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[ACESHIGH]

Honestly I couldn't care less about this game, feels like Great Value Mario... All the games ported or announced to be ported are nothing more than nice to haves to me. The good thing is that is one game less from the exclusive bucket, so Bloodborne its closer.

Hope they don't waste time porting Destruction all Stars ffs...

One thing I would really be interested in is they porting the PS3 era games. The lineup was way more diverse back then, hell even port the PS2 HD collections. PS Now won't cut it so workign on these port would be worth it to re release them on PS4/PS5 later.

 

[Guilty_AI]

 

[Draugoth]

Myiazaki please

 

[MayauMiao]

I will never understand why people get upset that games come to PC. It's NOT the same market as PlayStation. Also, how does it affect you? :

It made me see PlayStation console as less of a must have console. The more PlayStation port I hear, the less reason I see the need to purchase a PS5.

 

[CrimsonSquall]

As long as Sony keeps the strategy of releasing new games on PS5 and then releasing them on PC way after, this is a good thing.

Get’s more people playing PS games which leads to more $$$ in Sony’s pocket which leads to bigger and better exclusives for the platform.

Them not having a dedicated PC software platform removes 30% of revenue from them so I would never see the point of day and date releases matching PS5 but this has all made sense so far

 

[StateofMajora]

I will never understand why people get upset that games come to PC. It's NOT the same market as PlayStation. Also, how does it affect you? :
Do you only own a PS4/PS5? You still get to play every PS game!

It’s pretty simple, if you are someone that’s open to playing on PC, but buy a ps5 for its exclusives, even if you’re like me and you also buy it because you like physical games ; it devalues the purchase.

Also, the hypocrisy, people are super happy that Xbox games come to PC either with Game Pass or stand alone, but get mad that PlayStation games

That’s partially because Xbox is used to this treatment, but it’s new for playstation. Trust me, i’ll get to the point where I say playstation is just as useless as xbox at this rate. I give it one more generation for me. Ps6 will probably be more useless, if anything, given how xbox series emulation is quite nice.

As for the other reason, fanboys gonna fanboy.

 

[RCU005]

It made me see PlayStation console as less of a must have console. The more PlayStation port I hear, the less reason I see the need to purchase a PS5.

This is so stupid! So are you jealous that Sony doesn't make a PlayStation just for you? PS5 is not a collectible item or a limited object. It's a business.

Less reason to purchase a PS5? Do you have a PC? If so, then you should be glad that you have more options to buy a game. If you see that the PC game can go to 120fps but not the PS5, you have the ability to buy the PC version. What's the problem with that?

It's not the less reason, it's the loss of self-entitlement in the belief that you own something everybody can own, but somehow you believe you are the only one who can.

This is like those people complaining that their favorite band went mainstream. I remember a lot of people whining when Blink-182 got famous. Like, you know who wanted to be famous and were enjoying all that mainstream? THEM! Because that's their goal! They want fame and money! That's practically the only reason to start a band!

 

[SuperColourful]

I guess we can expect Dreams to be ported to too.

I remember in stream from Dreams Devs said they thinking of releasing it to pc

 

[Guilty_AI]

It’s pretty simple, if you are someone that’s open to playing on PC, but buy a ps5 for its exclusives, even if you’re like me and you also buy it because you like physical games ; it devalues the purchase.

Thats sony's fault, they should just cut the crap and be clear about what games are or aren't getting ports and when, instead of this vague bullshit they've been doing. That way people can make informed decisions.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I will never understand why people get upset that games come to PC. It's NOT the same market as PlayStation. Also, how does it affect you? :

Do you have a PC that can run those games and a PS4/PS5? Great you have more options to buy the games!
Do you only have a PC? Great you get to play those PS games you couldn't before!
Do you only own a PS4/PS5? You still get to play every PS game!

People act like it's a sin or a crime to publish a game on PC?
"But, why do I need a PS4/PS5 if all games are coming on PC?" Sell your PS4/PS5 then! Keep your PC only! Or just enjoy more options

Also, the hypocrisy, people are super happy that Xbox games come to PC either with Game Pass or stand alone, but get mad that PlayStation games do, too.

