As you get older and deal with companies more you will realize most large company upper management are idiots and have no idea what goes on in the trenches of real work it does.I've bought every single Xbox (bar that piece of shit XSS), and Microsoft have been so goddamn inept since the Xbox One. Geeeeeeeezus just fire upper management already.
When Phil claimed that PlayStation wasn't a competitor, I was like WTF is this shit.
But then there's also the fact that most people see that Xbox isn't being able to compete, see their current trajectory is wrong because their handling of 1st parties is horrible and buying more studios and publishers is simply going to amplify everything bad that they already do.
The implication is that a quality game won't matter and isn't a red flag for them.
I heard what Phil said about Red Fall how he wouldn't have released it if he thought it wouldn't have reviewed better and were tested internally. I heard him say the bugs were acceptable and the biggest issue was the 60fps.
Rumors that were right about the state of Redfall also were in the same sentence as Starfield.
I am a customer too. I own their product. I am subscribed to GP.
The implication is that a quality game won't matter and isn't a red flag for them.
I heard what Phil said about Red Fall how he wouldn't have released it if he thought it wouldn't have reviewed better and were tested internally. I heard him say the bugs were acceptable and the biggest issue was the 60fps.
Rumors that were right about the state of Redfall also were in the same sentence as Starfield.
But Ballmer "would want to talk to us about how we're thinking about subscriptions and what the value proposition was, and what went behind the subscription wall, and what was in front of the subscription wall. It felt like exactly the same meeting Bill would have, but from a different direction. The same passion, the same desire, the same engagement, and by the way, the exact same memory."
When Peter Moore (pictured right), former president of Sega of America, arrived as a top Xbox executive, he sat in a meeting with CEO Steve Ballmer, who went into one of his classic shouting routines. Noting that Xbox Live was Microsoft’s ace, he shouted, “Xbox Live!” and pounded the table. He did it over and over. “Xbox Live! Xbox Live! Xbox Live!” Then he slammed into the Polycom conference phone with his fist, breaking it. He looked sheepish. Ed Fries turned to the astonished Moore and said, “Welcome to Microsoft.”
He's being totally honest tho. When you have a subscription model that makes money either way why would you care about good games. Microsoft wants to monopolize the gaming bussiness that's why they bought Activision. Easy profit easy continously money.People were pissed when Phil downplayed the importance of good games.
That's not people wanting Xbox to fail. That's wanting Xbox to get back to what they once were.
Yeah, exactly. I'm not sure where Phil got this idea that the expectation some supposedly have is that MS must make game great so PS5 owners will abandon PlayStation. Just nonsense.
The expectation I and others have is that Microsoft must make great games and add them to the Xbox library so the platform has value. Microsoft is doing a shit job of that. Downplaying making great games and making this shit about console war nonsense was just stupid. Phil should know better.
He responded to that in the context of people pushing for them to meet or exceed Sony in console marketshare.
Reads more like a realistic take. In his view, losing the XB1 generation so badly has put them on the back foot for console sales for the next generation, and he’s saying that it’s unlikely that it’ll be reversed even with great games on Xbox.
I don’t think any of his statements indicated an unwillingness to make great AAA games or provide quality for Gamepass.
A lot of what he said has been taken out of context, and it’s weird seeing people pretend that a lot of conversation here about both consoles isn’t about marketshare and comparative lifetime sales
Implication was alongside the result of Redfall which is they can't estimate how good of quality their game is if they allowed it to release that way.That was never implied, though.
Of course there are lessons to be learnt from Redfall. Like he said, their internal projections were higher. I’m willing to bet majority of studios also imagine they’d review higher. Internal tests for Callisto Protocol and Forspoken would most certainly have been higher, for example. And this is a bias they’ll have to work on eliminating for their next games.
What he said was that crash rates were within acceptable rates in internal testing. Another learning point for them to possibly expand testing.
Diablo 4 was also in that same rumor as a technical mess. And yet the betas were very successful.
Shouldn’t that tell you that its credibility is suspect?
While there is a level of persecution complex no doubt.I think there's some persecution complex here.
Most people want Xbox to succeed. I want Xbox to succeed. Ideally they'd have 33% of the console market, or throw in 25% of the console market and bring back Sega. Ideally they'd all be on a race to the bottom in console price and a race to the top in title quality.
But then there's also the fact that most people see that Xbox isn't being able to compete, see their current trajectory is wrong because their handling of 1st parties is horrible and buying more studios and publishers is simply going to amplify everything bad that they already do.
They weren’t around when one company controlled 99% of the market to remember the absolute bangers that produced.
Ok, well then if he "honestly" doesn't see the value in good games, then I guess I DO want him to fail and be replaced with someone who does.He's being totally honest tho. When you have a subscription model that makes money either way why would you care about good games. Microsoft wants to monopolize the gaming bussiness that's why they bought Activision. Easy profit easy continously money.
They weren’t around when one company controlled 99% of the market to remember the absolute bangers that produced.
They are never going back to tht now.just forget it.even from outset of Microsoft it was about squeezing out money from consumers.subscrition model wayyy back in 2002 was Microsoft idea.their initial idea was we are going to make great games halo and gears of war for example but you cant play them without paying subscription.its not until now their full vision is becoming a reality. Complete subscritpion model where great games are locked behind their paywall.easy money no work execs get great bonuses layoff more staffNo one wants Xbox to fail We want XBOX pre Kinect BACK! If they insist to make only B tier games forcing mp, coop or gaas on everything they deserve to fail.
If they focus on high quality SP games first they don't deserve to fail, it was what they did for 10 years.
I want more Japanese-centric games produced by Sony. Team Asobi is not enough to supply my needs for Japanese exclusives like we used to have back in the PS2/PS3 era.I want Xbox to beat PS this gen so that they can start putting in effort again. Sony has gotten so complacent over the past 10 years it's ridiculous.
Yes some people said that but plenty of people also defended the opposite, that this was Xbox big turn around, games were finally coming. Phil said that he takes full responsibility for the way red fall launched.You've got to laugh at them, they were not long ago crying that Hi Fi Rush is nothing to do with MS as it was in development before the acquisition, yet now they are certain that everything wrong with Redfall is down to Phil Spencer .
These people are so transparent it's embarrassing.
No, he did not. PlayStation wasn't mentioned at all. The interviewer asked about adding more value to the Xbox console like they are doing with improving the interface. Phil Spencer went on this console war tangent entirely on his own.
Intended irony?I want Xbox to beat PS this gen so that they can start putting in effort again. Sony has gotten so complacent over the past 10 years it's ridiculous.
I just went and rewatched it again and you’re definitely not following the context.
He was asked about concerns about console being neglected with the strong focus on PC.
A response that reiterates that Xbox is Cloud, PC and console isn’t out of place. Also the subsequent impact of that plus the ground already lost in the disastrous Xbox one generation on console marketshare.
You honestly look at what PlayStation is putting out and what Xbox is putting out and come to the conclusion it's SONY that isn't trying?I want Xbox to beat PS this gen so that they can start putting in effort again. Sony has gotten so complacent over the past 10 years it's ridiculous.