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[TheGrat1]

Lol what ?
Ok good, let it out, let it out, deep breaths, don't keep it to yourself, share with us.

Did you actually not understand what I said or are you incapable of articulating a convincing rebuttal?

 

[Jtibh]

That was a good show, I thought. Didn't blow away the PS5 showing completely, but was better. For my tastes, anyway.

New Fable from Playground is real, so I'm delighted. Halo looked really good, confirmation of open world has my attention. Everwild looks a bit different & a bit special, I really want to see some gameplay from it. Avowed was a very nice surprise for me, as I thought it would be a possible mid-gen title if real, so that was a real bonus.

I'll be checking out the Hellblade 2 dev diaries. Looking forward to the Outer Worlds expansion. Keeping an eye on a few more titles after today as well, like Stalker 2. I know nothing about that one, but it was intriguing. In fact after today, I'm feeling really good about both PS5 & Series X to be honest. Think this next generation is going to be an absolute blast. So much to look forward to. Happy days for us gamers

You know nothing about stalker? You are not a gamer. Go hang yourself.
Kidding.
But not.

 

[Nickolaidas]

 

[Redlight]

I'm not comparing it to the ps5 reveal, they said they have 15 studios rn, they don't have that many established ips like sony. They have the money to fund AAA or AA games but they churn out this crap. They don't have gow, uncharted,tlou like games. I genuinely want them to make good games and take risks because I'll buy their stuff on pc if it's good but sadly it's not.

Strange, I didn't see the GoW, Uncharted and TLOU games in the Sony conference.

 

[PuppetMaster]

Bonnie Ross is the Halo killer.

 

[Wandering Leopard]

Games were fine a lot of variety - main problem was very little gameplay and a lot of in-engine/CG footage, the likes of Forza, Sennua 2 and Fable etc...

EverWild probably looked the most promising but I couldn't get a feel of the moment-to-moment gameplay.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Every single "console exclusive" that you listed from Sony's show is a timed exclusive and will be available at a later date on XBox.

And thts OK. Sony's exclusives and what thy showed trumped what Xbox showed easily. The console exclusives I put come from ign tell them tht lol

I'm in this for Horizon, Spiderman, Ratchet, etc... Those are the ones tht show tht next gen feel especially ratchet and horizon. And ohhhh lawwd when thy finally show God of War it'll be Ragnorak

 

[MMaRsu]

Those 12 terraflops

 

[Kagey K]

Showing a narrated gameplay walkthrough of The Medium right now.

 

[Portugeezer]

For reference here is Sony's ps5 exclusives and console exclusives shown during presentation

PS5 exclusives:

Astro Playroom (anyone played Astrobot knows even a pack in will be brilliant)
Demon Souls (need I say moree lol )
Gran Turismo 7 (looked gd and actual gameplay with raytracing)
Horizon 2 (cream of the crop in any showing BTW)
Spider Man(awesome and hyped)
Ratchet Clank (next gen all the way with gameplay)
Returnal - looked fire imo)
Sackboy big adventure (looked fun and good)

Console exclusives

Deathloop (looked gd)
Ghost wire Tokyo (looked gd)
God Fall (have high hopes looked gd)
Kena (looked great)
Jett the Far Shore
Oddworld
Project athia (looked so good)
Solar Ash
Bugsnax (looked meh but u never know)
Volcano High (only trash looking game imo)

There were more games but thy are multiplat.

People say this show was mediocre? Smh thk God the consensus on internet has spoken and gainers to professionals have stated it was a solid to great massive showing with gameplay as well. Compared to what was shown today Microsoft show was a travesty imo of course.

Sony also showed more games running on actual PS5 and not 3+ years away CG trailer.

Still using "in engine" (so PC with a 2080 or what?) for Forza... we all remember the downgrade for Forza 3 2D crowds and worse lighting.

