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[NXGamer] The Best Graphics/Technology of 2021

SLB1904

Banned
Yep, it looks exactly like the movies where they need to render a single frame for like 50 hours in a render farm, but with a 500 dollars hardware.

You people really like to throw these hyperboles at him to make him mad uh :lollipop_grinning_sweat:

Not saying that vfx is without faults sometimes but this is hilarious even for a guy who think that ratchet deserve the first place on that list.
hey I'm not the only one
even professional game journalists think too
 

Loope

Member
It was a joke, man. I found it funny that Ricky was the only one using it on a harmless list of best graphics. I told him to stay strong. He asked why. I got a print of his laugh emoji. End of story. Get over yourself.
err i was clearly joking too. Of course i don't care if you going to call out the ones that used the emojis on VFX opinion.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It was a joke, man. I found it funny that Ricky was the only one using it on a harmless list of best graphics. I told him to stay strong. He asked why. I got a print of his laugh emoji. End of story. Get over yourself.

err i was clearly joking too. Of course i don't care if you going to call out the ones that used the emojis on VFX opinion.


Will Ferrell Lol GIF
 

GymWolf

Member
hey I'm not the only one
even professional game journalists think too
It has a pixar movie look sure, but looks ON PAR with what i explained to you is enough to make 1000 ps5 combined explode to render a single frame?! Na-ha.

Are you new to hyperboles and click bait articles?!

I mean we can go on with this useless discussion, but it is clear who is wrong here...

Unless pixar, dreamworks etc. Are a bunch of morons for using something like a render farm to render their movies instead of just calling insomniac with a ps5...

If you can't see how absurd this sound, then i'm done.
 
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Roxkis_ii

Member
Agree on Horizon not being that impressive, people calling it the best looking game ever always sounded crazy to me. It really does look very cross gen.
I'm an admitted Sony pony, and even I can't deny its looks like a Ps4.5 game. So many people were gushing about the how good it looks in the trailer thread and I was just confused. I thought maybe they were watching it on better screens then myself.
 

JackMcGunns

Member
I was just about to post how I can't see how Flight Sim isn't there over even the likes of FH5, if we're talking about graphics and technology then it's about as next gen as they come and yet cross gen games are on that list, just seems funny to me.


You're right about Flight Simulator, it should've at least made the list.
 

Sosokrates

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He puts FH5 at number 3 but then says for a poster child for the seriesX its not good enough?

Im guessing its because its a cross gen game. I just hope hes consistent in his opinion and says the same for horizon forbidden west and god of war Ragnarok.


He also said that there is not a rift apart equivalent on the XSX in 2021, well all I can say is, good luck in trying to get flight sim, FH5 or halo infinite at the same fedlity on last gen asit is on the XSX.
 
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Riky

$MSFT
He puts FH5 at number 3 but then says for a poster child for the seriesX its not good enough?

Im guessing its because its a cross gen game. I just hope hes consistent in his opinion and says the same for horizon forbidden west and god of war Ragnarok.

Yeah that's going to be VERY interesting, he's got plenty to say about Series X in this video, let's see if he stays consistent this year.
 

Coolwhhip

Neophyte
I'm an admitted Sony pony, and even I can't deny its looks like a Ps4.5 game. So many people were gushing about the how good it looks in the trailer thread and I was just confused. I thought maybe they were watching it on better screens then myself.

Meant Forza, damn those similar names 🤖
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
...what reference??
Yep, it looks exactly like the movies where they need to render a single frame for like 50 hours in a render farm, but with a 500 dollars hardware.

You people really like to throw these hyperboles at him to make him mad uh :lollipop_grinning_sweat:

Not saying that vfx is without faults sometimes but this is hilarious even for a guy who think that ratchet deserve the first place on that list.
 

Heisenberg007

Gold Journalism
Ratchet and Returnal are on top of the list, which is not at all surprising. They are the best-looking, most technically advanced games we got in 2021.

I'm a little surprised that GOTG didn't feature on this list somewhere. But overall, very cool list! All great games that everyone should enjoy.
 
Solid list. Glad that Ascent is getting some recognition, the amount of details in that game is borderline absurd. Only made by 20ish people!
 

Sosokrates

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Yeah that's going to be VERY interesting, he's got plenty to say about Series X in this video, let's see if he stays consistent this year.

Im really looking forward to see what guerilla and SSM do witht he PS5 versions. I think Horizon + Ragnarok will scale like FH5 with varrying levels of surface detail, lighting effects, texture quality and foliage density. However the overall lighting model, the majority of world objects will remain the same as the PS4 versions.

We are already seeing this, Horizon on PS5 looks to have higher overall resolution and higher geometric detail on certain elements.
 

Topher

Gold Member
But as someone pointed out Ride 4 was a 2020 game and got mentioned so I think I made my point.

Not "somehow" at all. Ride 4 released on PS5 and XSX in January 2021 with enhancements for the new generation. He points this out in the video.
 

sircaw

Banned
The fur on Ratchet is horrendous. Games still can't create a good hair shader that holds up. The shader that I developed for film is way too expensive for videogames in realtime. R&C is using actual curves for geometry but the shading/lighting looks just as bad as most games - especially in gameplay.

