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Forza Motorsport launches to mixed reviews on Steam
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demigod
Member
Fixed.
JTCx
Member
"Have they even played it? The game gets good after 100 hours!"
Horseganador
Member
Mixed reviews...that's a pretty mild term for the sub-50 disaster that Forza has on PC.
Thirty7ven
Banned
The whole “the physics are good” is funny. If it didn’t had that it would be doa.
clarky
Gold Member
Eh?
Fredrik
Member
And some of the best loading screens and loading music can be found on C64 cassette tape games a decade earlier.
Play testing in general is just extremely lacking nowdays. It’s pretty much normalized to beta test among customers. Imagine if someone would try releasing a game today on cartridge on an offline platform
clarky
Gold Member
Technically it released a week ago. The day a game becomes available to purchase is the release day regardless of how these pubs sell it
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Negotiator101
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Dead on arrival
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Futaleufu
Member
To be fair, that has to be by far the hardest part of making the game, if they nailed that then in the long run the game can be saved,
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Maybe buying a couple more publishers and their additional tech and experience might help them.
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Thirty7ven
Banned
If it were the first or second game in the series I would understand, but it’s Forza 7. Did I miss something and the physics were no good in the previous installments even though people were saying they were good?
Killer8
Member
Just goes to show that you can have as many "____ vs Forza" threads, do as many deep dive tech analysis, and post as many gifs as you want to prove the supposed superiority of the visuals, but at the end of the day if they can't stand up to the wider public's opinion then it's all for nothing.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
8*.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
GamePass optimised
. This is starting to look like a pattern…
Crayon
Member
All those bloody Sony ponies eh?
This has been coming, especially for FM specifically. The following was my experience when I participated in some of their early playtests previously:
People called for me to get banned because I was giving them feedback that would have improved the game.
And better yet still, it's still not stopping even though the cat is out of the bag, people are still throwing themselves around to defend the bullshit that Turn 10 have been peddling in the run up to this release, people are still defending what is by and large a poor product.
Ultimately these "fans" fail to realise they are their own worst enemies.
Seriously. MS needs to start listening to the "haters" a little more. The feedback loop they've created with fans does not neccessarly make for actual useful feedback.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
My UWP GP version just crashing with no apparent reason so I don't need Steam to have an opinion. Considering MSFS PC GP launch, it's a familiar cluster-ef.
That being said, it's wild how unfinished even the payed version on Steam is.
That being said, it's wild how unfinished even the payed version on Steam is.
Futaleufu
Member
You missed the "built from the ground up" part.
Sushi_Combo
Member
It's not even being a hater. Just some people who have a spine at giving constructive feedback.
clarky
Gold Member
I know what it means i just didn't get your comment. Doesn't matter.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Expected.
No way they were can gimp the PC version and expect PC gamers to take it lying down.
No way they were can gimp the PC version and expect PC gamers to take it lying down.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Nailed the driving and everything else needs work. The score they deserve until its up to scratch.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
High-quality wheels for these games are pretty expensive, for sure. I'd like to invest in one some day, but only if I'm super-serious about sim racing.
No it's not. I'd rather play Outrun 2 or Burnout 3: Takedown over Forza Horizon 5 any day.
For real tho, can we just stop trying to say a Forza game is "the absolute bestest racer ever"? Why do only Forza people seem to do this? If you love the games, fine. But gotta stop putting them up like they're the best thing in the genre ever when that can be strongly disputed objectively and subjectively.
And some of the best loading screens and loading music can be found on C64 cassette tape games a decade earlier.
Play testing in general is just extremely lacking nowdays. It’s pretty much normalized to beta test among customers. Imagine if someone would try releasing a game today on cartridge on an offline platform
Not too familiar with C64 games, but I will take your word for it. I think a lot of publishers have dumped huge portions of their QA staff over the years. IIRC Microsoft want to use AI to do bug testing in the future.
But AI won't be able to tell them if a game mechanic or system is actually fun for a human to play with. You need actual people testing the game for that, preferably professionals who have a good taste for quality games. But that costs money and somehow Microsoft are too cheap to pay for it.
