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Microsoft: Call of Duty and other popular AB games will continue to be released on PlayStation and Nintendo platforms beyond current agreements
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Portugeezer
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If you want to be cynical (and it's MS, so yeah of course), you could point out that they don't determine how many future titles will be released. For example if the Sony marketing or whatever deal ends on 2023, they will release COD 2024 (the so-called "future"), then no more future titles.This blog shows Microsoft isn't willing to take any chances with the activision deal being blocked. It's that important. And why wouldn't it be? It's a game changer for their entire videogame forturnes, and one of the biggest acquisitions in their history, if not the biggest?? Microsoft doesn't want part of it, some of it, they don't want to risk any divestitures or carve outs. They want the entire thing, and if making existing popular games from Activision Blizzard available everywhere where they already exist means getting this deal approved, that's what you do.
These are the most important parts of the blog basically. Notice what it does not commit? To release all Activision Blizzard games on Playstation. It specifically says "continue to make" and uses language such as "And we have committed to Sony that we will also make them"
Translation: Microsoft has a definition of *them* and it's Call of Duty and other popular Activision Blizzard. Crash, COD, Diablo, Overwatch, Tony Hawk, they all stay on PS going forward. But You can't "continue to make" games available that were never available on Playstation in the first place. Meaning exclusives are happening, they just won't be from the games everybody already loves from Activision today. I'm totally okay with that.
Wouldn't be lying.
Darlingcognito
Member
Still a win for players that prefer the Xbox eco system.
Day one on Gamepass with all the perks, early betas v $100 day one on other consoles.
Day one on Gamepass with all the perks, early betas v $100 day one on other consoles.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
For being right?
dcmk7
Banned
What's with the constant crying about all things PlayStation? They seem to live rent free in your head.
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SSfox
Member
You're so wrong, it's 200$ in the other consoles.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
gotta smooth out those FTC kinks first.
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demigod
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GAF accounts don’t mean shit when folks can just make new ones. Game bet?
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Who told that you are right? You got a statement that does not specifically state that they will release all future Call of Duty games on Playstation. They literally said that they will follow the contracts and after contracts expire they will keep [them] available.
Though I guess you believed in generations too
If Bethesda deal did not teach people anything, they I have nothing to say. This year is gonna be long.
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Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
GAF is smelling a lot like twitter lately.
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Fair, maybe I'm thinking too small.
Goalus
Member
They don't need to make any money "back" because they don't lose any money if the deal is approved. They only lose cash, but in exchange they receive an asset that is worth the amount of cash they spent. On their balance sheet this amounts to +-0.
EruditeHobo
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Darlingcognito
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Ass of Can Whooping
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Who told that you are right? You got a statement that does not specifically state that they will release all future Call of Duty games on Playstation. They literally said that they will follow the contracts and after contracts expire they will keep [them] available.
Though I guess you believed in generations too
They talked about keeping and supporting existing games with the Bethesda/Zenimaxi acquisition too. Mind pointing out where they talked about future releases there like they've done here?
You're living in fantasy land. It's clear as day what they're saying here.
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Goalus
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I don't think they are trying to smooth anything out here. Microsoft just happens to be a genuinely good company, a good samaritan in a pool of evil competitors if you will.
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3liteDragon
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BlitzerRadic
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Regulators would have a field day if MS tried to pull that.
Swift_Star
Banned
You do know these people are hoping and rooting MS takes games away from everyone, right? I don't even know why we bother.
DJ12
Member
Got to laugh at those saying Phil was playing 4d chess with Jimbo, only for Jimbo to force this embarrassing situation upon all the xbox fans that cannot see the woods from the trees. (Obviously, some knew this was happening, not all are idiots)
Guess Jimbos 8D chess game with Bungie staying multiplatform instantly pissed on Phil's parade of not having the "intent" to remove games from PlayStation.
Mark my words, won't be long before Halo is on PlayStation and Uncharted is on xbox. The lines they are a blurrin'.
Probably see a divergence soon, xbox becoming more PC like (keyboard, mouse, ability to run office) and considerably more expensive (but still cheaper than an alternative speced PC) and PlayStation staying as the $450 mass market machine.
Guess Jimbos 8D chess game with Bungie staying multiplatform instantly pissed on Phil's parade of not having the "intent" to remove games from PlayStation.
Mark my words, won't be long before Halo is on PlayStation and Uncharted is on xbox. The lines they are a blurrin'.