 

[quest]

After Sony have released Last of Us 2 and Ghost of Tsushima. This was Microsofts moment to show and not tell. They spent the entire generation beating we promise we gonna have quality exclusives. The moment has arrived to show that and they failed. To show CG trailers and not even know the genre of a game (I'm looking at Everwild), this ain't the time to just show CG trailer or in engine trailer. We have been shown games far off from Microsoft for those games to either be cancelled (Fable Legends, Scalebound, Phantom Dust) or hyped but turned out to be B tier or average game (ReCore, Crackdown).

We needed a moment like the first gameplay reveal of Ghost of Tsushima where you introduced to the game in the form of gameplay.

How am I supposed to be hyped for Everwild, Fable or Avolved. What if Everwild is a Animal Crossing type game or strategy game I'm not interested in that genre, what if Avolved is a Outerwilds version of Elder Scrolls, smaller in scope. What if Fable is a flop like Fable 3. These ain't sequels to games that have already been successful in their previous entry. So for a first showing they should have shown mind blowing gameplay.

This was Microsofts time to say look we have a AAA new IP, or we can reinvent our old IP and get you hyped. Instead we got a bunch of VG trailers and Halo that looks like more of the same with basic graphics.

Im sure the team who made pillars of eternity will just suddenly shit the bed. Im sure you busted out the violin when Sony had zero gameplay of souls, horizon and spiderman lol. This was to show people what is coming.

At least the goal posts have moved from no games to no gameplay in trailers.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Sony also showed more games running on actual PS5 and not 3+ years away CG trailer.

Still using "in engine" (so PC with a 2080 or what?) for Forza... we all remember the downgrade for Forza 3 2D crowds and worse lighting.

Yup ratchet looked next gen and was tons of gameplay. Even though ppl don't believe it Horizon had gameplay in there too

 

[thelastword]

Where was the game play, where was the 12tf commanding presence and graphics? Where are all the Raytracing games and games taking advantage of vrs and velocity arch?

This was even worse than I imagined, because I knew why Greenberg and others were saying to temper expectations. Showing Ori again and Destiny. Where were the games from MS studios to blow us away. All I saw were CG trailers and cutscenes and even bad cg at that.

There's no forza or fable at launch and Halo looks very underwhelming, not withstanding its now open world.

 

[Jtibh]

I mean, you really see how amazing Sony's 1st party games are visually when the haters think it's CGI.

But to be fair, Hellblade's 2 engine is also phenomenal. I can't wait to see how much or how little will be sacrificed visually in the actual game. It was such a letdown to not see anything Hellblade 2 related.

I agree. I wanted to see hellblade 2 as that at least is true next gen and would have set the bar of what to expect.

The medium was so average and the only reason they say it cant be done on thebold systems is due to the instant switching between the 2 worlds.

Otherwise this show was soo irrelevant and the obligatory but wait there will be more. We share more later bla bla.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Showing a narrated gameplay walkthrough of The Medium right now.

LINK!!!

 

[Portugeezer]

Ok i just checked it
o still no reason to buy an Xbox for it when i have a good gaming pc. Additional i can get a shit ton of Mods for a bad game to turn it into a good game.

Purposefully specific, so I just assume it will also be on PS5 at some point, just not at launch.

 

[Kagey K]

Im sure the team who made pillars of eternity will just suddenly shit the bed. Im sure you busted out the violin when Sony had zero gameplay of souls, horizon and spiderman lol. This was to show people what is coming.

At least the goal posts have moved from no games to no gameplay in trailers.

Baby steps.

 

[Dr Bass]

I just remembered...

"Pure creativity."

"The most diverse lineup of games in Xbox history."

I kinda think Spencer needs to be let go.

 

[Jtibh]

Timdooooog my man. We miss you buddy . Always good entertainment

 

[Kagey K]

LINK!!!

It’s over. It was on geoffs Youtube aftershow.
Talking Psychonauts now.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Those 12 terraflops

lAsT gEn wIlL nOt hOlD gAmEs bAcK

sCalAbiLiTy

 

[Jtibh]

I just remembered...

"Pure creativity."

"The most diverse lineup of games in Xbox history."

I kinda think Spencer needs to be let go.

Most diverse..........i cant recreate this incident but when the 2 girls sister turned into an adult man and women as in brother and sisters i spilled my whole bottle of water on me from the shock.