Two key reasons why people get peeved.

1. Their walled garden crumbles, where they get extra enjoyment knowing a game can only be played on their hardware. Somehow a PC gamer is the boogeyman of fun

2. Another view is if PS games come to PC, tons of PS gamers will quit playing PS4 or PS5 and buy a PC to play games there. They're willing to wait years, buy an RTX3000 loaded PC and drop all the benefits of console gaming like other third party console exclusives, a streamlined UI, trophies, friends lists etc.... Sell the console on Ebay and take that money and buy a PC rig

 

[StateofMajora]

Thats sony's fault, they should just cut the crap and be clear about what games are or aren't getting ports and when, instead of this vague bullshit they've been doing. That way people can make informed decisions.

I mean the cat’s out of the bag now isn’t it? I think it’s safe to say only a handful of games will remain exclusive, if even that.

If I played games primarily on PC, and didn’t have a ps4 collection I wouldn’t give skipping ps5 a second thought.

But I do have a collection, and do buy physical games so i’m ok. But even then, it still feels devalued to me.

 

[MayauMiao]

This is so stupid! So are you jealous that Sony doesn't make a PlayStation just for you? PS5 is not a collectible item or a limited object. It's a business.

To assume that I'm jealous is just stupid. I bought a Playstation because the titles not available on PC, simple as that.

Now that Sony is porting more games to PC, why would I be spending it more on the console when I could well use the money to upgrade my PC?

 

[MrFunSocks]

I find it hilarious how thristy PC gamers are for PS exclusives.

Weren't these same gamers saying that they had plenty of games to play on PC beside PS exclusives? Same shit for Bloodborne lol

I think you're mistaking people having a laugh at the upset playstation fanboys for something else.

Playstation exclusive coming to PC is something that a lot of people are going to have to stop getting upset about because it's going to happen a lot.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

You tell that son of a bitch to bring on that son of a bitch to the PC whorehouse.

 

[ManaByte]

I think you're mistaking people having a laugh at the upset playstation fanboys for something else.

Playstation exclusive coming to PC is something that a lot of people are going to have to stop getting upset about because it's going to happen a lot.

The day [insert PlayStation exclusive here] was announced for PC was the worst day of your life.

But for Xbox owners...it was Tuesday.

 

[TrebleShot]

I really fail to see how there is any scope for disappointment in this situation or any situation where a big Sony game goes to PC on the same date.

it’s not like everyone is rocking a 3090 and will be able to max out these games , 90% of the use base will likely be running these at 1080/60 which is fine on a monitor but should in no way diminish your enjoyment of the game if your a console player.

 

[CapnAmaricrunch]

wonder how it'll run

 

[Guilty_AI]

wonder how it'll run

This?

It definitely doesn't take much to run, unless they completely screw over the port.

 

[teezzy]

I find it hilarious how thristy PC gamers are for PS exclusives.

Weren't these same gamers saying that they had plenty of games to play on PC beside PS exclusives? Same shit for Bloodborne lol

Yes, and now we have those games in addition to some cool looking PS exclusives.

I don't see your point, but carry on.

 

[Holammer]

This?

It definitely doesn't take much to run, unless they completely screw over the port.

Even without the magical SSD blessed by Cerny?

Those screenshots got me thinking, with GoW getting DualSense support, wonder if there's any chance of Astro's Playroom getting a PC release?
That would be a brutal coup de grâce to many. Especially if it contained new m+kb sections.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Just give me Dreams on PC motherfuckers.

 

[Outrunner]

Even without the magical SSD blessed by Cerny?

Those screenshots got me thinking, with GoW getting DualSense support, wonder if there's any chance of Astro's Playroom getting a PC release?
That would be a brutal coup de grâce to many. Especially if it contained new m+kb sections.

That game is a tech demo for PS5 why would they port it? They offered it for free with the console, what would they do? Ask PC gamers to pay 40 bucks for it?

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

I wouldn’t be surprised if this was legitimate. Next will probably be Demon’s Souls or Returnal. The PS5 shortages probably aren’t doing Sony any favors either.

