CheeseCake
Member
Can the mods start being more harsh towards the people that are using this as console warring?
It's fucking disgusting.
It's fucking disgusting.
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Senior VP of PSN allegedly tried to meet 15 year old for sex. Incident recorded by independent pedophile 'hunting group'
Dr Bass
Member
That is dark.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Right, because the press always fact check.
ManaByte
Member
That is dark.
It'll scar you for life.
What evidence do you have thats the case? How do you remove the fact that for the last 1000 years under governments with a legal system that came out of a largely Judeo-Christian belief system, homosexuality was a crime and therefore LGTBQ+ people were likely to be suppressed from representation?
Gameplaylover
Member
I was thinking the same, but it'll be a cold day in hell when that happens. Geoff's next tweet about Sony will be his congratulations for Ratchet winning GOTY.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Not a California thing, but a west coast thing. With the NE region being the lowest.
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And I'm not surprised one bit. There's definitely a general mentality difference between wild west pacific coasters vs. more yuppish straightlaced NE USA.
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Excess
Member
What planet do you live on?
I don't even know this thread belongs in this forum honestly.
Completely correct.
You cannot compare this to Activision or the other studios out there that have faced issues around sexual harassment and so on. In those cases the victims, and wrongdoers were employees. The company has a duty of care over it's employees, and it failed on that matter. Some then dug deeper to cover things up or didn't act when informed about issues.
This took place in a private individual's own personal time in their own private residence. You can't pin that on an employer.
I'd be curious to learn about employment law in California and how easy it is to fire someone for something like this though. It is the natural step for Sony to take now, and I guess they could easily make an argument that kids play video games thus he must be fired. But if he were say working in an old people's home with no kids about, I know some countries would take the view that firing him would be unfair dismissal.
For shit that they might get sued over, they definitely check with the legal teams.
At least the big ones do.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Semantics.
Concern
Member
Still waiting for you to provide evidence that I was justfying his actions.
Lol you already know what you posted. I said you guys can keep fighting the good fight for a reason. DefenseForce, name makes sense
dotnotbot
Member
I mean, ask psychiatrists and biologists and shit, not me. It's not my definition.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Is this what you're focusing on?
It's a creepy old dude looking for 13 / 15 year old kids for sex. Dude...call it what you want. It's sick, gross and illegal.
What an odd post to read wtf?
Dr Bass
Member
I'm unfortunately aware of the shenanigans. It was a perfect joke.
kingfey
Banned
"Actual caught sex offenders"TX and CA are also the two most populous states. If everything is evenly distributed they WOULD have the highest number of sex offenders. So Oregon and Montana are worse per capita. So CA is NOT a "haven" for sex offenders. Thank you for proving my point sir!
Edit: CA is near the bottom of your quoted list based on per capita. It's actually one of the better states for sex offender density.
See what assuming without examining data gets you?Banjo64 seriously believed what he was saying. I like you man, but this is a great lesson on being careful with opinions unless you can back them up with data.
List of U.S. states and territories by population - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
California is a heaven to these rich people. You dont hear about that much, since its easy for them to control the city.
If you follow Epstein case, you will know how these freaks carefully try to erase any existence of them.
Banjo64
cumsessed
2nd most number of nonces, twice as many as third place. Looks like nonce-land to me.TX and CA are also the two most populous states. If everything is evenly distributed they WOULD have the highest number of sex offenders. So Oregon and Montana are worse per capita. So CA is NOT a "haven" for sex offenders. Thank you for proving my point sir!
Edit: CA is near the bottom of your quoted list based on per capita. It's actually one of the better states for sex offender density.
See what assuming without examining data gets you?
List of U.S. states and territories by population - Wikipedia
How can Oregon and Montana be worse per capita when sick people are evenly distributed across the world?
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I don't. I am just theorizing. It seems to be a bigger problem today than in the past, but that's just anecdotal based on media observation, which admittedly may just be more apparent today than in the past (but not actually larger)
Dr Bass
Member
It's a weird thing to be hung up on in this thread. People use the term to basically mean desiring underage people. Screaming about the fact there is "grass on the lawn" so we are using the term incorrectly is weird. It's absolutely not the point in what happened.
dotnotbot
Member
Yeah, I agree it's immoral and where he lives it's also illegal. But there's a good reason why many civilized countries like Germany, Austria or Greece consider 14 and up as being legal.
bender
What time is it?
I'm guessing they'll ask him to take a leave of absence while they investigate.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You said I was defending his actions.
You can't show me any proof because you made up a false accusation. I just caught you lying and you're defending your obvious lie. Keep fighting the good fight, even though it makes you look ridiclous.
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Dr Bass
Member
Argh, there is always going to be a ranking, but that doesn't mean rates of distribution are wildly out of sync with each other i.e. the distribution is going to be basically "even" in a statistical sense.
Did you even look at the list? Look at the breakdown of per capita numbers. CA is towards the bottom. You're not getting it.
kingfey
Banned
worst market, is legalizing certain consent age. Anything below 18 is a kid. But these fuckers wants to make it 15 years old. Soon in the future, it will be 13, if the public accepts these consent age.
Dr Bass
Member
Absolutely. We had one at our workplace. Was placed on leave until it was tried. Got criminally convicted and then given the boot.
I guess Sony can at least respond quickly with a 'we've suspended him pending blah blah'.
ReBurn
Gold Member
StateofMajora
Banned
WOW. It will never cease to amaze me that fat old grey haird men thinks a kid would be interested.
Hope this guy sees justice done to him.
Hope this guy sees justice done to him.
