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According to players, most of these problems occur mainly when the game has been selected to run in performance mode, which offers 60 FPS.

In this mode, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth's resolution drops drastically in order for the game to maintain its frame rate (60 FPS). Many believed that the visual problems were due to the low resolution, but it seems that the problem is more serious than it seems, according to John Linneman of Digital Foundry.

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[Roxkis_ii]

Final fantasy StarField edition with them faces. Jesus.

Man, I'm super pro 60 fps on console, but the visuals even had me questioning if it was worth it.

 

[Elios83]

Graphics mode is the way to go until PS5 Pro.

 

[Whitecrow]

PS5s will be ashamed of running this game.

And no. Popin and bad textures are also present in graphics mode. In the graphics department, this game cannot be saved.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Ffs

This is the shit I don't want to hear. Hopefully it's fixed for launch but ff xvi was never fixed.

I might wait the 3 months for the PC version

 

[Skifi28]

1440p is a great resolution for performance mode and the framerate is very stable. It's everything else that's fucked.

 

[Elios83]

Ffs

This is the shit I don't want to hear. Hopefully it's fixed for launch but ff xvi was never fixed.

I might wait the 3 months for the PC version

Lol there won't be any PC version in 3 months.

 

[Danjin44]

My Deluxe edition…

/s

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Maybe the demo build is old cuz John also pointed out this.

 

[Spyxos]

Just select the 30 fps mode.

 

[cormack12]

If res is that high, it gives me hope they will fix it. But low poly assets as well as blurry textures on a 50gb demo is not good.

I have too much to.play so this will not be a day 1 for me anyway. I just hope they iron out the issues before I buy.

 

[Facism]

Whether you pick graphics or performance, the texturing and messy geometry is still amateur as fuck. Wouldn't look out of place on ps4

 

[DenchDeckard]

Lol there won't be any PC version in 3 months.

Oh, I thought it was coming in may?

Must have got confused

 

[Skifi28]

Just choose 30 fps mode.

Character models during gameplay look very weird regardless of framerate. If anything, the blurry 60fps mode protects you from seeing how bad they really look.

 

[Fabieter]

Ffs

This is the shit I don't want to hear. Hopefully it's fixed for launch but ff xvi was never fixed.

I might wait the 3 months for the PC version

It's ff xvi turn before they do ff vii rebirth. Xvi had six month exclusivity but its still not on pc.

 

[Elios83]

Oh, I thought it was coming in may?

Must have got confused

Nope that's the end of the exclusivity contract with Sony, not when Square Enix will be ready to release the game elsewhere which looking at what happened with both FF7R and FFXVI won't be soon.

 

[adamsapple]

Whether you pick graphics or performance, the texturing and messy geometry is still amateur as fuck. Wouldn't look out of place on ps4

Bro, don't fucking diss the PS4 like that lol. PS4 had tons of massive open world games with higher quality assets.

This is a Square development pipeline issue. You'd think they'd have a hang of Unreal 4 after so many years by now.

Maybe the demo build is old cuz John also pointed out this.

We all said the same thing last year about Forspoken's demo that came out a month before its release, but that was also a chunk from the final game.

 

[Spyxos]

Whether you pick graphics or performance, the texturing and messy geometry is still amateur as fuck. Wouldn't look out of place on ps4

Really so bad? I downloaded the demo, but since I haven't finished F16 yet, I didn't get around to it.

 

[Fabieter]

I wouldn't be shocked if the build of the demo is older. Imo demos more often than not aint good at actually selling the game. It would be good idea for sqaure to stop doing them.

 

[Fbh]

If they can fix the awful blurriness in the performance mode I honestly don't care about the rest.

John from digital foundry said it's actually running at 1440p but the post processing is fucked. Hopefully they can get it sorted out by launch

 

[Fabieter]

If they can fix the awful blurriness in the performance mode I honestly don't care about the rest.

John from digital foundry said it's actually running at 1440p but the post processing is fucked. Hopefully they can get it sorted out by launch

This! People are overreacting because its soo cool to shit ok final fantasy these days!

 

[Madflavor]

I'll repeat what I said in another thread, but given the fact they made Rebirth in 4 years, and the sheer scale and amount of content in the game, I don't think any of this is surprising at all. Getting this game looking truly next gen and polishing it up as best as possible, realistically would've taken them at least a couple more years. They probably made the very deliberate decision to not spend 6-7 years on each new entry of this trilogy, and cut some corners. Otherwise you'd be looking at 15-20 years total for the development and release of the VII Remake Trilogy.

That said, I think the launch version of the game will be improved in *some* capacity. The demo is very likely an older builder because that's usually just how it works, and as is usually the case there will likely be a Day 1 patch also. There's probably a few different versions to the game between Launch and this Demo Build. That being said I'm not expecting a night and day difference, and neither should you.

 

[Kilau]

I didn’t have any of the textures issues so maybe it’s a bug. I specifically looked for bad textures because of the infamous door. Cloud face can definitely look funny but nothing detracted from the experience, I’m ready for the full game.

 

[Skifi28]

We all said the same thing last year about Forspoken's demo that came out a month before its release, but that was also a chunk from the final game.

