Dogs, Arma3, Wolfenstein, Daylight, GTAV. 30fps target
Looking to reuse any parts?: 1TB hdd, Corsair TX 650w PSU.
When will you build?: no deadline
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, but longevity takes priority
Needs a case. I have serious dust buildup in my current room.
No other peripherals like network card, dvd drive, etc needed.
Longevity is the priority. I would like this to last for the lion's share of this generation.
Value for money is another priority, so no buying the best GPU when a close competitor is there for a significant price drop.
Would prefer Nvidia & Intel brands unless there's a real performance/price justification.
Thks.
What could run a UE3 game no problem can only run Watch Dogs at 1 frame every 3 seconds. It's been a long time since I upgraded so I'm slightly out of the loop. What's a good retailer for the UK price-wise? I used dabs and sharkyextreme last time.
Budget: UK. £400 is what I paid last time, anticipating having to go over.
Main Use: Gaming 5, Emulation (PS2/Wii), 5, Video Editing, 2, 3D/Model work 3, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p playback), 5.
Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024. Would like to be future proofed for a 1440p resolution but opitonal.
List SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Watch_Dogs, Arma3, Wolfenstein, Daylight, GTAV. 30fps target
Looking to reuse any parts?: 1TB hdd, Corsair TX 650w PSU.
When will you build?: no deadline
Will you be overclocking?: Yes, but longevity takes priority
Needs a case. I have serious dust buildup in my current room.
No other peripherals like network card, dvd drive, etc needed.
Longevity is the priority. I would like this to last for the lion's share of this generation.
Value for money is another priority, so no buying the best GPU when a close competitor is there for a significant price drop.
Would prefer Nvidia & Intel brands unless there's a real performance/price justification.
Thks.
Dibs.Grats Smokey and grats to whoever gets his mobo and cpu for cheap when Haswell-E comes out this fall.
Nah, buy the new one, then sell the old ones. Recoup costs.
Would it? I am replacing the CPU, mobo, ram and graphics card entirely.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+
GA-MA790X-UD3P mobo
2gb ddr2 RAM
GTX 550 Ti
I'm sure there will be something. Haz will figure it out lol
Grats Smokey and grats to whoever gets his mobo and cpu for cheap when Haswell-E comes out this fall.
I really dont think so. CPUs don't get me all bothered like GPUs. I've been rocking Z68 for ever and I only switched to that from P67 because of a board issue.
No. Put them up for sale shortly before purchasing New cards. I just sold my second and final 780Ti last night, but I've had my Titans for a few weeks.
It helps us give better advice. Thank you. You're in for a treat of an upgrade
Even better
I was probably gonna go AMD next round (390x) but this whole thing Nvidia has been doing with gameworks is kinda scaring me. My boy gets terrible watch dogs performance with his 290.
Even better
I was probably gonna go AMD next round (390x) but this whole thing Nvidia has been doing with gameworks is kinda scaring me. My boy gets terrible watch dogs performance with his 290.
Eh Watch Dogs needs a patch whether you have Nvidia or AMD. The Gameworks thought is a valid concern.
CreepingFear
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Sounds kind of like this one.
CreepingFear
Member
Guys. Talk me out of this. Thinking of getting an R90X. One that doesn't have the shitty reference cooler.
Running HD7950 and it's FINE, I guess. I only play in 1080p but I'd like to downsample more and use higher settings in the few games I have to make compromises for- notably I want to be able to use the better forms of AA. And id imagine it's a better future proofed card than what I have.
I'd need another PSU as well, I think, because mine's only 650w.
Running HD7950 and it's FINE, I guess. I only play in 1080p but I'd like to downsample more and use higher settings in the few games I have to make compromises for- notably I want to be able to use the better forms of AA. And id imagine it's a better future proofed card than what I have.
I'd need another PSU as well, I think, because mine's only 650w.
I need a mkenyon seal of approval on the following :
Your Current Specs: Intel Core i3-2100 / 4GB RAM / ASUS P8P67 LE / GTX 560 Ti / Seasonic 500W / 1TB HDD
Budget: roughly $1200 CHF
Main Use: 1 for gaming; 2 for emulation (if possible WiiU as well)
Monitor Resolution: 3440*1440 Ultra Wide
SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Witcher 3 in Ultra @ 3440*1440 and any other game that will come out thereafter
Looking to reuse any parts?: mouse, keyboard, speakers, no hardware outside these
When will you build?: probably in January 2015
Will you be overclocking?: No.
My suggestion (I estimate that three times the increase in GPU power is worth an upgrade) :
CPU: i5 3570 $207
Motherboard: AsRock Z77 Extreme4-M $127
RAM: 2 x 4GB DDR3 $90
Graphics: ZOTAC GTX 770 2GB GDDR5 x2 $650
SSD: MX100 256 GB $100
Storage: 1TB (reuse)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 750W $150
Case: Fractal Design Node 804 (thanks !) $100
Optical Drive: nope
Heatsink: nope
Soundcard: nope
Total: $1374
Your Current Specs: Intel Core i3-2100 / 4GB RAM / ASUS P8P67 LE / GTX 560 Ti / Seasonic 500W / 1TB HDD
Budget: roughly $1200 CHF
Main Use: 1 for gaming; 2 for emulation (if possible WiiU as well)
Monitor Resolution: 3440*1440 Ultra Wide
SPECIFIC games or applications that you MUST be able to run well: Witcher 3 in Ultra @ 3440*1440 and any other game that will come out thereafter
Looking to reuse any parts?: mouse, keyboard, speakers, no hardware outside these
When will you build?: probably in January 2015
Will you be overclocking?: No.
My suggestion (I estimate that three times the increase in GPU power is worth an upgrade) :
CPU: i5 3570 $207
Motherboard: AsRock Z77 Extreme4-M $127
RAM: 2 x 4GB DDR3 $90
Graphics: ZOTAC GTX 770 2GB GDDR5 x2 $650
SSD: MX100 256 GB $100
Storage: 1TB (reuse)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 750W $150
Case: Fractal Design Node 804 (thanks !) $100
Optical Drive: nope
Heatsink: nope
Soundcard: nope
Total: $1374
Are you selling the old parts? The PSU, for example, could be brought over.
Goin for my daily run tho, I'll post again when I get back
Your PSU is good.
Goin for my daily run tho, I'll post again when I get back
I went from a 7970 to a 290, and even then the difference is noticeable. A few games I wasn't able to keep at 120 FPS now stay there.
Your PSU is good.
Thanks ! Yes, I plan on selling my old rig altogether. I am not a big fan of my Cooler Master CM690III anymore and I really want to aim for a small factor gaming rig. If the next generation of nVidia GPUs are noticeably better than the 700s series, I would even go for a single GPU setup in order to fit everything in an EVGA Hadron Air.Are you selling the old parts? The PSU, for example, could be brought over.
Goin for my daily run tho, I'll post again when I get back
I went from a 7970 to a 290, and even then the difference is noticeable. A few games I wasn't able to keep at 120 FPS now stay there.
Your PSU is good.
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