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Boeing Whistleblower found dead. Was in the process of testifying
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jufonuk
not tag worthy
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Sonik
Member
I’m being silly. I got the work ufo in my user name.
Arms dealers are genuinely evil and a state within a state in the US, this isn't even a conspiracy theory, these fucks have endless connections if they want to murder someone
Last Hearth
Member
Corporation itself, no. Individual corporate executives who faces the end of their careers and/or criminal liabilities, don't be so sure.
Because the protection usually comes from the same people that want them dead.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
So ... risk going to jail for life or getting the golden parachute, go earn money at Lockheed Martin and enjoy live. No higher up is facing criminal liabilities. Its always another low level engineer signing off stuff etc.
Bry0
Member
While it’s possible he may have felt some sort of responsibility for “not doing enough” or something like that (that’s pure speculation by me based on what may drive this person do that) it would be stupid not to investigate this as potential foul play. But even if it was investigated that way, who is to say we would get the truth anyway?
Very unfortunate.
Very unfortunate.
NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
Boeing Whistleblower's Attorneys Say No Signs Client Was Suicidal
The Boeing whistleblower's attorneys say he didn't appear suicidal before he died -- which is why they think his death is incredibly suspicious ... and are calling for answers immediately.
www.tmz.com
Tams
Member
Boeing must work with consultants on this legal case
Nuh uh.
I ain't getting on the Clinton's shitlist.
Mikado
Member
Yeah I don't mean police or gov't-supplied, I mean private contractors.
Part of it is accountability. Like if this dude contracted some PMC-ass company to watch his ass for massive cost, and their ex-marine-ass motherfuckers failed and didn't die in their boots - it looks bad for everyone.
I mean, sure the contractors are part of the System but so are like, Lockheed-Martin, and I bet they would be happy to foot the bill hahah. Or SAAB. Or Northrop-Grumman, or....
I don't know. Obviously since this happens all the time, it's not that simple. And mercifully I don't know anything about that world. It just seems like it shouldn't be so easy to manufacture "Mysterious Circumstances" without at least causing the attacker to make a noisy mess - even though I guess this is an example of getting caught out and still facing no circumstances.
Sonik
Member
If he was so upset about it he surely would wait until his final deposition is over to make sure this won't happen again, right?
Apocryphon
Member
Facism
Member
fr imagine having to suck off Bill as a consequence.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Guess he was gonna say some shit that wasn't gonna fly.
dem
Member
Boeing is America. America is Boeing.
It will most definitely fade into nothing.
Neon Xenon
Member
Right into the Memory Hole, unfortunately.
Dirk Benedict
Member
This is sad... the last 5 years have been more eye opening than the last 20, at least for myself.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Whatever dirt he had, it must have been bad for him to get Epsteined
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
It's situations like this where I always roll my eyes at conspiracy nuts.
In situations like this those people always believe that the big bad evil in question is nefarious and smart enough to carry out an assassination for their own gain......
....without also realizing that a person in position like this being found dead regardless of the official circumstances looks bad on the big bad evil in question. Worse than if it they had just rode the situation out. Especially a publicly traded entity like Boeing.
A company or individual would have to be fucking insane to even try it in today's world with all the infinite surveillance and technology on hand. The only people that can get away with shit like this anymore are the people like Putin who kills people and the world knows he kills people, but he doesn't have to worry about it because reasons.
In situations like this those people always believe that the big bad evil in question is nefarious and smart enough to carry out an assassination for their own gain......
....without also realizing that a person in position like this being found dead regardless of the official circumstances looks bad on the big bad evil in question. Worse than if it they had just rode the situation out. Especially a publicly traded entity like Boeing.
A company or individual would have to be fucking insane to even try it in today's world with all the infinite surveillance and technology on hand. The only people that can get away with shit like this anymore are the people like Putin who kills people and the world knows he kills people, but he doesn't have to worry about it because reasons.
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Lucifers Beard
Member
The world is truly fucked when that's a wrap on the death of someone who likely had absolutely no intention of killing himself.
Lucifers Beard
Member
Yeah, he really blew the doors off that one.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
On the other side it is always like this, we look in the past at actual conspiracies and then think that “oh but now it is impossible” <insert whatever today’s date dynamically when the post is read>.
Also, some big military contractor connected to CIA/NSA and government killing off their citizens might be unlikely but impossible? Really?