 

[Shmunter]

Nice work Jimbo you NutSack…lol

 

[spons]

I'm sure Sony weeps at the prospect of selling millions additional of copies of their games on a platform that doesn't directly compete with theirs.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

As long as Sony keeps the strategy of releasing new games on PS5 and then releasing them on PC way after, this is a good thing.

Get’s more people playing PS games which leads to more $$$ in Sony’s pocket which leads to bigger and better exclusives for the platform.

Them not having a dedicated PC software platform removes 30% of revenue from them so I would never see the point of day and date releases matching PS5 but this has all made sense so far

If anyone truly believes they will keep PlayStation exclusives off the PC for 3 to 4 years after they are released on PS5 are going to be in for some surprises in the future. It will end up being 1 year release time frames most likely followed by day one releases later if Sony is ready satisfied with the PC sales figures imo.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Personally I'm still hoping (well, praying at this point) for Dreams to come to PC. It's arguably the one PS game that makes the most sense as a PC game, and would open up the creative community greatly while providing an avenue for game development less intimidating than programs like Blender, Maya, Python etc. (can debate how "intimidating" some of these actually are to learn, but for the average person Dreams would be a lot more inviting and let them get high-quality stuff done more quickly).

Not to mention keyboard & mouse trumps controller or VR controls for game content/asset creation by a mile.

If anyone truly believes they will keep PlayStation exclusives off the PC for 3 to 4 years after they are released on PS5 are going to be in for some surprises in the future. It will end up being 1 year release time frames most likely followed by day one releases later if Sony is ready satisfied with the PC sales figures imo.

It's still really up in the air. IMO Day 1 won't be coming except for MP-centric, F2P/GaaS type titles, smaller 1P games that could benefit from a console/PC audience Day 1 (i.e a Tomba sequel, new Parappa/UmJammer Lammy, Echochrome or PS All-Stars 2 type of games), whether wholly developed in-house or in collaboration with 3P devs.

Your Spider-Mans, God of Wars, Uncharteds, TLOU (SP-focused) etc. are probably never coming Day-and-Date to PC and same for probably even bigger 3P co-developed exclusives or timed exclusives (Final Fantasy, Bloodborne 2, rumored MGS or Silent Hill remakes/sequels etc.). Why? Well, if Sony's now making money off console sales, even if it's say $25 profit off console sales, realize that's at least lifetime $2.5 billion in console hardware profits for the division, and the best way to guarantee that is to keep a decent enough buffer between console and PC releases for the bigger exclusives.

So we're probably still looking at 2-year to 3-year gaps between PS console and PC releases for those bigger titles, unless they are MP/F2P/GaaS-focused, in which case they'll very likely become Day-and-Date.

 

[CrimsonSquall]

If anyone truly believes they will keep PlayStation exclusives off the PC for 3 to 4 years after they are released on PS5 are going to be in for some surprises in the future. It will end up being 1 year release time frames most likely followed by day one releases later if Sony is ready satisfied with the PC sales figures imo.

It won’t ever make sense to be day 1 unless they make their own software platform. The exception is day 1 with this Uncharted4/ Lost Legacy combo but the games have technically been out for awhile.

Why on earth would Sony purposefully take a massive revenue deduction and release on PC Day 1 when their bread is well buttered on the PS Store?

 

[THE DUCK]

Lol where's the guy that swore up and down that Sony wouldn't release anything that wasn't at least 2 years old (or more) even though all signs were pointing to the opposite?

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Lol where's the guy that swore up and down that Sony wouldn't release anything that wasn't at least 2 years old (or more) even though all signs were pointing to the opposite?

Roll call for yurinka ?

 

[RCU005]

tons of PS gamers will quit playing PS4 or PS5 and buy a PC

I don't agree with this. Do games on PC sell more than on consoles? I believe there are not many PC gamers in comparison to consoles, and while I do agree that some would buy a PC or stopped playing on PS, it would be the minority. I don't think it would be more than 5% loss of marketshare. However, Sony would still getting the money on the games regardless of the platform.

Now that Sony is porting more games to PC, why would I be spending it more on the console when I could well use the money to upgrade my PC?

