sircaw
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this particular rumor does go back a long time, i recall this exact one from many many months again.
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this particular rumor does go back a long time, i recall this exact one from many many months again.
Killer Sakoman
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I am questioning Microsoft.
I am not convinced that RDNA 2 is only 25% more efficient than Polaris. We're talking 2 generations and moving from 14 to 7 nm.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Someone ask Foxy since he can talk his way around an NDA or that Italian dude who has PS5 release date even before Sony themselves.
TJC
Member
Foxy is on the crossfire podcast in 20mins, Its strange as someone from push square over on era are calling BS on him being at event. Foxy claimed media were at event and they are a PlayStation focused outlet, seems strange that they wouldn't be invited.
MasterCornholio
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Yes we haven't seen the PS5s APU yet. Some things are not shown until well after the reveal.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
That didn't answer my question.
MasterCornholio
Member
Well the teardown hasn't happened yet and the console was shown a while ago. So there's still plenty of mystery behind the system.
TJC
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For some reason I feel like Sony are waiting for AMD to reveal RDNA 2 before they talk about features on the APU, but then again MS are talking about it a little so AMD are obviously not stopping Sony, strange.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I didn't ask a thing about PS5.
Aceofspades
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Richard still thinks PS5 is RDNA1
Richard also insisted that XB1 was more powerful than PS4 in 2013. He was on full warrior mode then, I hope he outgrown that now that he is in his late 50s.
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hemo memo
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And only NOW people realize that? The dude was never right. That palm readers bullshit tactic and vague tweets. He has been doing this to no end and he was wrong on pretty much every time and what he “predicted” is what he actually read from here and from reddit. If people still believe him after that NDA tweet then I don’t know what to say.
Insane Metal
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Sony's machinery is starting full steam mode. Finally.
TJC
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He has a few game Devs who follow him though, not saying he's not lying but he could know certain small thing's. Time will tell now anyway as no way to get out of this corner he's put himself in lol.
MasterCornholio
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To answer your question if AMD has hardware features under NDA Sony and Microsoft can't disclose them. That is why we don't know everything yet.
Like for example we dont exactly know what features an RDNA2 GPU has. We also don't know all the details on the customizations of the GPUs in the consoles.
Microsoft is only talking about what AMD let's them talk about. I'm pretty sure AMD told Microsoft what information they can release. I'm no expert on NDAs but I'm pretty sure there are ways to talk about things if you have the permission to.
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jose4gg
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I think we are going to learn more about PS5 after Nvidea releases their new lineup. After that AMD will define their strategy with RDN2 and will start to release more and more information about it, that's when PS5 and XBOX will have full freedom to talk about their system...
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Dude... lol..
I asked if, in the past, there has ever been a big "Secret" piece of hardware we didn't know about until right before launch.... nothing you are saying is answering that lol
jose4gg
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I don't think so, but as I said, the fact that AMD hasn't started to release their lineup can be stopping Sony and MS to talk about specific things...
MasterCornholio
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I don't know about in the past but right now there's a ton of unanswered questions about the hardware. Like take ray tracing in the Ps5 for example. We don't have a clear explanation on how the hardware works for that.
It seems that way since we have information missing. Like what I said about hardware based Ray tracing. We know the PS5 has it but how is it done?
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J_Gamer.exe
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Yeah animals are getting smarter now...
All this flight sim talk and we forget we already seen photorealistic graphics back on PS1...
Insane Metal
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OT but Paige is a babe. Damn.
Lethal01
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I hate this Meme so much.
Anytime there is a chance a console is doing something cool it has to have 20 people getting mad that people could be excited and calling it a secret sauce.
TJC
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Maybe you've hit the nail on the head, to laugh lol.
MasterCornholio
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I think of secret sauce more like exclusive customizations. Both of them have it.
Lethal01
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Depends what you mean, it's common for details of the hardware not the be widely known for ages.
Never anything that doubles your framerate but something like the specifics of customizations to their methods for raytracing is the kind of thing they won't always broadcast outside of material for devs.
Moridianae
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Foxy is going onto a Podcast? That's some serious double-down, except I noticed he convienently is gonna dip out for 2 days after.
Shocking. Shocker. Shock.
Shoon..y
Shocking. Shocker. Shock.
Shoon..y
Mr Moose
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Some people are still looking for the 2nd GPU hidden in the OG Xbox One's power brick.
Gamerguy84
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Dave_at_Home
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I bet it has something to do with the geometry engine...