FunkMiller
Member
While it is of course idiotic to suggest this guy was deliberately assassinated (this is Boeing we're talking about, not Hydra) I can equally and absolutely believe that this man took his own life due to the pressure being exerted on him by Boeing executives and legal counsel.
We don't live in a world of midnight assassins... but we do live in a world of unscrupulous companies who will quite happily drive a former employee to their grave.
Boeing did not kill this guy.
But there's every chance Boeing killed this guy.
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Toots
Gold Member
It's nice of you to always use marvel or disney's lore references with your takes so we know they come from a braindead person.
If you think some guy who was going to hurt Boeing bottom line by billions of $ if he testified could not have been assassinated, you truly are naive.
FunkMiller
Member
No. I just live in the real world. It is an incredibly difficult thing to successfully have a person assassinated, without leaving a trail of evidence and again... this is Boeing we're talking about, not The League Of Shadows. Assassination of the physical kind isn't necessary anyway. Assassinating someone's credibility, livelihood and future enough that they commit suicide is more than enough.
If you engage in silly fantasy, you allow reality to go unexamined and unappreciated. And the reality is that major corporations get away with disgusting treatment and harassment of their employees and ex-employees, because the system and the law allow them to. This poor guy had PTSD and severe anxiety. Nobody needs to invent conspiracies about assassination plots, when there's more than likely ample evidence of what they actually did to him.
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I'm reminded of the death of David Kelly, a former weapons inspector employed to find weapons of mass destruction. He leaked information to the BBC that the UK government had "sexed up" intelligence about Iraq to make the public accept war with Iraq. He committed suicide just a month later, but there are many who think it was murder.
Hudo
Member
While I agree with your statement, I also think it might be easier to pull something like this off for Boeing because they're a major military manufacturer and supplier. The military industrial complex is into all sorts of shit and many things are more willfully "overlooked" by government agencies. But I also don't think he was assassinated. At least not directly, as in, sending some dude to kill the guy. He could've been bullied/triggered into suicide, tho. If he was really mentally unstable.
Mistake
Member
That may be true, but all that means nothing if you have a prosecutor or judge with aligned interests. Boeing is so large of a company, they can never go under with government bail outs, so none of this would surprise me.
But suicide is also a very touch subject, and some of the least likely people you think would try, still do. My girlfriend's parents had a dentist that offed himself last month. They knew him for years and they still can't believe it. No signs
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Bert Big Balls
Member
Pretty sure he shot himself 8 times in the back of his own head.
Alebrije
Member
Just imagine FAA is ruled by Boeing , basically they auto certify thier planes...it's like if FAA was the QC department of Being.
daffyduck
Member
Toots
Gold Member
What you say basically is of course boeing is responsible for this guy's death but through legal means and not thuggish ways. But the dude needed to be dead before testifying, you really think boeing would let this dude a chance to testify by using scare tactics which could potentially work too late ?Once again you seem to equate assassination with what you see in movies... If you cannot fathom boeing hiring a bunch of thugs to come to this guy's house in the middle of the night and leave only when he has committed "suicide", mafia style, you are the one engaging in silly fantasy.
You really think the types who run this company would leave its bottom line to chance ? You're very naive if you think those in a domineering position would leave anything to chance concerning their unchallenged domination of society. Your life, mine doesn't matter, those who govern us have already sacrified a lot more people for a lot less profit.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
You really think Boing cares what the guy had to say? They’ll pay a billion dollar fine, get a US contract to build another hundred airplanes and businesses goes on as usual.
VW payed an equivalent fine of 20billion dollars for the Dieselgate scandal, no one was murdered. VW payed and moved on. No one of these managers really care. They get their golden parachute and then “don’t remember “ anything in court. Case closed.
NecrosaroIII
Ask me about my terrible takes on Star Trek characters
No one was murdered that we know of.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Oh don't get me wrong. I 100% believe that the suicide is genuine.
The guy spent his entire life working for a company that has gone down the toilet in terms of safety. We have deaths and injuries over the course of years and this guy was a part of the company doing it. Then he blows the whistle on the company and probably alienated himself from all the friends that he made in the industry as a result.
Between the loneliness, the possible guilt, and any underlying mental issues he already had it makes sense that the situation ended the way it has.
but why not wait until the deposition is over??
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
They're part of the military industrial complex. Truman warned us about this shit.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
This sounds suspiciously close to the Enron "suicides"
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Suicidal people are rarely of sound mind and worried about other people's schedules.