I am just not edgy enough to stomach these sudden changes in content.

 

[Redlight]

For reference here is Sony's ps5 exclusives and console exclusives shown during presentation

PS5 exclusives:

Astro Playroom (anyone played Astrobot knows even a pack in will be brilliant)
Demon Souls (need I say moree lol )
Gran Turismo 7 (looked gd and actual gameplay with raytracing)
Horizon 2 (cream of the crop in any showing BTW)
Spider Man(awesome and hyped)
Ratchet Clank (next gen all the way with gameplay)
Returnal - looked fire imo)
Sackboy big adventure (looked fun and good)

Console exclusives

Deathloop (looked gd)
Ghost wire Tokyo (looked gd)
God Fall (have high hopes looked gd)
Kena (looked great)
Jett the Far Shore
Oddworld
Project athia (looked so good)
Solar Ash
Bugsnax (looked meh but u never know)
Volcano High (only trash looking game imo)

There were more games but thy are multiplat.

People say Sony's show was mediocre? Smh thk God the consensus on internet has spoken and gamers to professionals have stated Sony's show was solid to great, massive showing with gameplay as well. Compared to what was shown today Microsoft show was a travesty imo of course.

Sony show solid 8.5-9
Microsoft Show 4.5-5.0

• Halo Infinite’
• Forza Motorsport
• State of Decay 3
• Rare: Everwild
• Obsidian: Avowed
• As Dusk Falls
• Psychonauts 2
• Destiny 2: Beyond Light (free on Gamepass)
• STALKER 2
• Warhammer: Darktide,
• Tetris Effect Connected
• The Gunk
• The Medium
• Phantasy Star Online 2: New Genesis
• CrossfireX campaign
• Fable

Yet one show is 8.5-9 and the other 4.5-5?
That's the Gaf, right there.

 

[scalman]

its like UBI have more better games now then MS have for their next gen , why no real trailers MS ?

 

[KAL2006]

Im sure the team who made pillars of eternity will just suddenly shit the bed. Im sure you busted out the violin when Sony had zero gameplay of souls, horizon and spiderman lol. This was to show people what is coming.

At least the goal posts have moved from no games to no gameplay in trailers.

But Sony have nothing to prove its Microsoft who do. They didn't show Horizon 2 or Demon's Souls gameplay but they just released 2 AAA games that reviewed and sold very well, 1 being a new IP while the other being a sequel. They showed Ratchet gameplay which to be honest looks better graphically than any gameplay shown from Microsofts exclusives. This isn't the time for Microsoft to show CG trailers especially after Phantom Dust reveal.

It's strange not a single new AAA first party gameplay reveal other than Halo Infinite which looks so average. And remember Halo 5 and 4 they weren't the best sequels from fans opinions so why should we be hyped. Didn't the director leave the studio, why Microsoft have a plan to add stuff later like ray tracing in this game, is this just being rushed out to hit launch.

 

[AV]

lAsT gEn wIlL nOt hOlD gAmEs bAcK

I don't even think those screenshots backup that argument. It looks like a PS3 game with AA on.

 

[Portugeezer]

lAsT gEn wIlL nOt hOlD gAmEs bAcK

sCalAbiLiTy

Somehow the gameplay looked better than specifically selected marketing screenshots.
I don't know how 343 accomplished this.

 

[GlockSaint]

Strange, I didn't see the GoW, Uncharted and TLOU games in the Sony conference.

Where did i mention they were? I'm saying they have better franchises than xbox and they won many people over with it. And Xbox needs to do the same.

 

[Kerotan]

No wonder they want Sony to announce the price first. Because if this thing costs more it's DOA.

 

[Fake]

What I miss? At least I read the Fable thread. Any other game?

 

[thismeinteil]

Phil: Here at MS we hate moneyhats and think they are anti-consumer. Now, announcing our moneyhats.

God, this man is so two-faced.

Anyway, the presentation was meh. I don't think they took any wind out of Sony's sails. The actual gameplay we saw, especially for Halo, was hardly enough to justify bragging about having the power crown.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Hey is there a full list of games shown off at the showcase? I missed it.

