SteelCurtain 59
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No, games are not worse just because more people can play them.
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I think PlayStation lost a lot of its "magic" by porting its exlusives to PC
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Also, their biggest success since PS ramped up profits since 2016 isn't even first party games. Their first party software sales are a small portion of sales and profits. Before 2016, the entire PS gaming division from PS1 to around 2015 or 2016 had roughly flat profits as it was a roller coaster ride of profits and losses. Even when LOU1 selling tons of copies and remasters at the end of the PS3 era/beginning of PS4 era barely made a budge into profits.
What made their gaming division zoom up the charts of financials was having 100M user base all buying digital through the PSN store and mtx galore and paying for online which for Sony started when PS4 launched.
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Sentenza
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He was arguing that MOST people don't buy PS games on PC because "they already own a PS5", when a simpler explanation is that many just aren't that interested.
Not sure what the user score among THOSE WHO BOUGHT THE GAMES has to do with it.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
For warriors it makes them great if you have to join their group to play said games.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
For console gamers, those kinds of games can be a success. For PC gamers, they might not care. PC and console gamers are different.
That's like consoles getting ports of Counterstrike, League of Legends or Factorio and expecting the same success and following. They wont replicate the PC fanbase remotely closely.
Nautilus
Banned
PC is an essencial item.You use it for work, entertainment, other hobbies, etc. A console isn't. So why not just game on that essential item that has all the same games that a console has, and save some money, and upgrade once every 5 or 6 years?(The same as a console life cycle)
I mean, its such an obvious conceot...
Topher
Gold Member
You are both right obviously. Some like myself already own a PS5 and I play PS exclusives there. Others like my son don't care about PS exclusives and doesn't play them on either system.
You must be drunk on donkey piss,not every major Playstation release is on PC, such as
Ghost of Tshushima
Infamous 2nd Son
Infamous Last Light
The last of us 2
Horizon Forbidden West
Astros Playroom
Grand Turismo Sport
Grand Turismo 7
Bloodborne
SOTC
Demons Souls Remake
Ratchet and Clank
Rachet and Clank Rift Apart
GOW Ragnarok
Ect ect ect
Sentenza
Member
And you must be severely crippled in terms of reading comprehension, because the sentence you quoted was about Nintendo games.
Vick
Member
Fair enough, I misinterpreted "AMAZINGLY DESIRABLE and the hottest shit" which does make perfect sense from the pov of what you meant.
Totally agree.
Umbasaborne
Banned
It definitely does not. The people who say this seem like corporate boot licking fan boys who are sad that people don't need to pay their favorite corporation (who does not give a shit about them in return mind you) 500 bucks to play their precious exclusives. When i hear people say this, all i can think of is this image
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My reading comprehension is perfectly fine lady,hows that donkey piss tasting ....I'm sure you brush your yellow teeth with it right?
BacklashWave534
Member
Giving gamers more choices = lost their magic. Strange take.
Little Chicken
Member
What magic?
It's just software.
It's just software.
Sentenza
Member
First step of grieving: denial.
adeptusminor
Neo Member
I'm sorry the magic is gone for you, OP.
Topher
Gold Member
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
And also the annual fees to play online.It definitely does not. The people who say this seem like corporate boot licking fan boys who are sad that people don't need to pay their favorite corporation (who does not give a shit about them in return mind you) 500 bucks to play their precious exclusives. When i hear people say this, all i can think of is this image
Even the first time I played online gaming (Unreal over 20 years ago), I didn't pay any fees to Epic. Just log in, server browse and pick a match to join.
Listen Lady it's not my fault you spent valentines alone in a dog house...leave alone please
Thank youUm.....welcome to NeoGAF?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Sentenza
Member
Look ,you can stop with the attempts to sound like a tough guy calling me "lady".
First, because it doesn't make you sound a single tidbit less retarded, second because it's not up to debate that you were OBJECTIVELY wrong but it's there for anyone to see, and third because if you weren't behind seven proxies there are good chances this "Lady" would pimp slap your dirty mouth until your teeth would come off.
Take your L for being an illiterate moron and go to cry yourself to sleep.
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Hey she started itDamn a NEO starting his GAF career like this?
Topher
Gold Member
Blah blah blah "Nurse we go a patient who just escaped the mental ward,and is online making threats of violence towards the innocent "
By the way you will have to jump up and swing just to hit me on the knees...go play hide and seek with Snow White lady.
Vick
Member
Why you defending her?
Mr.Phoenix
Member
I still haven't figured out if this is a parody thread...
Or is it just a frida... oh wait.
Or is it just a frida... oh wait.
Sentenza
Member
Maybe because he doesn't want the honorary ticket for Team Retarded?
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
As an owner of a high-end PC with an RTX 4090 and a PS5, I can’t disagree more with the OP.
