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Introduction to MOBAs
- Thread starter SteveWinwood
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Give Malphite a try. He's tanky like Garen, but his ultimate makes him better in teamfights. Honestly, just keep trying the free champions out that look interesting to you. The more you play, the better your feel will be for who you like playing.
Generally, you'll want 3 or more champions that you can be comfortable with at each role. You can get away with less, but it's easier to have plenty of options in case you get countered or have to face a champion that can give you a rough time.
I also have all the "cheap" champions as well if there is someone in there, also I think I was gifted Cho'Gath
SteveWinwood
Member
wait did wings not make it
wings?
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
SteveWinwood
Member
like there was a team named wings
theyre my summoner icon
because i thought they were paul mccartney sponsored
edit i looked it up and it was
did they suck or something
im really sad now this is like finding out that lemondogs isnt a team anymore
theyre my summoner icon
because i thought they were paul mccartney sponsored
edit i looked it up and it was
those guys
did they suck or something
im really sad now this is like finding out that lemondogs isnt a team anymore
Schweinehund
Member
Coincidentally around Dota 2's massive update, Infinite Crisis just had a huge update based on player feedback
http://www.infinitecrisis.com/en/news/september-update-release-notes
Main points are:
Graphics redone
Ui Redone
Animation rework to make things move smoother
Role changes/Character Changes
2 New Heroes
http://www.infinitecrisis.com/en/news/september-update-release-notes
Main points are:
Graphics redone
Ui Redone
Animation rework to make things move smoother
Role changes/Character Changes
2 New Heroes
Schweinehund
Member
all MOBA players are friends until they play a game together.
lol so true
Finaika
Member
I love it, been playing for months now XD
shira
Member
Isn't Gearbox launching a MOBA, but they want the media to call it a shooter as to not be lumped in with all the MOBA wannabees
I really enjoy IC. I wish more people played it. At the same time I find it really hard to heavily invest in the game myself or recommend it to others because I hate, hate, HATE 1. the lol business model, and 2. rune/mod systems. I feel like both of those things break a MOBA, but I have been horribly, irreparably spoiled by Dota.
It's nice that Turbine is being a lot better about offering a wide variety of their champs for free but there's no value proposition there that will convince my Dota crew to play it with me. It continues to be a game that I just jump into occasionally for a few casual, solo queue Gotham Heights games. I'm still really afraid for the game. It has a tiny userbase and Turbine has been hit by layoffs in the past. They are putting a lot of work into making the game look and run well but I don't think "League with DC characters" is a strong enough sale for most MOBA players.
It's nice that Turbine is being a lot better about offering a wide variety of their champs for free but there's no value proposition there that will convince my Dota crew to play it with me. It continues to be a game that I just jump into occasionally for a few casual, solo queue Gotham Heights games. I'm still really afraid for the game. It has a tiny userbase and Turbine has been hit by layoffs in the past. They are putting a lot of work into making the game look and run well but I don't think "League with DC characters" is a strong enough sale for most MOBA players.
Yep. Really impressed by the update. I like how some of the community has been complaining about it being too responsive, personally I think it's fine.
Honestly I can't think of what hasn't been changed in the update.
I want to say really hard.
Even on Gaf as soon as a game is shown off for the first time I'll always see something along the lines of "Oh wow... another moba."
Pinko Marx
Banned
Depends on seven factors; developer pedigree, if you're building off an existing IP or several, and what unique hooks your game has.
I believe there's still room for new MOBAs out there but I think the "traditional" MOBA space is all taken up by the big two and the few smaller ones. Heroes of the Storm will definitely find its audience tho.
Finaika
Member
What's wrong with the mod system?
I think it's fine tbh, the game gives you default amps if you don't want to bother with it.
Yeah, but I'm not too confident about that. Even if the game's a success I don't know if gearbox understands the importance of post-launch support especially with these kind of games.
