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Steam curator warns players if Sweet Baby is involved in a game

Eiknarf

Member
Dude if you look at Spider-Man 2 MJ and still think thats not happening IDK what to say.
Oh I see the jaws of females in games are larger.. No doubt

But what I’m asking is, did any game developer come out and say they’re doing that with the purpose of making trans women feel welcome?
 
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skyfall

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did any game developer come out and say they’re doing that with the purpose of making trans women feel welcome?

Yes, at leat naughty dog has



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Eiknarf

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Yes, at leat naughty dog has


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Whoa!
characters designed in such a way to not make trans people feel uncomfortable. Every single new character introduced in the sequel does not have definitive feminine or masculine qualities.”

That’s a weird business position to stand on.

Only 0.6% of the population is trans. And only 0.3% of the population are trans females.

Why cater to the 0.3% ?

Imagine doing that today with any other business? An electronics store that sells only 8-Track Cassette players and Electronic Beepers and Dial Up Modems?

A restaurant that only serves Monkey Brains and Bird’s Nest Soup
 

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kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Whoa!
characters designed in such a way to not make trans people feel uncomfortable. Every single new character introduced in the sequel does not have definitive feminine or masculine qualities.”

That’s a weird business position to stand on.

Only 0.6% of the population is trans. And only 0.3% of the population are trans females.

Why cater to the 0.3% ?

0.3%? That's only true if EVERY trans female complains about feminine looking women in games and ALL of them play video games. That's obviously not the case. The reality is that it's a minority within a minority within yet another minority that ruins gaming for everyone else.
 

Eiknarf

Member
0.3%? That's only true if EVERY trans female complains about feminine looking women in games and ALL of them play video games. That's obviously not the case. The reality is that it's a minority within a minority within yet another minority that ruins gaming for everyone else.

Facts
 
I think dev teams (even the ones that have more extreme views on this) think that by making this changes they are not affecting "much" and they prove themselves by looking at the sales of the specific game were they made those changes. But my feeling is that (at least confirmed by my own behavior) is that the first time they do this, you give them a free pass, second time you can probably get annoyed but still buy, but the third time most people would just be done with it. I think many of this political forced-inclusions they have been doing will only see a real decline in sales by like the third iteration of any game.
 

lmimmfn

Member
Whoa!
characters designed in such a way to not make trans people feel uncomfortable. Every single new character introduced in the sequel does not have definitive feminine or masculine qualities.”

That’s a weird business position to stand on.

Only 0.6% of the population is trans. And only 0.3% of the population are trans females.

Why cater to the 0.3% ?

Imagine doing that today with any other business? An electronics store that sells only 8-Track Cassette players and Electronic Beepers and Dial Up Modems?

A restaurant that only serves Monkey Brains and Bird’s Nest Soup
That's why you shouldn't buy this shit!
 

laynelane

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One of the authors whom instigated a number of false reports to try and demonize the group and all those that agree with it outwardly stated that they aren't interest in posting the truth, they just want drama.


I'm so glad that very few people are buying the 'poor SBI is just a scapegoat for all the hateful gamers', 'gamers don't understand game development', 'gamers are this label or that label', etc. The majority are just normal people who have had enough, particularly in view of the toxic behavior of SBI, their supporters, and certain gaming media sites. They'll keep trying to change the narrative, of course, but I hope everyone keeps refusing to be gaslit and labelled by these disingenuous and loathsome people.
 
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marquimvfs

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I'm following the matter closely, but holy shit, some X posts are pure lunacy. I agree with the curator and all the folks that post here, but you need to have your shit together if you want to read anything outside GAF. Both because you're in danger of believing the narrative that the game "media" is trying to sell, and because you will see some shit like this:


I laughed, hard, but someone might believe this or a "journalist", and we will be labeled crazy because of either.
 
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One of the authors whom instigated a number of false reports to try and demonize the group and all those that agree with it outwardly stated that they aren't interest in posting the truth, they just want drama.

So, instead of factual reporting she deliberately wants to twist the truth. Her entire credibility as a "gaming journalist" just evaporated in an instant.
 
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StueyDuck

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So, instead of factual reporting she deliberately wants to twist the truth. Her entire credibility as a "gaming journalist" just evaporated in an instant.
None of these people were or ever have been journalists.

It's good to see people waking up to that fact.

As an aside, it's interesting that all their articles are using Nazi colors..
Red black and white.

This verge article and the one from, was it Wired?

Either way very interesting that of all the ways she could of presented that article, that is what she chooses.
 
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Zathalus

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I'm following the matter closely, but holy shit, some X posts are pure lunacy. I agree with the curator and all the folks that post here, but you need to have your shit together if you want to read anything outside GAF. Both because you're in danger of believing the narrative that the game "media" is trying to sell, and because you will see some shit like this:


I laughed, hard, but someone might believe this or a "journalist", and we will be labeled crazy because of either.

It's sad to watch. People have a point about Sweet Baby Inc being terrible which I'm fully onboard with. But then you start getting people ranting about satanistic Jewish conspiracies with some secret pedophile cabal and you completely loose me. Going far left is pretty bad, but this far right nonsense is even worse.
 

