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EDGE: Why "increasingly frustrated journalists" need MS to reveal its new Xbox
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LittleJohnny
Banned
Even if the tech is great- I don't want to play games that way. I want to be a lazy piece of shit and sit in front of my TV, as most people who play games do.
Ahh, always there to defend Microsoft if I remember that avatar correctly.
Polishin8r
Member
That was one of Microsoft employ's attitude and perhaps it mimics the environment he works within
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Do you live in a bubble?
rudieboy77
Member
I hope they do not announce anything, all the speculation and rumors is amazing fodder for dozens of threads a day on the internets...
It's Prine. Has been like this ever since the first Xbox. It's pretty funny (and sad) to read.
I hope nobody actually supports Always Online or it could be very bad for gamers going forward. :/
Always online is not the same as internet required. My 3DS, Wii, PC, TV, tablet and phone are always online. They are always connected to the internet, but they don't require the internet. Big difference here.
OUT FOX EM
Neo Member
It's very possible that Microsoft is using a common political tactic, which is to leak various information and see how people respond without officially *announcing* anything. They can then decide which ideas to keep and which to scrap.
That strategy is certainly not far-fetched. It does Microsoft no good to rush into an announcement right now, just because there's a screaming mob begging for it. Quite the opposite, in fact.
That strategy is certainly not far-fetched. It does Microsoft no good to rush into an announcement right now, just because there's a screaming mob begging for it. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Another one from me to him on twitter from last week with the debacle about Sweet Billy (Adam Orth) about a difference between a MMO and a Singleplayer game. This guy i mean,he is such a tool and not very smart to say the least. Because well he knows everything and other people don't. But blocking people does help right? I keep laughing on how he reacts and tries to turn it around.
I am always right, I can never be wrong. Just letting you know...
In politics if they float an idea that turns out to garner a huge backlash, they usually come out to deny that they are considering the idea pretty quickly.
Phonomezer
Banned
POOR, BRAVE JOURNALISTS.
DirtyManos
Member
Because the new products they've shown since the 360 have been so successful. Just because they know how to put together a product and put it on shelves doesn't mean they know more about what good for consumers or what they want.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
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Four_Chamber
Member
The gaming press is frustrated. Shocking! I'm sure they want more to write about, but tough. For how well esteemed gaming "journalists" are here, I'm shocked how much interest there is in their opinions.
Frankly, I'm too fixated on current gen stuff to pay that much attention to next-gen.
Frankly, I'm too fixated on current gen stuff to pay that much attention to next-gen.
Tripp Daily
Member
Out of context and completely untrue
Yes Consumers, quick, bend to the evil corporations/MS will. They're all savvy business folk running international corporations and they know whats's good for us/me.
Just pointing out the double-standard.
Four_Chamber
Member
Absolutely right...but the internet needs something to talk about right now. Three months? The attention-span of the internet is minutes so we'll continue to see "articles" until Microsoft unveils.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
WrenchNinja
Member
Its absolutely true. There was a lengthy post where a user laid our whats wrong with an internet required box, and he just dismissed it because it was part of GAF.
shinra-bansho
Member
Yes, but they were among the very last posted story. Despite them clearly being aware, considering Gies was online tweeting like an idiot about it.
plagiarize
Banned
what good does it do Microsoft to let a poisonous untrue rumor continue to fester when they could squash it with a single sentence that wouldn't give anything away about their new system?
and how late do you think they can leave decisions like this? the console will likely be launching in six months... and will likely announce it's always online requirement (or lack of one) in less than two. contracts have to be drawn up. backbones need to be programmed.
it's one things to play your cards close to you chest... it's another thing not to deny some poisonous bullshit if indeed it is bullshit. if the rumors were saying 'new xbox microwaves babies' would people be arguing it was a good idea for Microsoft not to come right out and confirm that, no, in fact, it doesn't microwave babies. what business advantage do they gain from this?
I can't say I agree with this point of view at all. I love knowing about things before they're released and without those journalists that would never happen. Would make the world a slightly shittier place without them.
SneakyStephan
Banned
I think I love you, this is all happening so fast.
Hold on. Unless I'm mistaken, the 360 is leading the sales charts every month. What is the most talked about company and system right now? PS4? No. Wii U? Not anymore. MS. There is no such thing as bad publicity. Everyone, EXCEPT MICROSOFT, is talking about Durango. Sony and Nintendo are kicking themselves right now because MS is going to own E3. Sony already blew their wad with their early announcement and Nintendo is fucking clueless about marketing in the US and we already know what they will show (have we seen one commercial for the Wii U since XMAS?).
RustyNails
Member
He got banned. Just so you know, Prine is one of the most level headed posters in OT, and OT will miss his careful arguments and nice posts. I have no clue what Gaming side does to you guys. Why go out like this? Its like Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde.
