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The Ashes 2015 |OT| Three Mitchells v Three Lions
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the holder of the trombone
So he's still going in the LO game then? He's always been at his best in the LO game anyway.
I wouldn't say that he had a great career, but congratulations on a decent and somewhat interesting career.
I wouldn't say that he had a great career, but congratulations on a decent and somewhat interesting career.
Who will be the whipping boy now?
bobnowhere
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Wonder if he'll review the decision?
Hanscombe, Finch and Hastings have been called in to replace Warner, Watson and NCN (hamstring).
Obvious joke, but fucking lol all the same.
They basically haven't got a clue how to bowl to Roy. This often happens when a batsman first comes into international cricket and is in decent form. I think in those situations you keep the slip in.
If he's in for another 5 overs he'll put England in a really strong position to set a 320+ score
This Australian batting line up looks a bit weaker than in previous games with Finch (who's lacking matches) up top and Agar in for Watson. Even Pattinson isn't as good a batter as NCN in the shorter formats.
Edit: Agar gets Roy. The ball's been gripping. Agar/Maxwell against Taylor and Morgan should be interesting.
bobnowhere
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Ok, so what is WASP? Some sort of prediction based on runrate? It dropped 20 runs when Roy got out, so is wickets remaining taken into account as well?
It's a statistical analysis tool which matches the current match position to a database of all previous ODI results since 2006 factoring in what the par score should be.
It relies on the commentators putting in what they reckon the par score is so it's pretty fallible.
Oh fuck it I'm not explaining it well, wikipedia's got a good summary
bobnowhere
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Wade, you suck.
Yeah relying on an appraisal from commentators kills the stat. Though it's just for TV so really it's just a mental exercise.
Reminds of the one from the T20 where they added strike rate and average together to make the most useless stat of all time. First Strike makes up the vast majority and the stats are not even remotely compatible. Channel Nine went home after the test series so we have the sky feed/commentators for the rest.
Yeah relying on an appraisal from commentators kills the stat. Though it's just for TV so really it's just a mental exercise.
Reminds of the one from the T20 where they added strike rate and average together to make the most useless stat of all time. First Strike makes up the vast majority and the stats are not even remotely compatible. Channel Nine went home after the test series so we have the sky feed/commentators for the rest.
England are still really well positioned for a big score here. Australia will need to take wickets, because there's nowt happening for the seamers (other than cummins pace) and while it's spinning, they've had no luck keeping the run rate down.
Edit: while not a chance, Wade chests another one.
Edit: while not a chance, Wade chests another one.
If England don't get 330 plus here, they'll never will. Other than a bit of spin (which Wade has routinely messed up when it's presented the chance) nowts happening. The Australian spinners have sort of have bowled well but given the conditions they should have done more here, they've not taken wickets and they've not stopped the scoring. Australian ground fielding has looked weary as well, Pattinson and Finch are big units and don't seem to get around the pitch well.
Australia aren't going to chase that down given the turn.
Edit: I knew that LBW shout was out, madness they didn't review it given how chanceless it's been here.
Wade misses another one. Very difficult chance, but you've seen them taken.
Australia aren't going to chase that down given the turn.
Edit: I knew that LBW shout was out, madness they didn't review it given how chanceless it's been here.
Wade misses another one. Very difficult chance, but you've seen them taken.
bobnowhere
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Saw a stat earlier that Stokes has only passed 35 twice in his one-day career. Sounds like my career!
Quite why Starc is still bowling anyones guess.
England end up with exactly 300, the wicket looks to have slowed right up. Australia have a chance, it's a decent pitch and under lights with the dew it should limit the spin, but that Australian line up looks a batter or two short now. Depends on how an out of practice Finch goes. I think the lack of pace of Englands bowlers will help them.
Australia need to rest Starc for the rest of this series he looks very tired.
Taylor will take all the plaudits, but dearie me that was a pretty selfish hundred never accelerated at all and spent the last 20 runs (6 overs) aiming for the hundred instead of pushing the score up. England favourites from here out but Australia have a chance if they bat well, however I've got a sneaky feeling Finch won't hang around long. England have better spinners as well, Australia's spinners were unlucky and both Morgan (thanks, Wade), and Taylor (missed review) should have went.
England end up with exactly 300, the wicket looks to have slowed right up. Australia have a chance, it's a decent pitch and under lights with the dew it should limit the spin, but that Australian line up looks a batter or two short now. Depends on how an out of practice Finch goes. I think the lack of pace of Englands bowlers will help them.
Australia need to rest Starc for the rest of this series he looks very tired.