"lollipop_disappointed: :messenger_heart:
 
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Riky

$MSFT
Not "somehow" at all. Ride 4 released on PS5 and XSX in January 2021 with enhancements for the new generation. He points this out in the video.

I didn't say "somehow" if we're just using graphical enhancements as a new game then there have been lots of them for next gen consoles. That hardly qualifies as a new release in the way the Series versions of FS were actually released and didn't exist before 2021, as I said the Series release came with engine changes that came to the PC as well including a change to the weather system. This became the GOTY version which is stated by MS to be a 2021 game.
 

Sosokrates

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GymWolf

Member
I'm an admitted Sony pony, and even I can't deny its looks like a Ps4.5 game. So many people were gushing about the how good it looks in the trailer thread and I was just confused. I thought maybe they were watching it on better screens then myself.
Not a sony pony but horizon was my gotg and horizon 2 is my most hyped game of the year by far so the bias is there, but i never thought for a moment that it looked like a fully nextgen game (and people can research my posts about it, even before knowing that it wasn't crossgen).

I think people are impressed by the game for a number of factors:

-without considering crossgen, nextgen etc, the game looks gorgeous to begin with, it really is at least top 5 of best graphic ever in a game, some would say top 3, very few even best graphic ever.

-it looks on par or better than demons\ratchet, even if those games are fully nextgen (ands smaller in scope) and made by people who know how to make great graphics, this is highly impressive.

-the art design and how colors pops out make the game looks better than it really is, similar to tsushima.

-people forget how good horizon still looks today, except for aloy, the models of erend or sylens or the thirsty black guy or the other npcs they showed are not a clear jump from the past game, same for the dinobots, they were already crazy detailed in the first one, in the sequel they just fixed the few low res textures they had, they look better but they don't look nextgen only better.


hellblade 2 and maybe wukong are the only games that i consider fully nextgen looking, and wukong still has some old gen stuff in it.
 
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Fredrik

Member
Otherwise we could start arguing that Death Stranding and GoT Director's Cuts are missing.
They kinda are tbh….
As far as I’m concerned every game that has had a new release on a new platform should count in these lists, it doesn’t matter one bit when the game was released on the original platform imo. And if that means an old game would win again because other devs can’t manage to compete with old games then it’s their problem.
Moss was my top 5 this year but I couldn’t vote for it on the GAF GOTY voting because it had already been released on PSVR or whatever. Couldn’t vote for Fantasian either, no idea why, it’s a new game but not on consoles as if that should matter. Made me end my list after 4 votes.

As for the graphics competition I agree that Ratchet is #1.
The Ascent is my #2. There are tiny details everywhere, most lived in game world I’ve ever seen, looks phenomenal if you stop and study it.
I really like the visuals in FF7RI too, the characters looks absolutely top-notch. I don’t like the game though but that’s another topic.

If demos count then the Matrix demo is #1. Everything looks meh now, including #1 Ratchet. The demo ruined me. I can’t go back. Only problem is the framerate but it shows a blindingly bright future for PC gaming at least.
 
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Topher

Gold Member
I didn't say "somehow" if we're just using graphical enhancements as a new game then there have been lots of them for next gen consoles. That hardly qualifies as a new release in the way the Series versions of FS were actually released and didn't exist before 2021, as I said the Series release came with engine changes that came to the PC as well including a change to the weather system. This became the GOTY version which is stated by MS to be a 2021 game.

I misread "someone". Yes, there have been plenty of visual enhancements but this isn't an exhaustive list of every game that has been enhanced. And obviously the list is not limited to games that were initially released in 2021. It seems he does not think the changes made to FS warranted being on the list. You simply disagree with him and that is fine, but this search for "gotchas" is unwarranted.
 

JLB

Banned
I was just about to post how I can't see how Flight Sim isn't there over even the likes of FH5, if we're talking about graphics and technology then it's about as next gen as they come and yet cross gen games are on that list, just seems funny to me.

Indeed, missing Flight Sim its a big oversight.
Maybe someone could say that is a game that was originally released on 2020, but that was for PC. The fact that that game runs on a Series S and its not even listed is weird.

Yeah, I know you are around here NXGamer NXGamer . Just shitting around because thats what I do great on Fridays! :p
 

Topher

Gold Member
Indeed, missing Flight Sim its a big oversight.
Maybe someone could say that is a game that was originally released on 2020, but that was for PC. The fact that that game runs on a Series S and its not even listed is weird.

Yeah, I know you are around here NXGamer NXGamer . Just shitting around because thats what I do great on Fridays! :p

For the record, MS FS made his list of 2020 games:

 

JLB

Banned
For the record, MS FS made his list of 2020 games:



Yup, though FS2020 running on Series S... thats kind of an achievement.
Also though I completely hate superheroes, Gardians of the Galaxy looks just too good. But yeah, tastes and opinions.
 
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