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Scorpio.

Should statham be allowed to return to NeoGAF after his grandstanding account suicide in 2017?

  • Yes

    Votes: 63 34.1%
  • No

    Votes: 49 26.5%
  • If he begs

    Votes: 73 39.5%

  • Total voters
    185
There was a lot of shit going on at that time. I never understood the account suicides with the posting of porn, the angry bullshit that was being posted demanding accounts to be closed.

It is hard to take people like that seriously when they want to have adult conversations about the world and that is their reaction to what was happening then. I am all for people wanting to come back to be a part of the community here at GAF but why demand an account closure or do the so called epic account suicide. Be a responsible person and just walk away if it is too much to handle and perhaps collect ones thoughts before joining everyone else on some mass exodus.
 

nush

Member
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He's consistently doing the same thing in the same themed topics reeelated. Obviously not a troll though...
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
In all fairness, maybe tossing around autism as an insult isn't the best form. There are other ways to get your point across without using it. I've been guilty of doing it and it's something I'm working on avoiding.

Not trying to single you out by the way, Scopa Scopa
I was laughing at the “my only social life is Era” more than the autism.

I can’t take someone seriously that is that pathetic.
 

TaySan

Banned
Calling Scopa Scopa an asshole?

you’re just trying to sow discord here. If you have an actual point you want us to pay attention to, you have to present it with the civility and respect you’d give to people you’re talking to face to face.
Then why don't you tell your buddies do the same to me? Do you see me digging up personal shit about you guys and posting them for all the internet to see? I presented my point clearly which was to stop using autism as an insult. As clearly that Is something sensitive to me as someone on the spectrum. And obviously Era threads interest me because *gasp* I'm an Era member.

Like I started this thread saying he should just be let back in and then I get attacked. I didn't drew first blood.
 
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haxan7

Volunteered as Tribute
Then why don't you tell your buddies do the same to me? Do you see me digging up personal shit about you guys and posting them for all the internet to see? I presented my point clearly which was to stop using autism as an insult. As clearly that Is something sensitive to me as someone on the spectrum. And obviously Era threads interest me because *gasp* I'm an Era member.
You can’t tell people not to laugh at something because it’s sensitive to you. That’s not how life works. Some people will be happy to play into your sense of victimhood, but a lot of people are going to do what they want regardless of how much you whine and moan.

You should learn to laugh at yourself so others don’t have to. Do you want to go through life as a whiner or as a winner? The choice is yours.
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
Then why don't you tell your buddies do the same to me? Do you see me digging up personal shit about you guys and posting them for all the internet to see? I presented my point clearly which was to stop using autism as an insult. As clearly that Is something sensitive to me as someone on the spectrum. And obviously Era threads interest me because *gasp* I'm an Era member.
I didn’t dig anything up. That screenshot was already out in the ether. Your exceptionalism has been noticed by more than me. Blame yourself and don’t play the victim.

If your only social life is ResetEra, you need to get your shit sorted instead of telling other people to “be better”. It means nothing coming from you.
 
I presented my point clearly which was to stop using autism as an insult. As clearly that Is something sensitive to me as someone on the spectrum.
If I read something here that triggers me (being 5 8, it's usually the heightism stuff), I usually try to make a joke about it, instead of whining and telling people to be more sensitive, or (most horrible) expecting the mods to ban people because of that.

In the spirit of this forum.
 

Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
If I read something here that triggers me (being 5 8, it's usually the heightism stuff), I usually try to make a joke about it, instead of whining and telling people to be more sensitive, or (most horrible) expecting the mods to ban people because of that.

In the spirit of this forum.
I wish I knew you in real life. You could pick things up off the ground for me since you're so much closer.
 
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RiccochetJ

Gold Member
Well, I see they're unbanned so I'll be curious to see if they start posting.

Honestly, I don't ever recall this particular user being part of the psycho troop that took over OT leading up to the eventual blow up. Everything I remember about them was all about the gaming side and Xbox! Still, making a thread about leaving was stupid and an ego stroke. I much prefer the people who silently took a hiatus and then just one day started posting here again.

I mean, this person has been around here since 2010 so they should know that getting a good slap upside the head by EviLore EviLore and not getting banned (let alone unbanned) is a bit of a badge of honor.

Still, seeing some of the responses here, I hope that their first post isn't going to be a complete dogpile.
 

RiccochetJ

Gold Member
The truth? What’s wrong with the truth?
Nothing wrong with the truth Scopa Scopa , just the underlying incence/anger. And there's nothing wrong with feeling that either. I just don't want the pendulum to swing drastically the other way.

That will only be the case if they attempt to bring their REEE-style screeching bullshit over here. If they behave like a normal human being, I am sure they will be treated like one.
Agreed. If they try and resurrect what OT used to be before the break, I promise you that I will be the first one to do a belly flop onto the dogpile.
 