Taylor will take all the plaudits, but dearie me that was a pretty selfish hundred never accelerated at all and spent the last 20 runs (6 overs) aiming for the hundred instead of pushing the score up. England favourites from here out but Australia have a chance if they bat well, however I've got a sneaky feeling Finch won't hang around long. England have better spinners as well, Australia's spinners were unlucky and both Morgan (thanks, Wade), and Taylor (missed review) should have went.
It's supposedly absolutely baltic now.
106/3 Finch goes off Rashid. Silly shot under the circumstances they weren't keeping up with the rate but they were still well set. Australia's C side in real trouble against Englands B side. Maxwell won't last long, this game is about milking the spinners on this pitch not trying to tonk them.
Rashid a bit like Ali is a pretty ordinary bowler who is only dangerous when you're forcing the pace against him.
Maxwell and Bailey looking lost here against the spinners.
Joel Garner seems to not understand the wide rule. That's two obvious wides he's let England off with to preserve 'maiden' overs.
Rashid a bit like Ali is a pretty ordinary bowler who is only dangerous when you're forcing the pace against him.
Maxwell and Bailey looking lost here against the spinners.
Joel Garner seems to not understand the wide rule. That's two obvious wides he's let England off with to preserve 'maiden' overs.
Maxwell is a fucking idiot. An absolute idiot. He's taken the first two balls of the over for 4 each with the reverse sweep, does he think the fucking bowler is as much of a cretin as he is and will offer it up again? But no lets just premeditate yet another reverse sweep and get out. Australia are done here thanks to some fucking mindless stupidity from the 'big show'.
Jezbollah
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You should have!
So the question here today is how Maxwell will manufacturer getting himself out in the late 80's or 90's. He's truly adept at it, the types of dismissals where he approaches a landmark are amazingly diverse.
Thought it a bit silly for Australia to choose to bat. It's not a day/night game, and with the 10.30 starts in September there's always a bit of early nip but then Morgan said England would have batted as well so perhaps Willey (who is a good player) just bowled really well. The Lords one day final is notorious for teams being put bat for that very reason.
The England batting line up looks especially long today, and the Australian bowling line up looks a bit threadbare especially with the lack of left handers in the attack.
Thought it a bit silly for Australia to choose to bat. It's not a day/night game, and with the 10.30 starts in September there's always a bit of early nip but then Morgan said England would have batted as well so perhaps Willey (who is a good player) just bowled really well. The Lords one day final is notorious for teams being put bat for that very reason.
The England batting line up looks especially long today, and the Australian bowling line up looks a bit threadbare especially with the lack of left handers in the attack.
And there Maxwell goes. Stoinis in now, he looked shall we say fucking awful in the T20.
Edit no they changed the order Marsh is in.
Still 20 overs to get through for Australia. They'll be aiming for about 300 I think, which might be a bit short but they're running out of batters.
How did Bailey ever do so well in India, he looks almost completely incapable of playing against spin here, very painful innings this for an ODI his strike rate is falling towards 65.
Edit no they changed the order Marsh is in.
Still 20 overs to get through for Australia. They'll be aiming for about 300 I think, which might be a bit short but they're running out of batters.
How did Bailey ever do so well in India, he looks almost completely incapable of playing against spin here, very painful innings this for an ODI his strike rate is falling towards 65.
Moeen Ali must be the most frustrating player to play against - with bat and ball.
He looks sloppy at the crease, plays and misses constantly and with the ball he is extremely average and gets wickets simply because batsmen don't rate him and try and smash him out the ground.
He does Maxwell with pace - "great bowling!" they all say, but the ball didn't turn at all despite him flighting it and placing the seam to turn. He strikes me as a pretty lucky cricketer.
Still - some average batting again from some of the Australians. Finch, Stoinis, Burns and now Marsh as well.
He looks sloppy at the crease, plays and misses constantly and with the ball he is extremely average and gets wickets simply because batsmen don't rate him and try and smash him out the ground.
He does Maxwell with pace - "great bowling!" they all say, but the ball didn't turn at all despite him flighting it and placing the seam to turn. He strikes me as a pretty lucky cricketer.
Still - some average batting again from some of the Australians. Finch, Stoinis, Burns and now Marsh as well.
chicko1983
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only caught the innings pretty much when Bailey got out.
Well done Wade and Hastings.
Well done Wade and Hastings.
Great recovery from Wade and Hastings, but I think that looks a bit short on this pitch especially with the bowling line up from Australia which is pretty inexperienced.
DeSo
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Yep, particularly with our bowling attack. Hastings and Stoinis are trash which leaves two bowlers to do the bulk of the work.
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Hastings sure picked up the pace. Two big partnerships for Australia after looking to be in trouble.
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