I'm sure he will be back. Console wars sometimes gets the worse of people. Oh, and broken EA games too. Occasionally, anything Nintendo as well. And we have to take a daily shit on the PS Vita. Anything else I'm missing lol?
GillianSeed79
Member
This is completely anecdotal, but I had a recent conversation with one of my casual gaming buddies, who, I suggest, might be more representative of the average joe/bro gamer consumer. Basically, the conversation began while we were playing online and I said that my 360 sounds like it's going to explode now whenever I use it, it's so loud.
He said something along the lines of, don't worry the new Xbox will be out in a few months. (This is despite the fact it hasn't been announced). "I think they said November," he says.
I tell him, I don't know, the PS4 is sounding pretty awesome and I go into all the rumors and stuff about the new Xbox being always online, what that would mean, the beast specs the PS4 has, etc.
He responds by saying something along the lines of, yeah, but, all I can think about when I hear about the next Playstation is those updates. Then he goes into how he never uses his PS3 because of the constant updates and slow download speeds.
I kind of try to explain the instant download thing, but he just shrugs it off.
Granted, we are older than the 18-24 demographic, but it was plainly obvious to me that this guy was already dead set on buying whatever MS announces and has completely dismissed the PS4 based on his experience with the PS3.
Granted, this guy isn't on message boards and doesn't follow game news too closely, but he is the gamer that buys only a handful of games every year, if that, and the new CoD every year.
I think some of us might be making a mistake to think that the average, casual game consumer is as well informed as we are on the internet. Of course, the core will be what sells these new systems out of the gate, but the wider market, I would argue, isn't paying attention at all to both the PS4 and the next Xbox at this point.
He said something along the lines of, don't worry the new Xbox will be out in a few months. (This is despite the fact it hasn't been announced). "I think they said November," he says.
I tell him, I don't know, the PS4 is sounding pretty awesome and I go into all the rumors and stuff about the new Xbox being always online, what that would mean, the beast specs the PS4 has, etc.
He responds by saying something along the lines of, yeah, but, all I can think about when I hear about the next Playstation is those updates. Then he goes into how he never uses his PS3 because of the constant updates and slow download speeds.
I kind of try to explain the instant download thing, but he just shrugs it off.
Granted, we are older than the 18-24 demographic, but it was plainly obvious to me that this guy was already dead set on buying whatever MS announces and has completely dismissed the PS4 based on his experience with the PS3.
Granted, this guy isn't on message boards and doesn't follow game news too closely, but he is the gamer that buys only a handful of games every year, if that, and the new CoD every year.
I think some of us might be making a mistake to think that the average, casual game consumer is as well informed as we are on the internet. Of course, the core will be what sells these new systems out of the gate, but the wider market, I would argue, isn't paying attention at all to both the PS4 and the next Xbox at this point.
My Little Pony always mows down accounts when it's posted in the OT outside of the MLP thread, hah.
Voice recognition fail or are you typing with your elbows?
writing quick on my note 2 while at work
This. All this "wah, every day they don't release new info they have to try harder to sell it to me" is a load of shit. People swarm to new Apple devices, despite not knowing what they look like or what exactly is new about them.
Besides, MS are clearly happy to let this rumour circulate about always online. It's getting to a boiling point and everyone will wonder why the hell they worried about it when MS announce that there's no way their console will have it.
That's the theory, anyway. Allow everyone to focus on the one negative thing that's supposedly rumoured (and can in no way be true... far too many people don't have internet for them to completely shut out a segment of the game-buying community) and then announce everything at once, rather than have this trickle of information winding up in a launch where everyone goes "Pfft, 'sif we didn't know about half this shit already".
Before all the gaming sites really started, gaming magazines were amazing. Getting info dumps once a month from multiple outlets was damn exciting. Now everything is dragged out and we get articles like this.
It depends on how its handled.
I and many others already own multiple always on platforms.
Netflix / hulu are two I use all the time. My android device is also an always on device.
If its just a disc check at the start it hardly maters to me. My 360 has been plugged in since I got it and so was my ps3 while I had one.
Raven77
Member
Seriously? Rush it? They have no doubt been working on this for at least a few years. They won't be "rushing" anything.
I also like how you think rushing it would give us a "bad first impression"...I guess you've managed to dodge the 30 pieces of highly highly negative information currently floating around about this console.
MS's silence regarding all of this is the single most damaging thing they could possibly do. The proper response would be to at LEAST release a statement about the features and put some great Public Relations / Marketing spin on it to make the sheep like masses think that if it is always online it is for our own good and will lead to "amazing new experiences". They could do this without even confirming the console exists, simply start the statement with "If we were to implement these features into a console..."
R3TRODYCE
Member
30 rumors, why yes my good Sir I've been dodging those and the silence won't matter after it's announced.
Exactly.
It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation due to people (in this case these game journalists) being impatient.