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Scorpio.

Should statham be allowed to return to NeoGAF after his grandstanding account suicide in 2017?

  • Yes

    Votes: 63 34.1%
  • No

    Votes: 49 26.5%
  • If he begs

    Votes: 73 39.5%

  • Total voters
    185

plushyp

Member
After lurking for 1.5 years I joined here back in 2016 when things were at their worst. At that time, the majority of active users with clout were terrible people who weren't here to discuss but just preach their word as gospel of the highest order. Topics were filled with the "my way or the highway" sort of discussions where those users in cahoots with the mods at the time would ban bait others whose viewpoints did not match theirs. Further it was honestly very tiring to post here because their mocking/preaching really didn't help produce discussions of value and they were only here to insult you or "argue" in bad faith. After the exodus things massively changed for the better and for the first time, I could actually post on NG and engage in actual discussions.

Now if all of them come back here by the tons, things will just revert back to that era (pun intended) and there's only so much the new moderation team can do. While a few users in this topic made a good point about people changing over the years, the bad bunch that left have only further regressed from what I see. Out of the willingly/unwillingly banned RE refugees, about 90% that have joined/rejoined here have done so with bad intentions. Thankfully the majority of the remaining ones have been good so there's that. Best to err on the side of caution.
 

Gargus

Banned
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
We are all pathetic nerds though. This is an internet forum. Let's not take this too seriously. That was exactly the problem they had. They took this as a community and as a social platform way too seriously and thought they could use it to change the world.

I couldn't care less if Hitler, Pol Pot and Stalin came here to talk about video games and stir shit on the Politics forum as long as they don't become mods.

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kbear

Member
I look at this from a more practical point of view -- this place needs more traffic. The only thing REE has over GAF is traffic. I still read REE simply because it's a good news aggregate due to how much traffic it gets. GAF used to be the same way. Because of that, letting this guy and others back in shouldn't even be up for debate, imo. Even the ones who posted porn account suicides should be let back in if they say they won't do it again. Take them for their word and if they do it again or are obvious trolls trying to get a rise out of the community, simply perm the account. Start them off on thin ice.

The identity this place has formed over the past year isn't going to diminish if you let these people back in because the staff / leadership is what ultimately cultivates the identity of a community like this, just like how REE's staff cultivated an insane asylum (same with the Bish and Besada types from pre-REE GAF). Just my opinion.
 
I always saw statham as an obvious huge Xbox fanboy. However his posts on here were always light hearted and overall harmless. Some of the over the top fanboys have genuine malice in their posts and that was never him. Let him back I say.

Although all the normal people at reeeeeera should just come back anyway on your ‘own terms’, not waiting until you get a perma ban before returning. That’s weak!

Also - I propose an official system wars thread for the loonies to argue in. Then promote better conversation in all the other threads 👌
 
"Pattern of (hateful/racist/etc)" got to be the cowardly way to say "I want to ban you because I felt like it".

It's the best when you can actually look and see there is no pattern, it's just a way to hand-wave it away and expect no one to actually look deeper.
 

MudoSkills

Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
For the sake of full disclosure I'm back after being permed on Era as well - although I didn't shit the bed on my way out of Gaf, and felt that everyone really jumped the gun. It's more that the two community threads I was involved with jumped ship, so I jumped with them. Sorry.

For all the comments about harsh moderation here (and accepting that there was a lot of bullshit) I've never racked up a single infraction here, whereas I got three warnings/suspensions on Era for making a school shooter joke, a joke about a failed airport bombing (nobody hurt, letter bomb that didn't even go off) and, lastly two weeks for saying just 'All cops' in a TaySan thread where he was telling the mods they were doing a good job. I thought that was bullshit, and got permed for making an alt so I could follow the DJMax thread and a couple of others while suspended.

Edit: as for the pattern comment, the reason my second suspension was so long was for a 'history of similar infractions' - meaning the one previous warning.
 
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EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
For the sake of full disclosure I'm back after being permed on Era as well - although I didn't shit the bed on my way out of Gaf, and felt that everyone really jumped the gun. It's more that the two community threads I was involved with jumped ship, so I jumped with them. Sorry.

For all the comments about harsh moderation here (and accepting that there was a lot of bullshit) I've never racked up a single infraction here, whereas I got three warnings/suspensions on Era for making a school shooter joke, a joke about a failed airport bombing (nobody hurt, letter bomb that didn't even go off) and, lastly two weeks for saying just 'All cops' in a TaySan thread where he was telling the mods they were doing a good job. I thought that was bullshit, and got permed for making an alt so I could follow the DJMax thread and a couple of others while suspended.

Edit: as for the pattern comment, the reason my second suspension was so long was for a 'history of similar infractions' - meaning the one previous warning.

It's a free country, no worries. This call out is entirely because of the account suicide OP back in 2017, when everyone was doing garbage like this to disrupt all discussions and try to drive GAF into the ground.
 

ManaByte

Member
The guy that shits on GAF on his twitter every chance he gets is now back? Y’all might as well just unban everyone.

To be fair, I think he was mostly talking about how it was back in 2013 when innocent Xbox posters were being banned and labeled "astroturfers" by a former mod.
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
The forum needs all the traffic it can get.
People keep saying this, but I don’t agree.

GAF is currently in a sweet spot. Activity is good. Plenty of new threads/news. Threads move fast enough. We are lacking very little.

I feel like the people longing for more activity are mostly REEEfugees addicted to the lightning speed threads with one word posts and little to no substance or proper conversation.

I don’t want that back. REEE can have that autism bullshit.
 

Winter John

Gold Member
People keep saying this, but I don’t agree.

GAF is currently in a sweet spot. Activity is good. Plenty of new threads/news. Threads move fast enough. We are lacking very little.

I feel like the people longing for more activity are mostly REEEfugees addicted to the lightning speed threads with one word posts and little to no substance or proper conversation.

I don’t want that back. REEE can have that autism bullshit.

Fortunately you don't get to say who can or can't post here.
 

TaySan

Banned
People keep saying this, but I don’t agree.

GAF is currently in a sweet spot. Activity is good. Plenty of new threads/news. Threads move fast enough. We are lacking very little.

I feel like the people longing for more activity are mostly REEEfugees addicted to the lightning speed threads with one word posts and little to no substance or proper conversation.

I don’t want that back. REEE can have that autism bullshit.
You guys can be better than this.
 

Mista

Banned
We’d rather have traffic starting to build up slowly but greatly than have an insane build up where half of them will be banned later on

You’re out of your mind if you think GAF is very desperate for traffic and proves to me that you know dogshit about how the site been developing

Here look at this, maybe you’ll stop throwing stupid comments when obviously you don’t know DOGSHIT about GAF. Don’t talk about shit you don’t know anything about. Thanks!

 

nush

Member
Scopa Scopa I held off posting that one too. Funny how on a slow news day like today the most active Era trolls all descended on one topic, on Era. Pure coincidence of course. Of course.
 

Winter John

Gold Member
More traffic. More people. More views. More exchanges of ideas. These are all good things. I want to see more active community threads. More active music threads. I love musical instruments. I can't play any worth a shit but I like reading stuff from people who can. More active threads from people in other countries. I travel round S.A every chance I get. It's good to get information from the locals down there. For that to happen Gaf needs more traffic and I'm sure it'll come.
 

haxan7

Volunteered as Tribute
So you're an asshole. Gotcha.
Once again you guys can be better than this.
Calling Scopa Scopa an asshole?

you’re just trying to sow discord here. If you have an actual point you want us to pay attention to, you have to present it with the civility and respect you’d give to people you’re talking to face to face.
 
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