If you are one of the few that could do that, you can! And that is not a bad thing at all, not even for Sony. Like I stated in the quote above. I don't think there a big loss for Sony if people would buy their games on PC instead of PS5, because it's not so many people. If everyone did it, Sony would never have released one PS game on PC.

 

[Valedix]

Honestly PS games on PC is a thing I'm more than happy for.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

It won’t ever make sense to be day 1 unless they make their own software platform. The exception is day 1 with this Uncharted4/ Lost Legacy combo but the games have technically been out for awhile.

Why on earth would Sony purposefully take a massive revenue deduction and release on PC Day 1 when their bread is well buttered on the PS Store?

Good points and I agree, but I feel it’s a possibility especially if their PC strategy ends up being really successful for Sony. Seems like the release time frames are shortening if these rumors are factual. If I remember correctly, this is how it started with Microsoft where they were testing the waters with a few XBOX games which eventually lead to day one releases. We’ll see what happens.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

I'm not sure what "War" you're referring to.
I've been told multiple times how much Bloodborne should be on PC. Literally people crying for it lol...shit is pretty hilarious lol

I've also been told that even if PS games didn't come to PC, PC gamers have plenty of other games to entertain themselves with. You know, like the typical PC elitist rubbing it in the face of another person their hitler-like sense of superiority which pisses me off ( I have a, albeit not strong, gaming PC, so don't call me a PS fanboy.)

Get over it.

 

[BadBurger]

Somewhere, in the dark, in his cocoon, growing in power and metamorphosing, Bryan2K slumbers, dreaming the dreams of the vengeful.

 

[Punished Miku]

Just give me Dreams on PC motherfuckers.

I dont think PS gamers will cry about that one on PC lol.

 

[MrFunSocks]

It won’t ever make sense to be day 1 unless they make their own software platform. The exception is day 1 with this Uncharted4/ Lost Legacy combo but the games have technically been out for awhile.

Why on earth would Sony purposefully take a massive revenue deduction and release on PC Day 1 when their bread is well buttered on the PS Store?

There would be no revenue reduction, only a revenue increase. PC and Console video game markets are almost entirely separate with very little crossover. Tell me, has Xbox revenue been reducing since they started releasing their games on PC years ago?

 

[CrimsonSquall]

Good points and I agree, but I feel it’s a possibility especially if their PC strategy ends up being really successful for Sony. Seems like the release time frames are shortening if these rumors are factual. If I remember correctly, this is how it started with Microsoft where they were testing the waters with a few XBOX games which eventually lead to day one releases. We’ll see what happens.

There would be no revenue reduction, only a revenue increase. PC and Console video game markets are almost entirely separate with very little crossover. Tell me, has Xbox revenue been reducing since they started releasing their games on PC years ago?

Missing the forest for the trees. Microsoft has their own store platform, there is no revenue to be lost for them ofc.

It would make no logical business sense to release day and date with PS5 with PC because of the revenue loss of releasing on a Steam where they take a cut on sales.

The reason they are releasing later on PC at all is because yes ofc they will make money but they are looking at their internal data and going hmm okay GoW has reached a saturation on sales, this will only benefit us now to release it on PC.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Missing the forest for the trees. Microsoft has their own store platform, there is no revenue to be lost for them ofc.

It would make no logical business sense to release day and date with PS5 with PC because of the revenue loss of releasing on a Steam where they take a cut on sales.

The reason they are releasing later on PC at all is because yes ofc they will make money but they are looking at their internal data and going hmm okay GoW has reached a saturation on sales, this will only benefit us now to release it on PC.

Microsoft sell the majority of their PC games on Steam too most likely. Also you're the one missing the forest for the trees - like I said, the PC and console markets are almost entirely separate. Most of the people buying the games on PC weren't going to be buying them on console, they're new customers.

 

[Auldnoir]

It's becoming harder and harder to justify a 500€, paid-online box with 80€ games

 

[bender]

If I played games primarily on PC, and didn’t have a ps4 collection I wouldn’t give skipping ps5 a second thought.

The direction Sony's gone with their first party offerings has already made the platform pretty unattractive for me. After GT7 there just isn't anything I'm looking forward to.

