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IGN France: Yes, Redfall was originally planned for PS5
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
So when it was extended we got the news,now the extended date has passed by about a year and a half and we have nothing ?Have you considered that Square doesn't see it as a good enough return to port it on Xbox?
Gobjuduck
Banned
Feel the same about GT7 ?
Mr Moose
Member
I don't think they'd care now, it's done most of the sales it would have.
Intergrade
PlayStation 5
June 10, 2021
Windows
December 16, 2021
Looks like the timed exclusivity ended and the PC version released. They can release it whenever but it's Square-Enix, they are like Atlus.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Have you considered why Square ported the much less popular Crisis Core to Xbox and not the much more popular FFVII Remake itself ?
Not sure how anyone can say without laughing that anything but moneyhats are involved there.
See above. If Square are porting the far less popular Crisis Core to Xbox, FFVIIR would be an automatic shoe-in unless moneyhat/contractually obligated.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
That’s different.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Of course it will.....They're already drafting up a script. Too late though. lol
GHG
Gold Member
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yes it is shitty that it is always online, not everyone here have to have double standards, look at those who were indifferent on the redfall always online news, strangely enough a lot of them weren't happy when it was for Gran turismo...Always online is just a shitty practice.
Roxkis_ii
Member
I hope you keep that same energy when Final fantasy comes out.
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yep a remaster I am sure that it must've costed them an arm and a leg.....I'm prettty sure that Ubisoft had to make a loan to port tetris or uno on all platforms.Have you considered why Square ported the much less popular Crisis Core to Xbox and not the much more popular FFVII Remake itself ?
Not sure how anyone can say without laughing that anything but moneyhats are involved there.
See above. If Square are porting the far less popular Crisis Core to Xbox, FFVIIR would be an automatic shoe-in unless moneyhat/contractually obligated.
Demon2blades
Member
Maybe testing the water did it do ok on Xbox ?Have you considered why Square ported the much less popular Crisis Core to Xbox and not the much more popular FFVII Remake itself ?
Not sure how anyone can say without laughing that anything but moneyhats are involved there.
See above. If Square are porting the far less popular Crisis Core to Xbox, FFVIIR would be an automatic shoe-in unless moneyhat/contractually obligated.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
FFVII R is an Unreal Engine 4 game, porting that from one x86 machine to the other would not cost 20 million dollars. That's a pretty lame excuse.
Daniel_Mallorca1985
Member
Gobjuduck
Banned
I can play it on PC. Just like I did with sf5. 16 looks great.
Supposedly, according to CMA reporting for the acquisition of Activision, Sony is preventing it from coming to Xbox permanently.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Sony-...sda-games-Xbox-and-PC-exclusive.676457.0.html
I have never made a game, but I can't imagine it would be that hard to port a game from Windows PC to Xbox.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah and yet Square seems to think it wouldn't sell enough to justify it, maybe xbox is not really the target for japanese games.Unless you have proof that Sony extended the timed exclusivity ?
Forsythia
Member
Anyone with half a brain knows these games would've been released on PS5 if it wasn't for the acquisition. Even if they haven't been officially announced.
kicker
Banned
Don't you guys get tired of these back and forths? None of these console manufacturers have your best interests at heart. They have no hearts. They are corporations who work to make as much money from you for as long as possible.
You should care about games, not consoles. Care about developers/studios and not heads of publishing.
More exclusive deals are ultimately damaging to the industry, and Nintendo shows what could happen when a single company has no incentive to provide new features (or even basic convenience, quality of life stuff) because you have no choice and can't play any of their games anywhere else.
You should care about games, not consoles. Care about developers/studios and not heads of publishing.
More exclusive deals are ultimately damaging to the industry, and Nintendo shows what could happen when a single company has no incentive to provide new features (or even basic convenience, quality of life stuff) because you have no choice and can't play any of their games anywhere else.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Two posts above yours.
Mr Moose
Member
MicroSoft don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
I don't trust Microsoft nor Sony.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
No it's not. Did you even read it?
We been through this in the OT, you were in that discussion. It is lawyers talking out their ass. They even mention Bloodborne, an IP owned by Sony
That is how much weight you can put into that paragraph.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
See
adamsapple
this is how you argue he has sources, sure they are MS sources arguing why their exclusivity would be justified.So even if I find the source MS debatable, I do agree to take it into account.S alright sony blocked FF, a franchise that has most of its history with playstation, is it still worse than buying a whole publisher ?
Demon2blades
Member
Nevermind found an article stating the percentages crisis core did on ps/switch / Xbox according to Nintendo life ....