StueyDuck

Member
It's sad to watch. People have a point about Sweet Baby Inc being terrible which I'm fully onboard with. But then you start getting people ranting about satanistic Jewish conspiracies with some secret pedophile cabal and you completely loose me. Going far left is pretty bad, but this far right nonsense is even worse.
How sure are we that those people aren't just plants though. 🤷‍♂️
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
How sure are we that those people aren't just plants though. 🤷‍♂️
There is a problem with centre right and right politicians or leaning folks in general not engaging in the Humanities field or with pop culture and arts. Not nearly as much as people on the left side of the spectrum. You generally see memes, disdain, apathy, or passive aggressive support for the enemy of my enemy…
 
A very basic propaganda tactic is to infiltrate wackos on the other side to tarnish their sound arguments and make them look like crazy, negationists, supremacists... The mainstream media has been perfecting this since 2020.

Does that ring any bell?

Even in the Stellar Blade discord/Reddit they are doing shit like that, for a harmless game with zero impact. Don't fall for that crap.
 

marquimvfs

Member
A very basic propaganda tactic is to infiltrate wackos on the other side to tarnish their sound arguments and make them look like crazy, negationists, supremacists... The mainstream media has been perfecting this since 2020.

Does that ring any bell?

Even in the Stellar Blade discord/Reddit they are doing shit like that, for a harmless game with zero impact. Don't fall for that crap.
It's possible that someone infiltrate to do that, but I don't think that's the case. Anyway, I don't fall for that, my post was more a warning than anything.
 

Bernardougf

Gold Member
So, instead of factual reporting she deliberately wants to twist the truth. Her entire credibility as a "gaming journalist" just evaporated in an instant.
There isnt "gaming journalism" anymore in the mainstream...what you got are activists, that more often than not dont even like gaming, writing for political/social reasons and/or to get in western companys good graces so they can receive access and free shit.
 

Silver Wattle

Gold Member
There isnt "gaming journalism" anymore in the mainstream...what you got are activists, that more often than not dont even like gaming, writing for political/social reasons and/or to get in western companys good graces so they can receive access and free shit.
If only GG stayed true to the initial cause, maybe gaming journalism wouldn't be 6ft under at the bottom of an abandoned mine.
Don't let them twist it on us again by inviting the crazies into the topic, people need to stay focused on the core complaint(DEI).
 

Guilty_AI

Member
If only GG stayed true to the initial cause, maybe gaming journalism wouldn't be 6ft under at the bottom of an abandoned mine.
Don't let them twist it on us again by inviting the crazies into the topic, people need to stay focused on the core complaint(DEI).
I'd say gaming journalism went 6ft under largely in part of GG, or at least GG was the culmination of years of built-up distrust towards it. It exposed the shady business that went on behind the scenes and that these "journalists" were as good as gossip bloggers.

Now they're, deservingly, pretty much a dying medium and being replaced by better alternatives, the few good ones hanging on with actual worthwhile content.

And once again, this new "GG" is just the culmination of years of built-up frustration with the quality of big modern games. I'd say DEI is just a part of the equation, a symptom of poor decision-making, out-of-touch CEOs running the business and bloated budgets.
 
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One of the authors whom instigated a number of false reports to try and demonize the group and all those that agree with it outwardly stated that they aren't interest in posting the truth, they just want drama.

It seems the industry is poisoned with this DEI garbage that SBI pushes and these devs and journalists that defend them over it. Hopefully the fallout from this will be the start of an end to this shite in games. One can hope.
 

Bernardougf

Gold Member
It seems the industry is poisoned with this DEI garbage that SBI pushes and these devs and journalists that defend them over it. Hopefully the fallout from this will be the start of an end to this shite in games. One can hope.
Its a problem when most of the media and western studios are infected with this people, and areas such as HR are practically dominated by them.

Is like Disney.. they already can see they have a DEI problem.. but wtf they are going to do after all this years ? Fire everybody ? At least 50%+ work force ?

This big companys are going to pay for a long time because of this woke policies and diversity hires they did.

And who ever tought that hiring by color/gender/political alliance and not exclusively by merit would severely diminish product quality output and therefore profit.

People think this DEI problem is only about making ugly woman in games and bad story lines... the problem goes all the way to the core of these companys.. the shitty game is just the final output
 
Its a problem when most of the media and western studios are infected with this people, and areas such as HR are practically dominated by them.

Is like Disney.. they already can see they have a DEI problem.. but wtf they are going to do after all this years ? Fire everybody ? At least 50%+ work force ?

You don't need to fire everybody though. You simply need to start at the top. Once the heads are replaced they can start to manage everyone below them. When ideas come up that they no longer want they simply tell the people no. If they can't get the job done then you fire them and hire someone else who can. Sure you'll have some people who wont want to change but I'm sure you'll have plenty who just want to do a good job and keep working and maintaining their lifestyle. They'll be satisfied with bitching in the background.
 
I've said or rather alluded to it earlier. The dumbest fucking move was thinking the corporations are their allies.

No. When the low sales (for any reason) ramp up, the corporations will use these groups as an external scapegoat. They will cite "realigning" and "keeping things in house" as they cancel contracts and throw them under the bus. These consultanting groups are a lightning rod to deflect all blame from the suits.

They better get that grift money while they can.
 
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