Never said anything like that, nor do I think that most gamers care about Ultra on everything.In all games at Ultra settings? No it can't.
Pc player care about high/ultra settings.Never said anything like that, nor do I think that most gamers care about Ultra on everything.
Some ppl are not techsavy, they are even ok with last gen graphics, so ofc will be ok with series s lvl of graphics too, same like on pc u still get lots of ppl using gtx 1060, thats roughly series S lvl of power, or ps4pro(roughly)So do you guys see why there is a market for the Series S?
I'm pretty sure performance mode isn't going anywhere
You do realize most AAA games cant reach 4k60 on PC either? Add ray tracing effects and no game runs 4k60 at all. Going to need a 4090 and it isnt out yetI am a Laymen when it comes to complicated pc architecture. With that said, I was hoping once console games started being designed exclusively for the ps5 of XSX we would see games become more standard 4k/60. Before launch I was hearing big talk about Zen architecture and 10-14 teraflops of processing. Almost 2 years in and very very few games offer 4k/60fps. It was all the talk before the consoles launch now it's almost always a sacrifice to reach 60fps. Are these console just not powerful enough to offer the option? Just for reference can a 10 teraflop pc offer 60fp?
A 3080 will be plenty fine. It has way more horsepower than the consoles and developers will want to ensure that console players get a decent experience, as that’s where the money is.Pc player care about high/ultra settings.
To play with console settings, besides cp2077 it probably can do 4k 60 fps on everything. But we are talking about last gen and cross gen titles.
Next year we gonna have real next gen titles. A 3080 will not be enough.
Which GPU do you have?I don't know but dynamic 4k 60fps looks ACE on my TV
8k is pretty much dead from a consumer level, much better to spend the extra effort on panel qualityOnce we get to PS6/XSX2 there should be no good reason not to do this. Unless they then start chasing 8K, which would be the dumbest shit ever. We don't need that until everyone has 100" TVs.
8k is pretty much dead from a consumer level, much better to spend the extra effort on panel quality
Appeals to casuals thinking big number is better... By the time there's any regular 8k content these tvs will be ancient lolSamsung seems to be pushing it pretty hard. Sony also has one. I haven't heard a single good argument as to WHY anyone should get one, but that's irrelevant of course.
Appeals to casuals thinking big number is better... By the time there's any regular 8k content these tvs will be ancient lol
You could theoretically play some of those games at 120fps with a pro modelAre they though?
We haven't even seen what these current gen machines can do. The push for 60 fps is hurting graphical fidelity more than anything. Releasing a "pro version" to play the games currently out would be the most useless half measure ever.
The games settings and stats are completely unchanged between several tiers of systems. This is like a 3090 running a game the exact same as a 3060How many games have you shipped?
The ratchet devs said they couldn’t maintain a 120FPS mode (likely 1080p) because in their words they ran into cpu deciding factors. I don’t feel the cpus are enough of a jump especially for 60fps minimum and i highly suspect in games like death stranding the cpu in the consoles is slightly holding back the gpuWhere did you heard that? Most of developers are quite happy about the CPU on consoles this generation
Those lost frames are the difference between a locked 60 and inconsistent 60fps mode though. In death stranding for example at 4k you can get as much as 12 extra frames in some instances witj better cpus (and that’s obviously significant for something targetting 60) i also bet the lack of zen 3 is why most games don’t have 1080p 120fps modes (cause I know the gpu wouldn’t he holding it back in that instance)
Ohhh you are one of those guys.?
Got feeling you wont be here long.
You do know Zen3 and the PS5 launched the same month?
Zen3 SOCs only launched mid/late 2021
Did you expect Sony to delay the PS5 to wait for Zen3.........only for people to complain they should have waited for Zen4?
Beyond the OGXbox these consoles at launch were the closest to mid/high tier PC parts weve seen in forever.
The 3600X was the best bang for buck CPU in 2019.....these console effectively have cut versions of the 3700X.
At 4K the 3600X does above 90% the work of Zen3 5600X.......soooooo
I could live with that.1440p/60fps high-ultra settings > 4K/60fps low-medium settings
That's what we have nowI could live with that.
Death Stranding is already 60fps on PS5?Those lost frames are the difference between a locked 60 and inconsistent 60fps mode though. In death stranding for example at 4k you can get as much as 12 extra frames in some instances witj better cpus (and that’s obviously significant for something targetting 60) i also bet the lack of zen 3 is why most games don’t have 1080p 120fps modes (cause I know the gpu wouldn’t he holding it back in that instance)
1440p/60fps high-ultra settings > 4K/60fps low-medium settings
Not sure what's funny billy. It's not a power thing we keep going higher and higher in power but we had more 60 fps games in the PS2 era. When given more power devs decide to do other things with it because double the graphical power at 1440p upscaled 30fps is always going to be a viable playable option for devs vs 4k 60fps with less than half that.remember when we got consoles that were meant to be 4K? lol the PS4 Pro/XB1X were a joke for 4K. now PS5/XSX is struggling with it and some people thought they were going to be playing at 8K on their PS5 lol.
PS5/XSX should focus on 1080/1440p 30-60fps. just upscale to 4K. in some cases AI upscaling is better than native. there's no point wasting resources trying to render native 4K when you can just run an AI to do it.
Add ray tracing effects and no game runs 4k60 at all
If wasn't for those damn kids in the mystery van over at idsoftware you may have managed to get away with that comment but doom eternal exists.
My 3080 can do 4K 60+ in most games and even 120+ in some games, not sure what you are talking about here.Man even a 3080 is not a capable of that standard... it has almost 2 times the power of these consoles.
They will be good 1440p machines.
Theses first 2 years were major cross gen games, remasters and oldgen updates.
Next year next gen only games will come and then we wil have all 4k low/mid settings 30 fps games.
Don't foolish yourself, these consoles are weak and this year we will have gpus with 4-5x times their power.
I couldn't say it better. What's the fooking point of native 4K/60 if current Next Gen hardware is not capable of it without sacrificing much more important things like a better physics engine, collision system, geometry, textures, graphics effects, draw distance, lighting, etc etc. Jesus, people, we are not playing on a RTX 4090, please stop with this native 4K/60, it really doesn't make any sense on a PS5/XSX, unless it's a remaster of an old game...What's wrong with dynamic resolution? FSR2.0? We don't need native 4K. 60fps should be the priority.
Anyway, I still find it amusing that some here think that Pro consoles are on their way.