Square Enix's latest release, Crisis Core - Final Fantasy VII - Reunion made its top ten debut this week, coming in at number eight. The RPG spin-off performed particularly well on PlayStation, making up a total of 82% of the sale split across the PS4 and PS5. Switch accounted for 12% while the Xbox made up the final 6%.
X-Wing
Member
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Gobjuduck
Banned
It’s not. Small team can port and optimize relatively easy. It’s worth it in every case, unless it’s some extremely niche game that’s only bought it japan.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Big mad about Bloodborne's permanent moneyhat!That is according to Microsoft not according to the CMA.
sainraja
Member
I am guilty of this too (more so lately), but it seems most of us can't get past the comments the more dedicated people to their plastic boxes make when it comes to the exclusivity of games to those plastic boxes—those people **clearly** have double standards, and they show that over and over without fault. Exclusives exist on both sides of the spectrum. Faulting one over the other or repeating this conversation over and over just takes away from the overall gaming discussion.
Exclusive can be a good and bad thing, though. They can help give a company or box its identity. What is weird about what is happening now, is long standing MP games being turned into exclusives which I don't think should have happened but it has so it is what it is.
Exclusive can be a good and bad thing, though. They can help give a company or box its identity. What is weird about what is happening now, is long standing MP games being turned into exclusives which I don't think should have happened but it has so it is what it is.
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Gobjuduck
Banned
Don’t think Xbox talked to square enix about wanting final fantasy? I think the have a good idea.That is according to Microsoft not according to the CMA.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No it's not. Did you even read it?
We been through this in the OT, you were in that discussion. It is lawyers talking out their ass. They even mention Bloodborne, an IP owned by Sony
That is how much weight you can put into that paragraph.
They mentioned bloodborne, sure, but more importantly they mentioned FF16, Sh2 and VIIR, all of which *are* third party paid exclusives.
It doesn't have any more or less weight than people saying just because a trailer 2 years ago said '6 months exclusive' it means the exclusivity window couldn't have been extended, especially after it had been done once before as well.
X-Wing
Member
I don't have an issue with exclusives. I have an issue with hypocrisy and lies.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Like an extremely niche game being made in South Korea?
Airbus Jr
Banned
Phil Spencer talk about things and do things differentlyBut hey, that's not me!
His words doesnt match his actions
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Two posts below yours and 4 posts below yours...Bloodborne that famous moneyhat that has beeb co devellopped by sony first parties and which sony owns the IP, so maybe not that trustworthy with such a mistake in the 4 example they give, in one sentence there is already a 25% of error.
sainraja
Member
There is a lot of that too. I was about to edit my post to speak to that. That is probably the worst. People who are obvious aren't as annoying lol.
Bernardougf
Gold Member
No jokes or trying to be sassy... but I really wanted to know if the usual shills really gain anything for the constant PR spin on MS topics ... I cant for the heart of me believe is all blind fanboyism... if you are going to put your integrity on the line for a plastic box at least must be to gain something in return...
Or lying your teeth out and doing constant mental gymnastics must be really fun for some people
Or lying your teeth out and doing constant mental gymnastics must be really fun for some people
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
25% error ? lol ok, well going by your logic it's 75% true, so it's 3 times more true than it is false.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
xbox deserves all this PR cluster fuck. their messaging sucks asssss.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Which shows the validity of out of touch lawyering over vidya.
DaGwaphics
Member
Poor IGN. They think this is news.
Next at 11, water is in fact wet.
They already said they started work on this game long before the acquisition process was started or completed.
Next at 11, water is in fact wet.
They already said they started work on this game long before the acquisition process was started or completed.
ResilientBanana
Member
With ABK not Bethesda. $7 Billion vs $68 Billion are radically different price points.
You mean the Street Fighter 5 that Sony came in and saved by co-funding? The people these questions need to be directed at are the developers and not Sony. FFVIIR exclusivity period ended March 3, 2021 for the PlayStation and its even displayed on the box art.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Congrats you didn't understand my post , there is a 25% of confirmed error, probably like that Superman game sony is supposedly develloping...I will simplify it for you...In a divorce X will say Y did bad things and the opposite too, but none are to be trusted.In this case you are only listening to MS that have been known to lie ... a lot.25% error ? lol ok, well going by your logic it's 75% true, so it's 3 times more true than it is false.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
They have console exclusives, which is pretty much what Sony has these days.
Only Nintendo has real exclusives.
I was just talking about "reports" related to CMA. I wasn't trying to insinuate that CMA said it.That is according to Microsoft not according to the CMA.