THE DUCK
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I'm not sure how you get that, to me it looked as good as anything else contemporary aaa.
Way further along than I expected.
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Indiana Jones by MachineGames Officially Revealed - Coming in 2024 | Xbox Direct 2024
I'm not sure how you get that, to me it looked as good as anything else contemporary aaa.
Way further along than I expected.
VulcanRaven
Member
I like how the graphics look and I'm just happy we are getting more Indy. Looking at those short third persons clips makes me a bit sad though. I wish the whole game was like that. Making a first person Indiana Jones game is like making a first person Batman game. I want to see the character doing things.
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Killer8
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Did either of you read anything I said?
Yes, there is third-person, but if it's minimized to cut-scenes and certain traversal actions, you don't get the same reinforcement that you're playing as the character as seeing them on screen at all times. The developers give the rationale that first person is more immersive - but I think that, paradoxically, not seeing the silhouette of the character at all times actually does far more to lessen immersion.
If I see Spider-Man on screen, it is concrete that I am playing as Spider-Man:
You can take almost any screenshot from the game and immediately know. Hell, I even used a screenshot of a random old Spider-Man game to illustrate that the point applies across games, even.
Similarly I can do this with Batman:
Now I look at moment-to-moment gameplay from Indy (ie. what a huge amount of the game will look like because of muh first person immersion):
What are we looking at here? The new Elder Scrolls? The new Wolfenstein? A WW2 COD game? Some puzzle solving walking sim? A UE5 tech demo showing off a jungle? Without the silhouette the game loses its identity, which it would easily have if it looked like this at all times:
Boom, immediately obvious, and the key point is that by reinforcing this to the player at all times via a third person view, the player will feel like Indy more.
Lucifers Beard
Member
1st person? Nah, I'm out.
LordCBH
Member
100% how I feel here. I’m sure they’ll make a decently fun FPS Indy game. But first person doesn’t fit Indy. Part of the charm is seeing Indy do cool shit while I control him, IMO.
It would be like making a TPS halo game: just no.
NeverYouMind
Gold Member
If they have many platforming elements it will be bad in comparison to Uncharted, but Indiana Jones is not known for parkour so with enough interactivity and adventure game elements the first-person view could work out well. It worked for Bioshock...
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Phase
Member
People will disagree but I had the same reaction, and I was rather excited to see what they had come up with.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The whip controls would suck in third person, also we have enough examples of games like Butcher Bay, Robocop etc where you have no loss in immersion of 'feeling' of embodying a character because it's third person.
Batman is a brawler where you need to have constant situational awareness for combat, having that in first person would be a different thing compared to this.
AltogetherAndrews
Member
Looks even worse than expected. Yikes.
Dazraell
Gold Member
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
First person. What a waste. I categorically don't play first person games, so have no interest in both Avowed and this Indy game.
I'm betting this is going to limit sales/MAUs, because it seems there are far more people who refuse to play first person games than there are people who refuse to play third person games. Would be interesting to see which perspective Negaffers prefer.
I'm betting this is going to limit sales/MAUs, because it seems there are far more people who refuse to play first person games than there are people who refuse to play third person games. Would be interesting to see which perspective Negaffers prefer.
BlackTron
Gold Member
I play first person practically every day. I still think this was a mistake.
THE DUCK
Banned
They said in the video traversal is third person......
First person is fine, some huge overreacting here. We don't need uncharted 5 mixed with tomb raider.
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Ristifer
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I just play games. I don’t give a fuck what the perspective is, as long as it’s good.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Moses85
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Th
That wasnt this hard.
Badlucktroll
Member
wonder what the golden circle macguffin is
BlackTron
Gold Member
I don't think he was talking about the sets.
Skifi28
Member
I suppose the next Fable is going to be a kart racer then, or maybe studios don't always have to do the same thing and we can expect them to occasionally evolve/adapt to what they are making.It's a studio who makes nothing but first person games, and even still some folks need to convey how disappointed they are that it isn't a third person game
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BlackTron
Gold Member
It's an easy excuse to go on a globe-trotting adventure that makes a big circle when completed.
I'm being 100% serious.
Stuart360
Member
Its just a viewpoint. We have had first and third person games since the start of 3D gaming. In fact some of the biggest selling games of all time are first person.
nowhat
Gold Member
Oh you don't need Naughty Dog to scratch that itch, the world is full of uncharted holes if you're creative/adventurous enough.
mayham2199
Member
The combat was the only thing that I'm not sure about. Otherwise it looks great.
mortal
Member
Looks pretty decent honestly, although the combination of 1st person and quasi-3rd person is kind of jarring imo.
It comes off as a design concession as they understand how iconic the character is.