Probably see a divergence soon, xbox becoming more PC like (keyboard, mouse, ability to run office) and considerably more expensive (but still cheaper than an alternative speced PC) and PlayStation staying as the $450 mass market machine.
BusierDonkey
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Hey look I found a video from the future after the acquisition passes and all future Actiblizz games are released exclusively on Gamepass supporting platforms only.
I love it when laywers dictate what words people use, especially when people read it the way they intended.
"we will also make them available on Playstation beyond the existing agreement"
So the games that they have released under contract will be released, but they'll also continue to support those titles after the contract is done. I don't see where it says they will make new games available on the Playstation after the initial contractually obligated releases.
Here's another fun take:
What exactly does "make them available" mean here? I mean, Xcloud is available to work on Playstation as is Gamepass aren't they? Microsoft reps have publicly stated they'd love to see Gamepass on the Playstation. Sony doesn't have either on the platform but It's certainly available for Sony to put on the console though which means the Activision and Blizzard games are also available for Sony to put on the platform.
yazenov
Member
Surprise surprise. Cutting off the platform where the majority of your audience are was such a dumb move that so many Xbox fanboys were cheering for.
MS wants money and return of investment, like all other businesses want. As long as Playstation dominated sales wise, the games will keep on coming.
MS wants money and return of investment, like all other businesses want. As long as Playstation dominated sales wise, the games will keep on coming.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Frankly, it makes no sense whatsoever. WTF is the point of making these massive purchases when your console was always getting these games anyway? There are far easier ways to make more money and you dont have to spend billions. Even the most expensive games like TLOU2 cost $100 million to make and market. For $3.6 billion, they couldve made 36 of those games.
It's a stupid escalation. They are both scared of losing content so they both ended up spending billions only to go multiplatform. It started with Zenimax. An absolutely needless purchase and hopefully it ends with Bungie, another unnecessary purchase. But it's possible that Phil knows something behind that scenes that we dont. Either hes gearing up to purchase another big publisher or he knows Sony is about to acquire one of their own.
You cant blame forum posters for getting things wrong when execs and big companies are pulling nonsensical moves. It's hard to make sense of these things. This benefits no one.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Hey look I found a video from the future after the acquisition passes and all future Actiblizz games are released exclusively on Gamepass supporting platforms only.
I love it when laywers dictate what words people use, especially when people read it the way they intended.
"we will also make them available on Playstation beyond the existing agreement"
So the games that they have released under contract will be released, but they'll also continue to support those titles after the contract is done. I don't see where it says they will make new games available on the Playstation after the initial contractually obligated releases.
Here's another fun take:
What exactly does "make them available" mean here? I mean, Xcloud is available to work on Playstation as is Gamepass aren't they? Microsoft reps have publicly stated they'd love to see Gamepass on the Playstation. Sony doesn't have either on the platform but It's certainly available for Sony to put on the console though which means the Activision and Blizzard games are also available for Sony to put on the platform.
Look at what they're addressing
They are very clearly telling regulators this won't be a concern
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Topher
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You've got Phil Spencer saying Call of Duty will be staying on PlayStation. You've got Microsoft President Brad Smith saying Call of Duty will be staying on PlayStation. You've got both of those guys publicly stating that they told Sony that Call of Duty will be staying on PlayStation.
Nah....I'm going to believe some folks on Twitter and GAF who are desperately wanting to see Call of Duty removed from PlayStation.
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Punished Miku
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Sosokrates
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Because it helps help gamepass.
The Irishman is a netflix movie which also had a cinema + blu ray/dvdrelease, but it still helped Netflix because most people dont want to spend £12 on a movie ticket when they can watch the movie at home on there Netflix sub.
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Aguero9320
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I definitely support this, one step towards my dream of not being forced to buy hardware I don’t want, and the end of ‘exclusives’ tied to consoles.
But Sony will have to play ball for it to continue. They must feel they can convince Sony to be more open with their content, and end the ‘console launch exclusive’ bs. Or perhaps have been told that they will be. To be fair, recent noises coming out of Sony have suggested as much.
We might not be far from seeing things like Spider-Man on Xbox? Both crazy and the sanest thing ever, at the same time.
But Sony will have to play ball for it to continue. They must feel they can convince Sony to be more open with their content, and end the ‘console launch exclusive’ bs. Or perhaps have been told that they will be. To be fair, recent noises coming out of Sony have suggested as much.
