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[M1chl]

So here it is, only PS3 is missing : )

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

So here it is, only PS3 is missing : )

Seriously, that’s really cool.

 

[KyoZz]

That funny moment when the Xbox will emulate more games from the PS1/PS2/PS3 era than the PS5

 

[M1chl]

It's pretty crazy, only think which bothers me is that if other companies are going to try to push MS to disable the dev mode, which would suck)

 

[UnNamed]

XBOX Series S with Retroarch installed will be very valuable in the future.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

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[Orta]

MS knew what they were doing with this box

 

[tuco11]

Is the Xbox one X capable of running PS2 also?

 

[Esppiral]

Is the Xbox one X capable of running PS2 also?

No

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Is the Xbox one X capable of running PS2 also?

No, the Jaguar core CPU is a major bottleneck there. In general even PSP, Dreamcast and GameCube games fair poorly on One X with Retroarch because of the CPU, but PS2 even moreso.

The fact PS2 emulates so flawlessly on a $299 box is pretty amazing tbh

 

[Esppiral]

"We Don't Believe in generations", well it was true at so many levels

 

[M1chl]

I also believe that this sparks development a lot, when it comes to X|S, because it's getting a ton of exposure.

 

[YCoCg]

The best thing about this is that it makes the Series S an actual interesting purchase, having a massive emulation box like box for a reasonable price is kinda mad and Microsoft should sorta lean but not officially lean into that.

 

[BlvckFox]

That is really fucking cool!

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Sony is losing to themselves.
Had they added backwards compatibility they would have instantly won.

Microsoft is making all the right decisions.

Yes MS is going to win because you can play Xenosaga now.
I wish it was true.

 

[Zog]

So the PS5 can't even run the PS2 Classics that are on PS NOW?

 

[Valentino]

Sony is losing to themselves.
Had they added backwards compatibility they would have instantly won.

Microsoft is making all the right decisions.

Eh? Why does backwards compatibility cumulate to instant win? I've seen nothing but strides and record breaking news on Sonys behalf that past few weeks ( for years tbh)

 

[kuncol02]

It's pretty crazy, only think which bothers me is that if other companies are going to try to push MS to disable the dev mode, which would suck)

No Dev mode means no UWP apps on XBox and that's something MS cannot afford.

 

[M1chl]

No Dev mode means no UWP apps on XBox and that's something MS cannot afford.

They still can do blacklist of Apps, you know....it's not exactly rocket science, for this type of apps. Like how is called, same way Anti-virus searching for potential threats...I think is heuristic? So yeah, they don't have to block whole dev mode, this would be sufficient, but I don't want to give them any ideas. Something like that is build in into their "Smart Screen" filter.

 

[Birdo]

Shame about the slowdown in SOTC and Outrun 2.

Maybe Series X can get them stable.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

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[ricardo_sousa11]

Sony is losing to themselves.
Had they added backwards compatibility they would have instantly won.

Microsoft is making all the right decisions.

lol, what?

 

[M1chl]

Shame about the slowdown in SOTC and Outrun 2.

Maybe Series X can get them stable.

This is runnig completely platform agnostic, it contains no optimalisations.

 

[Shakka43]

So the PS5 can't even run the PS2 Classics that are on PS NOW?

They work regularly like any ps4 game so I don't see why it wouldn't work via PS Now.

 

[Zog]

They work regularly like any ps4 game so I don't see why it wouldn't work via PS Now.

So the PS5 does have a PS2 emulator?

 

[01011001]

I got GameCube and PSP running reasonably well so far on Series X.

it's really something, and to think that you don't even have to mod your system is crazy tbh.

now I'm waiting eagerly to see if they can get Xbox emulation running!
that way we could just ignore the licensing limitations Microsoft has to work with to get games compatible and just play them through this

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Sony is losing to themselves.
Had they added backwards compatibility they would have instantly won.

Microsoft is making all the right decisions.

LoL, Sony can produce soap and it will sell. I mean they are basically Apple at this point - they built a cult around themselves.

 

[01011001]

So the PS5 does have a PS2 emulator?

yes as did the PS4, and theoretically both systems should easily be able to run PS2 and especially PS1 games

 

[nani17]

How long can we expect this to last before Sony or Nintendo do soemthing

 

[EverydayBeast]

I immediately thought of the original Xbox I bought that had every snes, nes, genesis game built into it. Emulation isn’t a hit it’s a HOME RUN.

 

[Zog]

yes as did the PS4, and theoretically both systems should easily be able to run PS2 and especially PS1 games

I have read that like the PS3 games on PS NOW, you have to stream PS2 games instead of downloading them like you can on the PS4.