The inclusion of a condescending female adventurer who puts Indiana in his place made me roll my eyes.
It comes off as a design concession as they understand how iconic the character is.
The inclusion of a condescending female adventurer who puts Indiana in his place made me roll my eyes.
Badlucktroll
Member
I wished they did something like God Of War 2018 instead of first person
Majormaxxx
Member
Shooting should be solid. Music should be great as well. Premise sounds great.
Cringe dialogue and strong independent characters will be an issue.
So a 50/50 chance of a good game?
Cringe dialogue and strong independent characters will be an issue.
So a 50/50 chance of a good game?
Mister Wolf
Member
Exactly. It's not about liking or disliking First Person.
dem
Member
Really? In Indiana Jones?
MiguelItUp
Gold Member
Honestly anyone that didn't think first person was a possibility kind of did it to themselves IMO. It's Machinegames. They're clearly fans of the perspective, and hasn't really been a secret. I thought alternating between third and first on the fly would've been cool, but them doing first, but then third for moments still works. Much like it did with Butcher Bay. Even if this is a bigger and more recognizable IP.
The "issue" with going strictly third person is that they've had third person Indy games previously. We've also had quite a few games where the environment or characters were clearly inspired by Indiana Jones. But this is at least new for Indiana Jones, even if some people may not agree with it, or doubt it.
With how Butcher Bay was handled, I think it wouldn't be fair to completely shoot this down personally.
Have you not seen Raiders or Temple of Doom? I mean, those characters weren't really educated adventurers, but I don't think a female adventurer is too far fetched.
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cash_longfellow
Gold Member
Wait, this shit is first person? I should have guessed with the devs helming it, but naw, I’m out now.
Stuart360
Member
Yep they have to have stuff like that in the game of course. Although after the disaster that is Dial of Destiny, and movie fans reaction to that woman in that, i'll guess they wont go overboard with her in this game.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Watched it a second time and...got weird Peter Jacksons King Kong The Video Game (2005) vibes
Also I heard the Wilhelm Scream
Apparently the lead designer behind Butcher Bay and The Darkness is behind this one too
Also I heard the Wilhelm Scream
Apparently the lead designer behind Butcher Bay and The Darkness is behind this one too
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
A nice sentiment. But I still get queasy after playing a first person game for 20-30 minute. I've long given up on those games. I think the last FPS I played must have been Bioshock Infinite.
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BlackTron
Gold Member
This is actually another reason I don't like the 1p decision. Indy is either not on screen at all, or when he is you're looking at those cutscenes and close-ups. At no point can Indy be the effective selling point he really is.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm also not a fan of the first person but it looks entertaining. WAYYYYYYYYY YYYYYY YYYYYYYY YYYYYYY better and more interesting than Hellblade 2. Consider me interested.
sodstall
Member
from 1:55, it looks like some 3rd person swinging? so maybe some dynamic/cinematic action shots for traversal and combat?
edit: brainfart
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Hugare
Member
Put me in the "1st person was a mistake" group
It doesnt make you feel like Indie. It makes you feel like, well, you.
It also limits what can be done in terms of gameplay. Looks like Wolfenstein + a whip.
An Uncharted-like game but with Indie + next gen graphics was all I was hoping for
It doesnt make you feel like Indie. It makes you feel like, well, you.
It also limits what can be done in terms of gameplay. Looks like Wolfenstein + a whip.
An Uncharted-like game but with Indie + next gen graphics was all I was hoping for
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DJ12
Member
Lets face facts, it looks like a cross gen title in 4K (although I bet it's not), the animation is awful, the facial models a bit iffy, voice acting poor and the puzzle where he randomly threw a stone and it landed somewhere he wasn't really aiming is telling me this isn't going to be a great game.
Add in Todd's involvement after the train wreck that's Starfield and I'm worried for this game. The story is going to be an incoherent shit show.
I'll be honest, when he said John WIlliams I got pumped, but even that lead to a let down.
First person is not for this, it will turn into a generic shooter that will be forgotten when the nostalgia glasses fall off.
I have a feeling this will get a third person mode patched in at some point.
We all know xbox is crying out for a decent Uncharted clone, and I'm sorry you guys aren't getting it.
Add in Todd's involvement after the train wreck that's Starfield and I'm worried for this game. The story is going to be an incoherent shit show.
I'll be honest, when he said John WIlliams I got pumped, but even that lead to a let down.
First person is not for this, it will turn into a generic shooter that will be forgotten when the nostalgia glasses fall off.
I have a feeling this will get a third person mode patched in at some point.
We all know xbox is crying out for a decent Uncharted clone, and I'm sorry you guys aren't getting it.
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