Maybe buying a couple more publishers and their additional tech and experience might help them.
If anything buying another pub or two will just cause the entirety of Xbox to collapse because of too much stuff to manage. They're already clearly struggling with what they have; ABK is going to increase the pressure by magnitudes.
It's weird because on one hand, people high up at Xbox have insulated themselves into an echo chamber. On the other hand, we know Phil Spencer does actually read criticism because he referenced negative commentary towards the brand in that X-Cast interview.
However, he is so egotistical (IMO) I don't think he cares to actually do anything with that criticism.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Yeah, we're already seeing the effects of that.
Windom Earle
Member
Congratulations you just got gamepass'd
blue velvet
Member
You can't fake review on steam. Nobody would spend 70 dollars just to review bomb the game. This ain't metacritic, steam reviews are far more reliable because people genuinely played it, and it shows the actual hours played on their reviews.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
remember that all these PC sims are lacking in a campaign that even comes close to the likes of Forza Motorsport 7 and Gran Turismo 5 let alone the classics such as FM4 and GT4. I'd be spending 300-400 dollars on a wheel, pedals and shifter for what? online racing and more realistic physics? With basically no goal or game to work for besides just racing in lobbies?
Assetto 2 in 2024 better step up the campaign efforts. And Controller support too.
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freefornow
Gold Member
I have always been clear on Gaf that i lean heavily team green (for a whole range of reasons).
Have owned and played every Forza (and Horizon) that have been released, but there is definitely something off with some of the lighting in certain environments. And I'm not comparing it to GT7. This is my lived comparison with other Forza games. I cant quite put my finger on it, but some of the full daylight/sunny lighting just looks off to me.
(playing Performance RT-havent tried others yet)
The driving physics though get a huge chefs kiss from me.
Skifi28
Member
Brings memories of Forza 7 constantly crashing on PC at release, good times, best money I've ever thrown away.
Uhm, yes? Why the heck you even need a wheel to race against braindead AI lol?
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
its not that I need a wheel for AI racing, it's needed to get your foot in the door as controller support for many of these PC sims is abysmal. Forza and Gran Turismo do controller right as 99% of the userbase uses controller, but on PC where everything is hyper enthusiast these games are made for wheels and no other configuration. It's annoying.
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xVodevil
Member
Well if this is what it takes to have this game on steam... whatever
I would have loved to play FM 7 on steam to this day, but nah it is non existent. And my hate for trash MS store is around the same level as Epic...
So yeah whatever, game is not nearly as horrible as some other titles were already just this year. It's mostly okay for now and it'll definitely get better
I would have loved to play FM 7 on steam to this day, but nah it is non existent. And my hate for trash MS store is around the same level as Epic...
So yeah whatever, game is not nearly as horrible as some other titles were already just this year. It's mostly okay for now and it'll definitely get better
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Just need a bigger video card
not to mention we are still waiting for standard day1 features for starfield, which they promised a month ago.
they are in a roll for sure.
JTCx
Member
I'm waiting for the "tools" narrative to make a comeback.
Dream-Knife
Banned
Western AAA
Rhazer Fusion
Member
What are the chances that this to my knowledge is the worst received Forza game yet that just happened to go GAAS?
Larxia
Member
The worse to me is that on top of the game being 70$, this is the first thing you will see in the store page description :
I know people are used to this, that it's the new norm, but I will never find it normal nor get used to it.
You buy an overpriced game already, and they clearly tell you that you're playing the "cheap" version. They make it feel like you're playing some free to play version or something and you have to pay 100$+ to get the real game.
Basically mocking you for getting the "standard" version.
It's absurd.
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Fredrik
Member
How expensive would it actually be to let the fan I quoted play the game during dev?
Even I would’ve done better than the play tester group they used now. Why not just let your level progression sit on the driver/player instead of the individual car? The more you drive and upgrade no matter which car the more you level up.
As said in the OT, right now it’s as if you take Skyrim and upgrade your sword skills, then when you change to another sword you have to start from level 1 again. It makes no sense.
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