 

[Orta]

Is it possible/likely we might get full blown OG & 360 emulation running on the SS? Retro enthusiasts are going to love this machine once word gets out, already I'm viewing it as an emulation box. Be incredible if we could get PS3 stuff on it.

 

[sainraja]

I have read that like the PS3 games on PS NOW, you have to stream PS2 games instead of downloading them like you can on the PS4.

You can download most of the available PS2 games on the PS4 and even purchase them via the PS store.

 

[Sub_Level]

The fact that there's no hardware modification required is insane.

 

[BootsLoader]

Wtf? That’s a reason to buy series s

 

[YeulEmeralda]

LoL, Sony can produce soap and it will sell. I mean they are basically Apple at this point - they built a cult around themselves.

Remember the PlayStation classic? And PS3/4 had PS2 games that you could buy.

No I think Sony did the math and decided emulation just wasn't worth it. Personally I would rather just download old ISO's for free and play them on a computer.

 

[YCoCg]

Remember the PlayStation classic?

That was their own fault! IF the only benefit of the device is AFTER flashing it then you know what it originally gives was rubbish. Seriously we could do multiple articles on the bad choices made with that.

 

[M1chl]

Is it possible/likely we might get full blown OG & 360 emulation running on the SS? Retro enthusiasts are going to love this machine once word gets out, already I'm viewing it as an emulation box. Be incredible if we could get PS3 stuff on it.

There is really no good working OG Xbox emulator. With X360, there is probably no chance outside of what MS is doing, because it's using special part of silicon.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

PCs have been emulating games on consoles for years. I'm not sure why this particular PC is seen as anything different.

 

[01011001]

Remember the PlayStation classic? And PS3/4 had PS2 games that you could buy.

No I think Sony did the math and decided emulation just wasn't worth it. Personally I would rather just download old ISO's for free and play them on a computer.

wasn't worth it does also imply that it would be a lot of work... but it wouldn't.
this is something fans do on the side for free, fans that have no insights to the actual hardware and had to reverse engineer everything and puzzle it together for themselves.

meanwhile Sony and their developers have detailed hardware and API specs for every system + actually professionals hired to do this.

so to assume it would be some sort of challenging task to get PS1 and PS2 running on PS5 is laughable.

even such an early and hacked together build of retroarch on Xbox X|S already has a very high compatibility percentage and very good performance.

on top of that they already have a working PS2 emulator on PS4 and have shown that they have no issue using third party emulators with the PS Classic Mini.

 

[ProgenitorCastle]

PCs have been emulating games on consoles for years. I'm not sure why this particular PC is seen as anything different.

For the price, it's an insane deal

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

PCs have been emulating games on consoles for years. I'm not sure why this particular PC is seen as anything different.

It's $300.

 

[fvng]

I purchased many PS1/PS2 games on PSN during the PS3 era, its terrible that they no longer offer a method to play those purchases. They clearly have a functioning PS1 & PS2 emulator that ran on PS3 perfectly, can they just port that code over. Yeesh. I feel like they are not incentivized to do this since it might cut into PSNow's appeal even though the PS2 selection on there is limited.

 

[M1chl]

How long can we expect this to last before Sony or Nintendo do soemthing

I mean, there is emulation on Android, if they would hate it so much they would do something againts that already. At least that's how I see that.

Also Jim Ryan does not care, by his own wors about old games.

And most importantly this ability was present on past Xbox One. It just getting exposure now, because machine got more powerfull, but this feature is not new.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

It's $300.

True ... I was just playing It's cool.

 

[reinking]

Pretty cool but I'm not paying $300 to play PS2 games. I've already got my X and not going to give it up for it either. I'm guessing as these stories get more popular Sony and Nintendo are going to start fighting back. Emulation on the Xbox has been low key up to this point.

 

[Orta]

PCs have been emulating games on consoles for years. I'm not sure why this particular PC is seen as anything different.

Try emulating ps2 or gamecube games on a $300 pc....

 

[01011001]

How long can we expect this to last before Sony or Nintendo do soemthing

legally they can't do anything, retroarch is 100% legal, they don't include any ROMs, ISOs or (official) Bios files.

this is all custom code that neither Nintendo nor Sony have any rights to

 

[Randum]

I will be keeping an eye on the stable releases in the future - being able to play Timesplitters on a "modern" console...yes please!

 

[ComputerBlue]

I hope they get N64 games and Goldeneye working properly in the future, if so I might eventually buy one of these if the ability to do this with them is still available. PS2 games look like shit on modern TVs but not through emulation, having some of my favorite games from past gens from various different platforms on a single console would be pretty great. I have emulation on my Vita and it's fantastic, but of course doesn't run anything too taxing.