We might not be far from seeing things like Spider-Man on Xbox? Both crazy and the sanest thing ever, at the same time.
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Sosokrates
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You've got Phil Spencer saying Call of Duty will be staying on PlayStation. You've got Microsoft President saying Call of Duty will be staying on PlayStation. You've got both of those guys publicly stating that they told Sony that Call of Duty will be staying on PlayStation.
Nah....I'm going to believe some folks on Twitter and GAF who are desperately wanting to see Call of Duty removed from PlayStation.
Its not even that strange, considering how they handled Minecraft.
Thirty7ven
Banned
God, these fanboys like Kobrille are absolutely pathetic clowns going around acting like they own Xbox. Choke on a potato will ya.
wrong, has nothing to do with any of that, and thats just some fanboy drivel.
there is legislation going on to open up app stores to third party payment processors. this is gonna come to consoles later in the future, you can bank on it.
goodbye sweet 3rd party %30 cut.
so now the name of the game is, get your own content or else you're fucked.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Only time will tell who of us is right. There is no point in these debates.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
They've already told regulators their plan. There's no waiting anymore. This is it. Unless you're deluded enough to think they're going to 180 their commitments to regulators
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PhaseJump
Banned
Playstation is an install base willing to pay full price for games. Xbox is willing to give games to their subscribers and also sell it to them at a discount.
Greed is good and makes more sense than console wars that vicariously consume the identity of childish stupid assholes.
Anybody drawing lines in the dirt to play a round of "Us vs Them" between the major console brands is retarded. Retarded and also worthy of admiration, for they will be the butt of many jokes and provide salty entertainment, once Microsoft buys another studio or publisher and instigates a zeitgeist of doomsday paranoia.
It's Wednesday, people.
Greed is good and makes more sense than console wars that vicariously consume the identity of childish stupid assholes.
Anybody drawing lines in the dirt to play a round of "Us vs Them" between the major console brands is retarded. Retarded and also worthy of admiration, for they will be the butt of many jokes and provide salty entertainment, once Microsoft buys another studio or publisher and instigates a zeitgeist of doomsday paranoia.
It's Wednesday, people.
Banjo64
cumsessed
I won’t be satisfied until they don’t even let me play these games on my Xbox.
I will only be happy when they play the master copy (and only copy) of TES 6 and CoD 17 on a 65 inch OLED TV in a vault made from 15 inch thick impenetrable reinforced steel. People can queue up and pay £70 to touch the outside of the safe.
No one should play this CoD goodness.
I think the real Clowns are the people who think that the price of GamePass will not increase.
Also, fanboy fantasy will be to dry out the competition by not giving games... tell a CEO that we are dropping Billions of $$$ of revenue and you will be the first one fired...
Also, fanboy fantasy will be to dry out the competition by not giving games... tell a CEO that we are dropping Billions of $$$ of revenue and you will be the first one fired...
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DJ12
Member
I think you can. It's absolutely obvious what was happening.
Choosing to ignore it or coming up with some mental gymnastics for to cinvince themselves Microsoft is actually full of idiots does not absolve anyone of fault.
MS brought Activision for CoD and Candy Crush, everything else is garbage and makes little money. WoW has been in decline for years.
Got to be a clever MF if you honestly thought they'd throw CoD's biggest audience out the window first chance they get.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Just a little FYI, the "RELEASE" part in the topic title is from Nibel's tweet.
Nowhere in the actual PR does it say "RELEASE" games, just "Continue to make available".
I think a simple change of word that Nibel editorialized changed the entire context of the article and unfortunately it looks like most of the thread has ran with it.
squarealex
Member
Go read Forbes and stop crying
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Except they did not make any commitment in the post. Like literally read the post really as the paragraph can literally means a lot of things there. I suggest to go through various lawyer documents - the word mastery their is crazy. The way they can twist the words is just mindblowing (especially recent one regarding ATVI lawsuits)
Literally the whole paragraph is about the games we release during contractual obligations won't be pulled off the platform later and we will continue to support those games.
Just like I said before, we went through that last year but I guess the lesson has not been learnt lol. Anyway, believe in whatever you want but history tells us otherwise.
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Sosokrates
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Whatever happens to the price of gamepass will ve ultimately dictated by the market.
If they price it to high, people will simple not sub.
For me personally I dont think it should go any higher then 50% more then UK hourly minimum wage.