Lets be honest though. We do that for everything. It just depends on what you think is overloading the market. You'll still see users complaining about too much fps' when a new one is announced regardless of how popular the genre is.
Not to certain about heroes of the storm. I think Strife fits the "casual" niche for this genre so I'd be expecting people who would be picking up HoTS to do it for the Blizzard characters but then I don't know how many would want to do so in a more casual setting (not sure that someone who plays starcraft would drop it for heroes sums it up).
And its not really that popular online either with 155 total viewers on twitch at the time of this post's writing.
With that particular one? Nothing. With mod systems in general? I feel like they add an undue level of grinding in order to make marginal adjustments to hero stats that punishes people that don't want to invest the time into exploiting them, yet aren't sufficiently rewarding enough for people that do.
Schweinehund
Member
I'm still downloading the IC & Dota 2 patch on my crappy DSL so I haven't had a chance to try out either games. IC still hasn't launched yet so it could get a sizable userbase, I'd think anything hovering above 1 million as a F2P game would be considered a success. They should try to do as many skin/promotional pack-ins as possible though, with Arkham Knight, Steam, Shadows of Mordor, whatever they can get their hands on as soon as they're satisfied with user feedback.
This is true of basically ever developer these days though. Valve is basically the only dev with a track record of consistently supporting their games(for free) for the long term. Blizzard also used to qualify, but I'm not sure any more given how long it took them to fix D3 and how long it took them to adjust SC2 balance in the face of fairly substantial issues. I guess better late then never, so you can count them if you want.
Riot basically has to support LoL, as it's all they have.
Will a company other than Valve and Blizzard that has other projects going on be able to maintain focus on long term support even if they can't directly monetize it?
Back in the day I would have maybe trusted the old id software and maybe epic, but even then, supporting a moba long term is a completely different thing from supporting a shooter long term.
This is a similar thing that has kept me completely disinterested in Dawngate, because I know for a fact EA does not have the attention span to keep supporting a game long term.
Finaika
Member
I really hope IC will do well.
I dunno, I kinda consider open beta as good as launched at this point. I'm not sure what can happen between now and them just deciding to call it a fully launched game that would significantly increase its userbase. I do see it marketed a lot (ads on Twitch, appearances at all the major gaming conventions, etc) yet the playerbase remains low and queue times remain high. They have implemented a ranked matchmaking system into the game with the new patch but they don't have the playerbase to support its activation. Same with the third map in the game, Coast City. It's only available in private match modes because they don't have the players to split into so many different matchmaking queues.
Schweinehund
Member
It's grown to be pretty good throughout the beta, the alpha was mediocre but I mean that was alpha.
Yeah I think with this latest patch this will be the launch version. The game looks so much better and responds well. They should push hard, it's unfortunate they don't have a DC movie to piggy back the hype onto. I'd suggest anyone who tried it in beta to comeback at launch, a lot of the big issues were addressed.
Turbine taking some shit for the new, douchey SoCal Hal costume. I think this shit's hilarious.
http://kotaku.com/do-you-even-green-lantern-bro-no-1644040710
http://kotaku.com/do-you-even-green-lantern-bro-no-1644040710
SteveWinwood
Member
Those clothes fit Hal Jordan perfectly.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Well shit, even I didn't expect them to give in this quickly.
I don't know who would ever trust an EA run multiplayer game given their track record, and I don't know how they expect to ever gain that trust doing things the way they do.
It's easy to point a finger at EA but I think they were probably well justified in pulling the plug on this one. There are a LOT of MOBAs coming out and it's going to be a mad dash for table scraps for any of them that aren't LoL/Dota (and maybe Smite because that's doing its own thing). Dawngate honestly seemed like it was doing some neat things from a gameplay perspective, but the game didn't have much of a visual identity that set it apart from the big 2. Nothing about it catered to a particular niche, which is where I think there is even a possibility for B-tier MOBAs to thrive.