PS5 still has plenty to offer that my PC doesn’t have. Where is the PC version of Ratchet and Clank, Horizon Forbidden West, God of War Ragnarok and GT7?
None of those games exist on PC and if they do they are years away. This doesn’t even include PSVR2 games that I wanna play that aren’t available on PC.
PC is just another way to experience Playstation games. It doesn’t hurt the console platform at all. In fact, Sony is breaking records with PS5 and they can’t seem to make them fast enough due to the insane demand for them.
PS5 still has plenty to offer that my PC doesn’t have. Where is the PC version of Ratchet and Clank, Horizon Forbidden West, God of War Ragnarok and GT7?
None of those games exist on PC and if they do they are years away. This doesn’t even include PSVR2 games that I wanna play that aren’t available on PC.
PC is just another way to experience Playstation games. It doesn’t hurt the console platform at all. In fact, Sony is breaking records with PS5 and they can’t seem to make them fast enough due to the insane demand for them.
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MikeM
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Agreed. I have a 7900xt PC and still split my time between them 50/50.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Same here man. I’m always hopping back and forth between both systems. It’s crazy to me that some people actually think PC ports damage the console’s reputation in any way.
Esppiral
Member
Fixed
Mr.Phoenix
Member
A Pc is an essentia item. A gaming PC...snot. Maybe he should have better said, because your GPU cost more than a PS5.
I can buy a PS5, and buy a $400 `essential` laptop, for under the price of some GPUs. And said GPU is just one of 7 things you need on a PC, and that's not including a controller (since that's optional) and a monitor.
You can probably see that I ate this PC value argument that is often thrown around because it makes no sense to me. People about PCs like a $400 PC can even remotely game like a PS5.
I currently have a PC with a 3080 by the way, and a $500 laptop, where I happen to do 90% of my PC stuff on. Truth be told my desktop PC is more like a HTPC gaming box.. So this is coming from place of me Just know that the PC-to-console value argument is full of crap.
alphachino
Member
I agree that PlayStation may have lost a lot of its magic, but embracing PC was absolutely the right thing to do and their strategy is impeccable. They’ve made no guarantees that support will continue indefinitely and they can stop at any time. PC support was great at a time when there were PS5 shortages and hedging against the risk of a new generation.
I know this isn’t a thread about Xbox, but by this standard, I also believe that Xbox has completely lost all of its magic, to the extent that it makes owning Xbox hardware completely redundant if you own a PC.
I know this isn’t a thread about Xbox, but by this standard, I also believe that Xbox has completely lost all of its magic, to the extent that it makes owning Xbox hardware completely redundant if you own a PC.
Cyber_hunter026
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Rac3r
Member
If games were launching day and date on PC then I'd agree with you; but I don't think there's a huge impact when they're ported a year later, or longer. Most people on console have moved on to the next big release by the time "old" PS games arrive on PC. I have a feeling that Factions 2 will be the first simultaneous release for PS Studios, and we can revisit this topic again when that happens.
Shifty1897
Member
First I get jumped for saying the PSVR2 isn't going to set the world on fire and now people are pissed that I suggested that Sony letting their games come to PC years later is a good thing.
That's enough GAF for today.
That's enough GAF for today.
Laptop/Console combo is what you would probably find in a large majority of homes right now. The need for a desktop PC is dead unless you work in an industry that specifically requires a rig.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
I think this is a batshit insane take, OP.
fart town usa
Gold Member
I'd say PS lost a bit of luster because they keep making the same base game with slight variations between each IP.
It is what it is, I'm not the target audience so I try not to poo poo it too much. I just play other games that appeal to me.
It is what it is, I'm not the target audience so I try not to poo poo it too much. I just play other games that appeal to me.
Solidus_T
Member
Most people will still buy a console because it just has a better value these days with insane GPU prices - and I say this as an owner of a high end PC. They are being smart about it, choosing to release the PC ports some time after so that people will still mostly choose the console versions, but the PC ports are still there for those who want to get a little extra juice.
I would encourage them to go even further and find out a way to make the PS store a launcher or make games purchased on PS downloadable on PC.
Also they need to make PSVR2 PC compatible in my opinion. GT7 VR is legit and would blow up on PC.
I would encourage them to go even further and find out a way to make the PS store a launcher or make games purchased on PS downloadable on PC.
Also they need to make PSVR2 PC compatible in my opinion. GT7 VR is legit and would blow up on PC.
Dirk Benedict
Member
Taking time off Returnal to reply here:
Returnal on PC
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BattleScar
Member
I'm sure people who are unable or otherwise unwilling to spend $1000 to build an equivalently performing PC are perfectly happy.
The reason they did this is because despite what people on a nerd forum like this like to think, the actual overlap between PC gamers and console gamers is actually very small.
Most people don't give a shit.
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