 

[Beer Baelly]

Hey is there a full list of games shown off at the showcase? I missed it.

I updated the OP.

 

[Nickolaidas]

"The most diverse lineup of games in Xbox history."

He's not wrong on that one. There is something for everyone in that list.

 

[Jtibh]

Haha

Haha you blind fool cgi trailer....stop spreading bullshit

Ok seem i made a misstake by attacking catlady i heard soo much about.
I appologize.

Catlady you are my secret love haha.

Ok attack argument...

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

I updated the OP.

Ah, perfect. Thank you for that Beer Baelly

 

[Dr Bass]

What big games? A Spiderman expansion and Astro, a ftp cartoon game with bad graphics and a few timed exclusives for launch? Horizon 2 was the only big 1st party game I remember Sony showing and it was just a CGI trailer and it is NOT a launch game.

Everything at the PS5 show was real time on PS5, captured directly. They stated it explicitly at the beginning of the show. The Horizon stuff was real time graphics. Kinda funny you think it was CG. Think about that for a second.

Astro thing is an included demo. A free to play cartoon game? Did you see how many of those games at the Xbox were "cartoony"?

MS is dead if this is all they can do. They won't make any inroads at all globally and in the US I don't see them growing significantly. Sony and Nintendo will continue to stomp them. They literally lost my sale today it was so bad.

 

[SpongebobSquaredance]

It was the right decision after all to stay away from this thread and any chat during the show. Going for Xbox. Much better bang for your buck.

 

[Mista]

Everwild actually looked fantastic. I'm looking forward to that.

Everwild and Avowed definitely caught my attention

 

[Kagey K]

Ok the post stream is over, I’m out for a bit. After the Youtube streamers on the preshow and the comments and threads coming from some ppl here, I can only handle so much stupid in such a short period of time.

 

[Insane Metal]

Those 12 terraflops

You know, that wouldn't be bad if it was a small game of a small studio. But that's FUCKIN HALO. Look at those trees. The foliage. Dammit the whole thing looks like an XBox One S game. Hell, there are better looking games on the S.

What the fuck is going on here.

 

[Dr Bass]

Every single "console exclusive" that you listed from Sony's show is a timed exclusive and will be available at a later date on XBox.

You sure? I can see no reference to Kena coming to Xbox for example. It says PS4/5 and PC hence the idea of "console exclusive." Do you see info that states otherwise? Console exclusive and timed exclusive are very different things.

 

[GymWolf]

lol i can't believe that they did an event with even less gameplay than sony...

some good title here and there but not enough gameplay to get really excited and halo was REALLY underwhelming.

if sony event was berely a 7, this one is barely a 6.

 

[jshackles]

Ah, perfect. Thank you for that Beer Baelly

Also

Dragon Quest XI S
Exomecha
Echo Generation
Hello Neighbor 2
Balan Wonderworld

All announced in the pre-show

 

[Racer!]

Ouch. Gamepass and crossplay ftw

7 years with this is going to be so fun yoohoo

 

[DeepEnigma]

Somehow the gameplay looked better than specifically selected marketing screenshots.
I don't know how 343 accomplished this.

Gameplay did look better than the screenshots (the lighting looked less flat), however, all the assets (triangle count, foliage...), physics, pop in, etc., screamed XB1 anchor.

 

[Rien]

The worst part was the monster thingy in the end of the Halo trailer.

 

[Insane Metal]

Ouch. Gamepass and crossplay ftw

7 years with this is going to be so fun yoohoo

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

Halo infinite's gameplay looked way better than the screenshots ...

But since Halo is also launching on the Xbox one we already knew that would hold it back from a technical standpoint

 

[PleaseWaitStation4]

The end result of "everyone gets a trophy" generation. Stagnation. No genre growth beyond a small graphics upgrade. If we saw what Fable looks like, then maybe. The Obsidian rpg looked decent and VR is a step forward, but we need to see more. Halo was hi-res Halo 1. This is being passed as ok from you, M$. It isn't at the level yet where you can make Halo look like that and think people won't see there's any difference.