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This game is the first that makes me wish I had a PS5.
Same. Looks really great!
Not going to switch for this game, but am still very impressed
This game is the first that makes me wish I had a PS5.
If last gen can't run with all bells and whistles, how it is a last gen game?It's absolutely a last gen tethered game running with all the bells and whistles on a RTX3090 that costs 3x as much as a PS5 / Xbox Series X.
I don't remember seeing people saying that Cyberpunk is next gen. Also, one can't even say this, the game is is development since Witcher III days and there was no development kit back thenYou dont understand polygon resolutions, any graphics artist understands what im saying, the environments arent simple in poly counts theres nothing low poly here that is absurd., unreal 5 is hyper real so the environments are meant to lool realistic, this game is aimomg for a cartoony cgi pixar look doesnt meant its low poly, can you show me any sharp edges in the pictures ive posted?
for reference this is what i mean by high poly vs low poly
The more polygons you keep adding or the more you subdivide thr monkeys edges the more smooth it becomes. The more the memory the more the processing, before only films could have complex poly counts in every object.
and here is cyberpunk, known as the! nextgen game on pc
As you can see highlited are polygon edges, the objects in cyberpunk are made of average polycounts something you see in alll games out there doesnt matter the whatever graphical effects on top of the games whether its raytracing or what but the poly counts are always average its only ratchet and clank thats this smooth. Look at how well rounded that entrance is! Theres no edges.
Look even at this characters outfit the circular things are smooth as butter you only see this in cgi films or pre remdered cutscenes this is the polygonal quality im talking about. Its phenomenal developers would never add such polygon complexity on things you can easily overlook but they just throw polygons on everything in this game its incredible.
While it most def will, you really don't understand what youre sayingDamn really? Hope my PC will catch up at some point. I really need to upgrade my SSD to a super SSD then.
DF did say it (PC version of course).I don't remember seeing people saying that Cyberpunk is next gen.
It isnt on consoles whether on series x, ps5 or ps4, there is literally only the last gen versions of the game. Streaming issue, low res textures, no rt, shit pop in.I love ratchet (it is one of if not my favorite franchise) and can't wait to play, but you lost me at Cyberpunk isnt next gen.
Well digital foundry called it the first trully nextgen game. As youve already known anything on pc to alex is nextgen even if it isnt simply because you can crank up toggles tp ultra on the settings bar as if that can magically make anything nextgen. The quality of production and using nextgen features/engines from start to finish is what makes a game nextgen.I don't remember seeing people saying that Cyberpunk is next gen. Also, one can't even say this, the game is is development since Witcher III days and there was no development kit back then
If last gen can't run with all bells and whistles, how it is a last gen game?
Because graphics don't determine gens. Mega Drive games were not that far removed from Master System games, but the overall gaming capabilities were enhanced many times over. Cyberpunk 2077 is a last gen game, with last gen design. and a poor one at that, as it copies tons of games while making those systems somehow worse (quantity over quality).
If you think graphics determine generational leaps... oh boy.
Example of next gen game, not possible in last gen hardware - new R&C game
Example of last gen game running with bells and whistles on new gen hardware (not necessarily consoles) - Cyberpunk, Spiderman MM
Edit
Here's a game from 2 gens ago running with bells and whistles via modding. Are you gonna argue GTA V is a next gen title?
It comes from this in the great inanimate object and brand war,The whole “gameplay determines gen” thing people are running with in response to Returnal and this is.... very silly. Where did this come from? Feels like this take was invented this week.
The snobbery over gameplay seems bizarre to me. “This is last generation gameplay” is just, lol, no. It is a bad take.
Cyberpunk is a last gen game despite only running decently on current gen? Ok. Someone tried telling me Dark Souls 3 was a PS2 style game yesterday. Y’all are making zero sense.
No. I would say there is no such thing as last gen or current gen game. What gen is World of Warcraft, for example?
Like what? Well, CP2077 is also not a console game. It was down ported to them.So you're moving the goalpost, right? Great. On PC, I kind of agree with you. On consoles? There's absolutely fundamental diferences between gens, especially from a game design perspective.
The only thing I don't like about his face fur this time around, at least around his mouth and chin, is that it looks a bit too fuzzy, like they wanted to give him a gruffy beard but couldn't decide on how to do it.This shot is insane. Look at the perceived self shadowing in the fur on his ears. Reminds me of the UE5 demo with all those polys being self lit and shadowed.
The only thing I don't like about his face fur this time around, at least around his mouth and chin, is that it looks a bit too fuzzy, like they wanted to give him a gruffy beard but couldn't decide on how to do it.
Here's Ratchet 2016 for comparison:
Cleaner fur around the mouth and chin looks better to me as a design/artistic choice. Aside from that, graphically the new one obviously looks better in every other way.
Hey man I don't wanna derail or destroy your thread. I'll leave, no worries! Power of the SSD is just a thing thats too complicated for me man, I'm glad you know it so well.
Damn really? Hope my PC will catch up at some point. I really need to upgrade my SSD to a super SSD then.
I love ratchet (it is one of if not my favorite franchise) and can't wait to play, but you lost me at Cyberpunk isnt next gen.
I'm sorry but... whut ? There is no "consideration", a game run at a certain frame and that's it.
Listen I'm just stating that IMO, this R&C should run at 60 frames per seconds nothing more, nothing less since I don't think it's as impressive as it could be.
That's it. I'm not saying it's ugly or anything.
He wants to help me understand the power of SSD's mate. (Thanks btw) I learned alot now. Thinking of selling my 3080 and get a console instead. Probably go with SXS as I think their solution will be better in the long run.
Like what? Well, CP2077 is also not a console game. It was down ported to them.
So it was released for consoles but its not a console game? Your arguments just keep getting better.
You always develop for the lowest common denominator, not the highest. So it is very much a console game.
So witcher 3 was developed for the switch?
Outer Worlds, Doom Eternal were developed for Switch ? They were ported just a few months after launch. And to be honest, it is kinda the same for CP2077, the game is just starting to be decent on consoles several months after the release, still with some heavy cuts all around.Was Witcher 3 released concurrently on the switch? Or was it downported years later?
Also, Is Witcher 3 a CPU bound or GPU bound game?
You can keep on ignoring the facts and moving goalposts, it doesn't make you right.
Outer Worlds, Doom Eternal were developed for Switch ? They were ported just a few months after launch. And to be honest, it is kinda the same for CP2077, the game is just starting to be decent on consoles several months after the release, still with some heavy cuts all around.
And CP is an "all components" something bound game on PS4 & Xbox, mostly CPU, RAM and HDD limited. It is a sub 900p game at 25ish FPS on PS4 with still some hiccups and lagging. It is very clear it was not primarly developed with last gen specs in mind, and it shows. The difference between the PC prime version (even with RTX off) and the console one is as stark as the one between The witcher 3 PS4 and switch version, if not even more.
Because graphics don't determine gens. Mega Drive games were not that far removed from Master System games, but the overall gaming capabilities were enhanced many times over. Cyberpunk 2077 is a last gen game, with last gen design. and a poor one at that, as it copies tons of games while making those systems somehow worse (quantity over quality).
If you think graphics determine generational leaps... oh boy.
Example of next gen game, not possible in last gen hardware - new R&C game
Example of last gen game running with bells and whistles on new gen hardware (not necessarily consoles) - Cyberpunk, Spiderman MM
Edit
Here's a game from 2 gens ago running with bells and whistles via modding. Are you gonna argue GTA V is a next gen title?