Porting to PC doesn't really bother me. it's great for preservation if nothing else. The "downside" is that it let's Sony continue down the path of super expensive titles that play it really safe in terms of mechanics which really have very little appeal to me these days. I miss the days of Sony offering quirkier or more niche titles with unique gameplay ideas. I guess I'd also worry as the release timing from Sony's platform to PC continues to shrink, they'll look to other monetization avenues which they've traditionally been good about not abusing.

 

[martino]

It's becoming harder and harder to justify a 500€, paid-online box with 80€ games

Only if you miss that price is only a tiny part of the equation

 

[Bernd Lauert]

For the people wondering why Bloodborne isn't coming, it's likely the same reason why Bloodborne is not coming to PS5 and why it never got a PS4 Pro update. The code is likely spaghetti af so we need to wait for the remake.

 

[CrimsonSquall]

Microsoft sell the majority of their PC games on Steam too most likely. Also you're the one missing the forest for the trees - like I said, the PC and console markets are almost entirely separate. Most of the people buying the games on PC weren't going to be buying them on console, they're new customers.

That doesn’t matter. With Sony’s strategy, it will entice new players to want to get a PS5.

Ragnarok and Forbidden West will come soon and when they do, there will ofc be people who played them on PC that won’t want to wait however long till those games release on PC and just get them on PS5, or they will buy a PS console to go back and play the old GoW games.

 

[plip.plop]

The only people mad about previous, and future PS "exclusives" coming to PC are the ones knowing that the best version to play of the said game will not be on a console. Xbox owners have already been conditioned to this truth.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Ragnarok and Forbidden West will come soon and when they do, there will ofc be people who played them on PC that won’t want to wait however long till those games release on PC and just get them on PS5, or they will buy a PS console to go back and play the old GoW games.

But that doesn't make Sony much money especially not when they buy used discs. Sony makes money with 3rd party games and subscriptions. Why would a pc owner pay for online gaming or play 3rd party games in worse quality? Sony would make more money with Pc day1 releases, because their insane ~100m dollar marketing for their big AAAs would double tap and let them sell millions more on pc than years later without any marketing. I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of time until Sony will do so.

 

[yurinka]

Roll call for yurinka ?

Lol where's the guy that swore up and down that Sony wouldn't release anything that wasn't at least 2 years old (or more) even though all signs were pointing to the opposite?

It's a little bit more than that, read Barlow's post (#19) then look at the the image on OPs post.
The marmalade bit. That's it.

I'm still waiting to see a single fact to back the claim that this game is Sackboy or to the release date of this Steam project.

All we know is that it has a folder called 'sumoqa' so people assume -and may be wrong- it's a game from Sumo, who has over half a dozen development studios and work for diferent publishers. The project had the marmalade and Steel PC codenames which aren't related to Sackboy, it could be anything.

All are weak assumptions, nothing proves this game is Sackboy. And even if it was Sackboy, this is just the Steam depot. It could stay there for years before being released.

 

[martino]

2. Another view is if PS games come to PC, tons of PS gamers will quit playing PS4 or PS5 and buy a PC to play games there. They're willing to wait years, buy an RTX3000 loaded PC and drop all the benefits of console gaming like other third party console exclusives, a streamlined UI, trophies, friends lists etc.... Sell the console on Ebay and take that money and buy a PC rig

your're overestimating the fomo resistance of 4 generations raised to have none.

 

[Kokoloko85]

I find it hilarious how thristy PC gamers are for PS exclusives.

Weren't these same gamers saying that they had plenty of games to play on PC beside PS exclusives? Same shit for Bloodborne lol

Or they say I cant justice buying a console for a game or 2 lol

 

[MidGenRefresh]

2. They're willing to wait years, buy an RTX3000 loaded PC and drop all the benefits of console gaming like other third party console exclusives, a streamlined UI, trophies, friends lists etc....

I don't know when was the last time you played on PC but these "benefits" that you're listing exist on PC for a long ass time.

The only benefit of a console is convivence and cost. That's it. And for millions of people that's enough to never, ever touch a PC.