DaGwaphics
Member
Chill dude. We are just discussing the issue. Obviously everything is just alleged at this point, and several people have alluded to that directly.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I'm using common sense. You're forcing a comparison that isn't there.
nush
Member
TX and CA are also the two most populous states. If everything is evenly distributed they WOULD have the highest number of sex offenders. So Oregon and Montana are worse per capita. So CA is NOT a "haven" for sex offenders. Thank you for proving my point sir!
Edit: CA is near the bottom of your quoted list based on per capita. It's actually one of the better states for sex offender density.
See what assuming without examining data gets you?
List of U.S. states and territories by population - Wikipedia
I read, and predicted you'd go for the " Per capita" deflection. Congratulations on being predictable.
Dr Bass
Member
Uh ... How is that a deflection?
Is there any other way to do it? I'm being predictably smart? Thanks?
Let's make a simple extrapolation here:
If a state has 100 million people, 1, million square miles of space and 1 million sex offenders, and another state has 50 million people, 500,000 square miles of space, and 750,000 sex offenders, which state is "worse" in terms of the number of registered sex offenders? Think for a second here.
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
What a disgusting perv this guy is and I do believe the accusations based on the video and the text messages. I hope the persone filming DID report this guy to the police.
I get that people want to laugh at Jim Ryan virtue-signaling about Activision and then this slimeball turns up soliciting a 15 yr-old for sex in his PS5 t-shirt. BUT this perv is is an individual and unless he was operating a pedo ring at Sony with Jim Ryan's blessing it really doesn't have anything to do with them.
In a company the size of Sony there are probably even more deviants and also at Microsoft and Nintendo but unless any of these and other companies have an environment of harboring and encouraging this kind of behavior they really aren't responsible for the behavior of some sicko employees.
I get that people want to laugh at Jim Ryan virtue-signaling about Activision and then this slimeball turns up soliciting a 15 yr-old for sex in his PS5 t-shirt. BUT this perv is is an individual and unless he was operating a pedo ring at Sony with Jim Ryan's blessing it really doesn't have anything to do with them.
In a company the size of Sony there are probably even more deviants and also at Microsoft and Nintendo but unless any of these and other companies have an environment of harboring and encouraging this kind of behavior they really aren't responsible for the behavior of some sicko employees.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
There are no good reasons.. f#%* off
To even defend such a thing is sickening really.
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How is it a deflection? Is using stats per capita not allowed? Its clearly makes sense that a population of 40m is going to have more criminals than a population of 2m. Population size is clearly a factor to total numbers of whatever.
Fare thee well
Neophyte
Dude as a Californian myself, I can definitely say the LA area and many parts of the SF Silicon area are laden with all kinds of wealthy-elite heinous shit.
but a lot of rural or midsize town cali is just the same as anywhere else: trying to make it by wondering wtf is going on when they read the news
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
In the charts, there's a big difference per state and even per region. Not sure how you can justify all states are going to be "statistically even".
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Dr Bass
Member
Well put and thoughtfully reasoned.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Wait... maybe I'm missing something but why are people comparing this to Activision?
One was work-related and a company that protected certain...activities in a work place.
This is not even related to any company. It's just a guy that works for Sony who's a pedo. His thing is not related to his work nor related to anyone at Sony right?
What a weird thing to use for console wars. Just read on twitter and people are trying way too hard to even compare both.
That said...I can imagine Sony issuing a statement during next week and the guy to be fired.
One was work-related and a company that protected certain...activities in a work place.
This is not even related to any company. It's just a guy that works for Sony who's a pedo. His thing is not related to his work nor related to anyone at Sony right?
What a weird thing to use for console wars. Just read on twitter and people are trying way too hard to even compare both.
That said...I can imagine Sony issuing a statement during next week and the guy to be fired.
Topher
Gold Member
The voice of reason.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Two reasons.
1. It's a high level guy doing pervy shit at a game company
2. People also bring up Sony having pervs when Jim Ryan white knighted their company while bashing Activision. So if this whole thing is true (looks legit IMO unless these guys are some reason faking it all for internet laughs), then it looks stupid how they got pervs on staff too
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iseedeadpeople
Member
So I'm guessing because of this scumbag everyone at psn will get some blame and not be in the awards?
envyzeal
Member
Where exactly that was at a game company?
ManaByte
Member
As bad as Activision was, it was adults with adults. This is a senior VP trying to get a 15 year old boy. A senior VP in charge of a service that many 15 year olds use on a daily basis. So it's not a good look at all and something Sony would want to squash before that becomes a headline on some more sensationalistic mainstream cable news shows.
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Dr Bass
Member
Yeah, you're right there. But, without going down a huge rabbit hole on a side discussion of human behavior and crime statistics, I have two simple points.
1. CA is WAY down the list on sex offenders. 30 states higher than CA.
2. Despite varying rates of prosecution, I think there are sick people everywhere, to the point where, yes, it's basically "evenly distributed." There is NO REASON for Oregon to be so much worse than CA (Oregon is the worst state) in numbers when we share borders. There is no reason for that invisible geographic border to make a difference in terms of "what lies in the hearts of men." So yeah, I think there is darkness and evil everywhere hidden in people. And no, I don't think it has to do with regions. The whole "CA is full of sick weirdos" beyond other states narrative is just silly and has no basis in reality or numbers.
Anyway, going to get outside while it's still light out for now. Really disappointing and disgusting series of events. I hope Sony fires the guy before the weekend is out. I'm sure most of us agree on that at least.
kingfey
Banned
This isnt just some tiny employee. This a high ranking employee. Activision can use this card against Sony, If Sony tries to say anything to them. This would have the same impact, If Aaron Greenberg did it.