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UK EU commissioner has just resigned saying he is disappointed in the result of the referendum. So many sane people leaving.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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He's finished, during the campaign I saw more of Gordon Brown than Corbyn. He's unelectable and simply doesn't have the personality to lead a party. He was born to sit on the backbenches and nothing more.
Cheeseman Battitude
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LOL!
I can see EU getting worse as more and more people get pissed off with their various governments. I am seriously thinking if moving to Australia
Sounds like a job for Nigel Farage!
The process is in full motion and there's no one in the UK who seems to be able to lead the nation through this.
It's the recipe for utter disaster.
And 4. Have the question be more detailed, a vote for an alternative rather than just choosing to leave with no plan.
But yeah, baffling the way it was run.
That article also exposes the risk the tories face if they try to block him becoming PM
Apart from rolls Royce, diageo and gsk and the death pedallers they're all foreign companies based here
Rolls Royce is owned by the Germans, no?
More Fun To Compute
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You are in for a unpleasant revelation if you think it was the UK that was making the the EU neoliberal in terms of pushing for austerity and selling off government assets.
Expected. :/
Really hope Brexiter's pull something out of the bag. Three-quarters of Europe's securities business almost certainly gone now.
Labour needs a new leader to fight in a referendum, win and promise a new EU referendum so we can get out of this mess. I think people would go for it now the truth is out. The out is in motion but the deal they come up with should be put to a public vote.
SporeCrawler
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Also why would the europeans want to vote now? They will want to see what happens with UK (or what remains after the Scottland Referendum)
PdotMichael
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Rolls Royce (the jet engines one) recently moved a larger part of its production to Dahlewitz in Germany.
With UK leaving the EU, it would be easier to move even more parts of the production to Germany to get the sweet Airbus deals.
With UK leaving the EU, it would be easier to move even more parts of the production to Germany to get the sweet Airbus deals.
France is heading there, when I look at them, I see us 8 or 9 years ago with UKIP, the more votes France's Front National take in the next elections, the calls for a referendum will just louder and louder
if the sky does not fall in as all the experts predicted, and the UK recovers quickly that low din will become a loud shout
Oops forgot about that although it's not as straight forward as that. We can thank Maggie for that
And? Do we hate foreign businesses who build here now too? Sorry if I'm presuming.
Joelstinton14
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I think Gordon Brown is a perfect example of who can be a statesman or not, regarding JC as leader. Rubbish, in unfortunate circumstances has to be said as PM.
But i thought he was brilliant in the Scottish Ref, and again speaking on the EU debate. Give him a subject he is passionate about and he is spell binding, him on everything else? Dour, boring, uncomfortable and not very engaging.
Valkyria
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And GSK is gonna be out of the EU still following the EU GMP regulations. Actually that is good for my country (Spain) and my career (engineer at pharma industry). Maybe GSK and other companies based in UK start investing into the plants they have here in Spain.
But stopping being selfish, I'm really sad that what I tough as an extension of my country is now leaving. I spend long time in my teens years in London and now it seems like is giving me the cold shoulder.
Will be interesting to see how the vote of no confidence goes.
I actually predicted that Corbyn wouldn't be PM, but would help drag Labour back to the left to an extent for their next leader.
Copied from the net so grains of salt at the standby.
Machines, engines, pumps: US$63.9 billion (13.9% of total exports)
Gems, precious metals: $53 billion (11.5%)
Vehicles: $50.7 billion (11%)
Pharmaceuticals: $36 billion (7.8%)
Oil: $33.2 billion (7.2%)
Electronic equipment: $29 billion (6.3%)
Aircraft, spacecraft: $18.9 billion (4.1%)
Medical, technical equipment: $18.4 billion (4%)
Organic chemicals: $14 billion (3%)
Plastics: $11.8 billion (2.6%)
There has been a significant decline over the past two years, mostly due to (and rather unhelpfully this past week) EU grants paying for UK companies to move factories to Eastern Europe.
That type of talk is also happening on Portugal's public station. It's a ridiculous way to deliver the news and it's more about making people fear for the EU than focusing on the actual issues the UK has.
The EU, right now, is way more safe than the UK is and reporters focusing on that is completely ridiculous.
My guess is that it's just a matter of convenience...easier to have preliminary meetings with the big players now and then larger meetings with everyone later. You don't really need 28 countries round the table right now.
There's a meeting on Tuesday and Wednesday with the rest of them, no worries. I'm not sure if Cameron is invited, I would think he's not.
Foreign companies who bought into the companies here during the Eu years might be more inclined to fuck off or more likely scale back now little England has tied a trade noose around its own neck
And I'm sure that gsk is going to fucking love having to certify drugs in the uk (you know once the uk rebuilds its regulatory framework and testing agency from the ground up) and then again in the eu
He is for a dinner on Tuesday but not for the meeting on Wednesday.
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They promised they'd push for one, so they can now legitimately do so. True, the UK government can deny them, but given events, I don't think that would go down well.
France's growing right-wing parties are a concern but if the UK falls flat on their face after this I doubt a referendum would pass or even be done.
If the EU plays their cards right it will make it very hard for any other country to see leaving the EU as a good choice.
Does little england include king London?
Valkyria
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Don't worry the Polish, Spaniards and Italians, that leavers seems to despise so much are gonna be in the negotiations regarding the UK leave. But hey I'm sure England would have the upper hand in the negotiations.
No, but when there's a material change in circumstances regarding our largest trading partner those companies might not be inclined to stay.
Labour being dragged to the left is a huge problem, because outside of London those Labour heartlands are very much heading to the right. Scotland has been taken over by the SNP and even the Conservatives are making more of an impression there than Labour.
Tony Blair is a monster but he is right in that the centre-ground is the way for Labour to become relevant again. All Corbyn is doing is letting the party wither away as voters in England drift to UKIP and those in Scotland to the SNP. In the current climate, liberal ideas are not attractive to the average person outside of London.
Well it's not like it held Germany at bay.
Rational thinking doesn't seem to be a valued attribute in British media these days.
Nexus Zero
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The lack of leadership is a blessing. The Remain camp are going to grab this moment by the balls for Scotland and London and do the best they can in the shortest amount of time - because we actually know what we want, and why.
hydrophilic attack
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A lot of English people have an inflated view of the country's importance. This is reflected in the media, which further fuels this delusion in a nasty feedback loop
To make an example of the UK that you might break up and loose everything when leaving the EU? And they don't have to fire one shot (to quote Mr. Farage here), they just have to slightly encourage the UK on it's path to disintegrate itself.
Ah, his last meal...
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That's the definition of nationalism you might as well just say that this vote was a nationalist vote. No country is special when it comes to this.
It's a meeting of the founders of EU. There will be a meeting of all 27 members of EU beginning of next week. Thank you for your concern, we're fine.
Rolls royce the car maker. Not the jet engine/turbine company.
Which is why we need a convincing left wing labour. They won't win anyway but we need one of the major parties fighting against the tide
The discrepancy between Scotland and Westminster is staggering. The Scottish Prime Minister even called it out during her speech. Throwing down the gauntlet.
It's a bit of an awkward spot for the SNP, even when oil prices were high they had to admit that they got their sums wrong and couldn't afford true independence, now? Won't be a super fun time and I can't see the EU wanting to support another hungry mouth straight after losing one of it's largest contributes.
Spain is still a possible issue. If they allow Scotland in then it would be giving legitimacy to Catalonia's desire for independence.
I just find it strange in the current environment.
I see. Plenty of British companies might move abroad too. Financial services are easier to move than whole factories.
I say that in addition rather than to negate what you say.
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