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Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
Nothing wrong with the truth Scopa Scopa , just the underlying incence/anger. And there's nothing wrong with feeling that either. I just don't want the pendulum to swing drastically the other way.


Agreed. If they try and resurrect what OT used to be before the break, I promise you that I will be the first one to do a belly flop onto the dogpile.
I agree, but I think you are mistaking my lack of respect for mouth-breathers with anger. I am not angry, I just call idiots, idiots.

Anyone who gets brainwashed into a cult is stupid. Anyone who follows the herd because they have no self respect and can’t think for themselves is pathetic. That is my opinion, not anger. More disgust than anger, really.
 

Papa

Banned
Heed my warning: don’t listen to the equalisers. They play on your empathy and guilt you with feelings but they lay the foundation for screechers to take root and spread their cancer. It’s just a function of time and incremental culture change. You won’t even notice the slow creep then bam you’re overrun again. Give them another chance and let them back in but make them earn their way back up the social hierarchy. Don’t just lay a welcome mat out and tell them they’re “equal” (whatever the fuck that even means) from the start.
 

RiccochetJ

Gold Member
I agree, but I think you are mistaking my lack of respect for mouth-breathers with anger. I am not angry, I just call idiots, idiots.

Anyone who gets brainwashed into a cult is stupid. Anyone who follows the herd because they have no self respect and can’t think for themselves is pathetic. That is my opinion, not anger. More disgust than anger, really.
I think there's a bit more nuance to what a person goes through with their decision making and following the crowd, but you have a point.

However, maybe anger is a too strong of a word for you, but when you use the words mouth-breathers, idiots, brainwashed, cult, stupid, pathetic, and disgust, I'm feeling confident that your opinion of them is a teeny tiny bit more than indifference or dismissal ;)

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Heed my warning: don’t listen to the equalisers. They play on your empathy and guilt you with feelings but they lay the foundation for screechers to take root and spread their cancer. It’s just a function of time and incremental culture change. You won’t even notice the slow creep then bam you’re overrun again. Give them another chance and let them back in but make them earn their way back up the social hierarchy. Don’t just lay a welcome mat out and tell them they’re “equal” (whatever the fuck that even means) from the start.

Not sure if that was directed towards me Papa Papa , but in no way am I absolving what was done. I fully expect this particular person to be on a very short leash by the mod team and I fully expect a cool reception by those of us who stuck around. At the same time, I am vehemently against outright hostility to someone who wants to come back and contribute honestly and in good faith.

Edit2: And let's be honest here Papa Papa . After everything that EviLore EviLore has gone through with the accusation, having the entire site decimated, rebuilding it, reviewing all bans and reverting those that were blatantly unfair, and appointing new mods, do you really think that while he's in charge that the psycho brigade will get a foothold again around here?
 
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MilkyJoe

Member
No. All these resetera cunts are coming back and gaf will just go back to the way it used to be. No thanks

@ EviLore EviLore Just out of interest., when Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesetera inevitably implodes and we have an influx of reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeefugees, what is the policy going to be if they start trying to play out that extremist shit over here?
 

Papa

Banned
I think there's a bit more nuance to what a person goes through with their decision making and following the crowd, but you have a point.

However, maybe anger is a too strong of a word for you, but when you use the words mouth-breathers, idiots, brainwashed, cult, stupid, pathetic, and disgust, I'm feeling confident that your opinion of them is a teeny tiny bit more than indifference or dismissal ;)

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Not sure if that was directed towards me Papa Papa , but in no way am I absolving what was done. I fully expect this particular person to be on a very short leash by the mod team and I fully expect a cool reception by those of us who stuck around. At the same time, I am vehemently against outright hostility to someone who wants to come back and contribute honestly and in good faith.

Edit2: And let's be honest here Papa Papa . After everything that EviLore EviLore has gone through with the accusation, having the entire site decimated, rebuilding it, reviewing all bans and reverting those that were blatantly unfair, and appointing new mods, do you really think that while he's in charge that the psycho brigade will get a foothold again around here?

General comment, not directed at you, but I’ve seen a few comments in this thread that indicate to me that some have learned absolutely nothing from the last two years. Specifically, the importance of culture and how you undermine it by ignoring behaviour and attempting to equalise people from the top down. I think we all want civil discourse but we can’t shortcut our way there. It has to be built up sustainably and a huge wave of Reefugees would likely overwhelm it. The likes of Winter John Winter John cheerleading to let them all back, no questions asked, simply to boost traffic as much as possible, need to be shot down. Quite frankly, they’re idiots. Let those who show humility and a willingness to address past wrongs come back and reintegrate. Tell the others to go play on the highway.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
@ EviLore EviLore Just out of interest., when Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesetera inevitably implodes and we have an influx of reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeefugees, what is the policy going to be if they start trying to play out that extremist shit over here?