Wraith Phantom
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He hinted it before. Speed kills.
Who the hell bet against PS devs/ Sony engineers to find a way to make RT work? Not saying you. But people really think Sony are just any old company.Like they don't do hardware. Like they don't have expertise in image quality. If anyone was to do make RT work/standard it would be in PS in the console space. We are in for a treat sir.
I don't get these guys. It's a small percentage in the 2080 TI club. So not sure why many brag. I thought these guys were smart but they keep spending more money on cards. To play unoptimised games. And then cry about the port not working well. I wont even start on the quality of games on that side. Top down games after spending large sums on cards. Funny bunch.Funny bunch.
Too many to correct you on. Best just leave it to this, fixed frequency does not mean fixed performance, you've butchered the meaning of 'race to idle'..
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
wasnt this just inengine? thats like saying the forza footage will be what the final game will be Don't worry. Cinematic + "some gameplay shots without hud". All real-time. See Bgs post and also as said previously its obvious some is gameplay with the camera moved round like you can do...
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Three Jackdaws
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Who is saying this? I have not seen anything. Even from the biggest bullshitters out there like Tidux and Foxy Lol
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I guess I lean towards not expecting much in the way of customization or advancement when something is kept so quiet. That's sort of in general; same thing for RT on PC with AMD... I want them to compete but the silence is kind of deafening for me.
Would be rad if Sony had some custom hardware they were keeping from us but it just feels unlikely. at this point. I was thinking maybe Tempest could be involved but others shot that down IIRC.
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TJC
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Redgamingtech, imo he's way more believable. He is a PC guy and I genuinely believe he has AMD source's.
Gamerguy84
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Just a second ago I got the email from PS that the 5 is "coming soon"
Pre orders may not be far away.
That email was in response to me signing up to be notified when pre order was available. Its happening soon.
Pre orders may not be far away.
That email was in response to me signing up to be notified when pre order was available. Its happening soon.
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Moridianae
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I think we'll have another games showcase here soon. I really don't see preorders beginning until September when Microsoft goes.
Sony will follow up soon after, unless they feel their software lineup is powerful enough it won't matter if MS undercuts with the Series S. In that case, they could open sooner than that.
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Three Jackdaws
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my bad I re-read the original post I replied too, ok I kinda see what he means.
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TJC
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I just remember him talking about ALOT of custom stuff for PS5 that he's hearing, and "some" for the Xbox also. I think he talked about geometry engine being "RDNA 3" a few weeks ago. Thinking of it though didn't he say that the custom RT leak he's heard for Sony is something he dosent 100% believe as not his normal source?. Sony need to hurry up and do a bloody teardown so it's all out in the air.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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here is the summary that I guess you want to knowCould some of you two do a summary?
hemo memo
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Not coming soon. Just coming.
IbelieveInGenerations
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Sorry for not responding to everyone, but I have this gut feeling that the RT technique used on PS5 Will take the place of the SSD as the next big thing for discussion.
Notice How little Cerny talked about RT during his presentation. Some were betting because ps5 doesnt even have propper RT and Sony only have SSD speed as their marketing point. I wouldnt bet my money on that.
Wraith Phantom
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I think certain things will be locked until PS6. High chance we don't get details on a lot of things. Sony don't have to reveal anything. It's their IP ,their tech in the end. I fell like AMD are just a connect to chips. And are just support cast. Sonys tech is very,very different to stock AMD.
The hardware company & Image specialist will deliver. Im off next week & next week is going to be game ,after game ,after game. Good times ahead.
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TheGreatWhiteShark
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thats not what he said
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Three Jackdaws
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Nice try, at least try adding in the full clip.
"So far my opinion on either machine (PS5 and Series X has not changed) the Xbox Series X is very very powerful, it's monstrous honestly and in terms of of raw parallel performance it's just incredible, Sony's machine is designed for raw throughput, and I know those two approaches may sound the same, but believe me they are very different. Ultimately for the average game which doesn't push either console to its limits, which console performs the best? honestly it's going to depend on the lead development system, the game engine used and the developer talent, but if a game fully leverages the platforms, both consoles will get their positives and negatives and both the PS5 and Series X will have their own unique look."
Not related to your reply but what's funny is RGT is usually more biased towards PC and Xbox but in recent months he has never said the Series X will outperform the PS5 or if it's a better console, in fact he actually sounds much more impressed with the PS5 than the Series X.
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