Image quality in performance mode is a likely improvement since it's not a resolution issue. Everything else.... Yeah, I don't think so. At least the gameplay was solid, I guess.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

The illumination is also strange, with some nuclear brightness in the sky when you place the character at the entrance of any building. This happened in the previous game too.

Anyway, the art direction is amazing and makes up for these minor issues. Localization in other languages is a more serious matter, it's about time Square and other Japanese developers ask for serious explanations of what the fuck translators are doing.

 

[JimboJones]

Noticed the image quality straight away, quite blurry on performance mode, ghosting from upscaling is pretty apparent.
Still 60fps is the way to go, 30 seemed quite stuttery even for a 30fps game but that could just the effect of switching back and forth from 60 but I did look sharper.
Pick your poison I guess!

 

[Fabieter]

The illumination is also strange, with some nuclear brightness in the sky when you place the character at the entrance of any building. This happened in the previous game too.

Anyway, the art direction is amazing and makes up for these minor issues. Localization in other languages is a more serious matter, it's about time Square and other Japanese developers ask for serious explanations of what the fuck translators are doing.

They should just go on with the Rockstar route of not dub their games at all.

 

[adamsapple]

Image quality in performance mode is a likely improvement since it's not a resolution problem. Everything else.... Yeah, I don't think so. At least the gameplay was solid, I guess.

John is saying 1440p, but NXGamer's tweet is saying 1080p (well, he says '1080p is not the problem', likely in reference to the low resolution not being the only problem)

Post process is done in half/quarter resolutions as a resource saving measure, you can't tell me Square couldn't push more out of the hardware using UE4 than this ... if that's the case, maybe they should have stuck to Luminous.

 

[Minsc]

You know what, I really don't give a shit about these visual errors.

The fact that the game actually fucking runs at 60fps and not 20fps like in FFXVI's performance mode is all that matters.

 

[Imtjnotu]

It's a demo

 

[hinch7]

Lol there won't be any PC version in 3 months.

Epic first maybe with a year or two, then steam a year after :/

 

[Clear]

Picks the mode that favours visual fidelity for performance then complains about the drop in resolution... Fucking spare me!

Its also a demo, which should be an opportunity to talk about the game not just the graphics, and yet here we are again.

 

[ManaByte]

Maybe the demo build is old cuz John also pointed out this.

It's like Forspoken, it's a chunk of the final game. You can even skip the demo portion of the full game if you complete the demo.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

It's like Forspoken, it's a chunk of the final game. You can even skip the demo portion of the full game if you complete the demo.

I played the demo so I'm aware.

 

[Minsc]

Also screw the PS5. For the console that was supposed to be the next coming of Christ with its hardware that made PCs look like a waste of money it aged the same as any other console. A few years in to its life and already struggling on too many games.

This shit is just a more expensive Switch.

 

[adamsapple]

Picks the mode that favours visual fidelity for performance then complains about the drop in resolution... Fucking spare me!

oopsie.

 

[//DEVIL//]

If this doesn't get fixed day one patch I am not gonna buy it.
I won't play below 60 fps and these graphics are scary shit.

 

[Skifi28]

Also screw the PS5. For the console that was supposed to be the next coming of Christ with its hardware that made PCs look like a waste of money it aged the same as any other console. A few years in to its life and already struggling on too many games.

This shit is just a more expensive Switch.

There are so many things wrong with this post I don't even know where to start.

 

[adamsapple]

They're also not using a 4K UI in the Graphics mode. Some real amateur hour shit from Square.

 

[Hrk69]

Keep pre-ordering guys!

 

[mrcroket]

Man these textures are what you would expect from an open world... in the ps3 era.

 

[Gambit2483]

Umm It's a demo. Not the final product.

Can people at least wait until these problems appear in the final product before freaking out?

 

[xion4360]

it definitely has some poor lighting and textures in spots but overall I think its very attractive considering the size and scope of the game, and looks better than the first game. Especially with geometry and foliage.

IMO the weak spots are the trees animate very robotically and small foliage doesnt react at all unlike the first trailer, and some of the mid and far field detail is rather poor. There's also quite a bit of pop-in
I think the character models looks very nice and generally it looks very nice. for part 3 they should use UE5 nanite to fix the pop in issues and have better details. maybe lumen for lighting if they can manage it.

 

[yurinka]

I completed the demo and I don't know what these folks are talking about (1080p tv here).

 

[Yoshichan]

A day 1 AAA Square game that's a technical mess? Color me shocked! SHOCKED, I tell you!

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Umm It's a demo. Not the final product.

Can people at least wait until these problems appear in the final product before freaking out?

Well, It's Gaf.

 

[tommycronin]

 

[Clear]

oopsie.

Just confirms my opinion that demos simply aren't worth the hassle.

No matter how many times the dev or publisher stresses that a demo is likely to contain bugs and visual imperfections not present in the final release, too many noisy individuals completely ignore this very important point and go chicken little on the internet, undermining the additional effort.

 

[Krappadizzle]

 

[LordCBH]

I played in graphics mode and didn’t notice any of that. As far as control responsiveness in the graphics mode, felt great. Definitely how I’ll be playing.

The one thing I did notice though was pop in.