You only need to look at the way they operate over there, unrestrained and without any moderating influences from the top down, to see how easy it is to click a mouse and ban someone in tyrannical fashion, then make up a post-hoc justification for it.

We exercise restraint and look to do things the right way, by contrast. But we can always temporarily suspend those principals to throw as many screeching nutcases as necessary into the ban meatgrinder. The team and I are always ready for some action.
 

MilkyJoe

Member
You only need to look at the way they operate over there, unrestrained and without any moderating influences from the top down, to see how easy it is to click a mouse and ban someone in tyrannical fashion, then make up a post-hoc justification for it.

We exercise restraint and look to do things the right way, by contrast. But we can always temporarily suspend those principals to throw as many screeching nutcases as necessary into the ban meatgrinder. The team and I are always ready for some action.

Goood, good. We don't take kindly to their kind round here....
 

Papa

Banned
Please, no....
It's amazing here as it is now.

We should try to help it grow. It is EL’s livelihood after all. Just not at all costs. It needs to be done sustainably and that requires time. Not because I think the mod team can’t handle a sudden influx of Reefugees but because a solid foundation of culture built from the bottom up is what will keep this ship afloat for years, decades to come. Culture doesn’t happen overnight.
 
We should try to help it grow. It is EL’s livelihood after all. Just not at all costs. It needs to be done sustainably and that requires time. Not because I think the mod team can’t handle a sudden influx of Reefugees but because a solid foundation of culture built from the bottom up is what will keep this ship afloat for years, decades to come. Culture doesn’t happen overnight.
Fully agree.
I noticed there are some weird new people here though, lately.
 

Scopa

The Tribe Has Spoken
At the same time, I am vehemently against outright hostility to someone who wants to come back and contribute honestly and in good faith.
Call it out when that actually happens. As it stands I am simply stating my low opinion of these people. I have never immediately started attacking a new poster, I give them all a chance.
 

TaySan

Banned
If I read something here that triggers me (being 5 8, it's usually the heightism stuff), I usually try to make a joke about it, instead of whining and telling people to be more sensitive, or (most horrible) expecting the mods to ban people because of that.

In the spirit of this forum.
I'm not asking for people to be banned. I'm calling for people to be decent and respectful. Maybe you don't care, but that doesn't me I shouldn't care.

But I'm alone on this so I will drop this.*sigh*
 
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Every time I looked at this thread title I thought of that silly cow in Just Cause 2, 'Scorpiooooooo'.

It's a more interesting thread than I'd anticipated. By the way, anyone who says "be /do better' should be catapulted into the sun.
 

TrainedRage

Banned
So you're an asshole. Gotcha.
Once again you guys can be better than this.
Are we a monolith to you? You don’t seem to embrace being part of this community. It’s like you are some sort of sleeper cell 😉
I don’t think I have said anything bad to you at all. In fact I have tried to be extra cordial. But here you are telling me I can be better. Like bro. I’m fine.
 

Cybrwzrd

Banned
Heed my warning: don’t listen to the equalisers. They play on your empathy and guilt you with feelings but they lay the foundation for screechers to take root and spread their cancer. It’s just a function of time and incremental culture change. You won’t even notice the slow creep then bam you’re overrun again. Give them another chance and let them back in but make them earn their way back up the social hierarchy. Don’t just lay a welcome mat out and tell them they’re “equal” (whatever the fuck that even means) from the start.

You have to deprogram these people and that is only going to come with a proper ethering. They need to be exposed to a little corrective bullying and exposed to more ideas than what were in their little echo chamber.

Then again, I am of the opinion that one shouldn't be able to block out hearing voices they don't like. Ignore features on forums and social media are a big part of why things have gotten the way they are these days.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
I'm not asking for people to be banned. I'm calling for people to be decent and respectful. Maybe you don't care, but that doesn't me I shouldn't care.

But I'm alone on this so I will drop this.*sigh*

I get what you're saying, and I absolutely think people should be (and generally are) respectful in real-life interactions, but to expect people to be respectful to any and all sensitivities in their postings online, especially on an anonymous forum where posters could be anyone, is just unrealistic. We've seen where that path leads. Identities form around disabilities or perceived "oppressions," hierarchies are formed, and whomever is loudest about needing protection gets to claim the power of silencing others.

There's obviously some level of base decency that should be respected: no overly aggressive personal insults, no targeted racial or sexual slurs, etc. but that list of banned speech should be kept to a minimum in general.
 
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SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
I was laughing at the “my only social life is Era” more than the autism.

I can’t take someone seriously that is that pathetic.
you do realize that one of the main traits of autism is lack of social awareness which results in social isolation. this isnt just someone being introverted or shy because they are a loser on a video game forum. this is a person who was born with a lack of awareness both you and i take for granted. calling an autistic person pathetic for not having a social circle in real life is not only callous but one of the worst things i've read on any forum.
 
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