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[Majima Everywhere System]

Lol, looks bad and now plays bad.

 

[feynoob]

I tried. I'm done defending Redfall.

Why defend first.
Enjoying the drama is much better than that.

 

[The Cockatrice]

The unimaginable has happened.

Microsoft has turned Arkane, one of the best devs in the industries, into utter garbage shit. How sad.

Deathloop was kinda meh as well. They did it themselves for trying to be HIP with the kids instead of focusing on what they do best and improving upon that. Prey and Dishonored died for these trash stuff. Reminds of Deus Ex. Maybe one day they can go back to being independent and just making what they love, what we love, just like IO did with Hitman and just like hopefully Eidos will do with Deus Ex, again.

 

[Fredrik]

Why? The game is CPU-BOUND? Can't series X run the game at 60 on a lower resolution? Even 1080p60 would be better IMO.

Yeah, this is just an IP slaughter at this point. Do like Housemarque, focus on performance, the resolution is in no way in any circumstance more important than performance in a shooter, ever.

 

[OverHeat]

Playing this on my rig….day 1

 

[Topher]

Why defend first.
Enjoying the drama is much better than that.

I want a good game more than I want drama.

 

[GymWolf]

30 fps only mode was a given after seeing the incredible graphic they showed in the trailers.

Spoiler

pc version ftw

 

[Methos#1975]

Sorry but I blame Gamepass for this, it seems that lately every Xbox game suffers issues and I cannot help but believe this is what happens when you rely on Gamepass and worry more about pushing subs than you do actual sales, quality suffers because why fucking care if your product is going to be shoveled out the door for free. The Gamepass effect hard at work once again.

 

[feynoob]

I want a good game more than I want drama.

A game is good if you can tolerate it, no matter the hype it has.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

 

[Varteras]

30 fps only mode was a given after seeing the incredible graphic they put on display in the trailers.

 

[ChiefDada]

I doubt it even holds 30 from what people are saying

 

[Rea]

Death On Arrival.

 

[MisterXDTV]

How could Microsoft possibly compete???

 

[01011001]

Playing this on my rig….day 1

it's unreal engine 4

 

[Thebonehead]

Looks at console only players....

 

[Kiraly]

What a fucking joke.

 

[OverHeat]

it's unreal engine 4

Bailout.gif

 

[adamsapple]

What a dumb fucking move lol

Guess I'm gonna wait till it gets the 60 FPS patch.

 

[dem]

343 levels of incompetence

Maybe its.. the management..

 

[Topher]

A game is good if you can tolerate it, no matter the hype it has.

Nothing to do with hype. I try to be optimistic with most games. But here, my optimism for it being a good game is turning into pessimism.

 

[Bartski]

 

[dorkimoe]

big fail. I didnt have much interest in this game anyway, dont care for coop shooters that die within a month, but this is awful. Come the fuck on. 60fps or dont bother

 

[GymWolf]

it's unreal engine 4

They say that there is a shader compile at the start...

 

[Represent.]

Good.

 

[gothmog]

Wasn't this delayed? The last thing I thought was this game coming in hot. I figured they were taking the delay to polish it up. It's kinda shocking to hear.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Of course not according to some here no games push the current consoles

The game looks and plays like dogshit with PS1-era AI. If anything it should have a 240fps mode with that crap.

 

[skit_data]

Judging by the response of many ITT and on twitter I wouldn’t rule out Redfall getting delayed

 

[feynoob]

"Wait, did you guys expect us to do that"
Aaron Greenberg.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

That'll help the whole "gamepass leads to games releasing incomplete" narrative.

Totes, bro. Games not released into GamePass always launch complete. I bet gamers not subscribed to GamePass don’t even know what a patch or update are.

On topic, I think all of the negativity around the game thus far has been overblown nonsense based on console warz, but this is some legit bullshit.

 

[Spitfire098]

 

[Fredrik]

I want a good game more than I want drama.

Defending things that aren’t looking good will actually do the opposite than give you a good game.
But I understand what you mean.
I’m done defending anyone, MS are doing so many bad things right now that I’m close to just sell my XSX alltogether and build a living room PC instead.

 

[GymWolf]

Good.

No it's not.

It would be "good" if the game was pushing the graphic like hellbalde 2 is gonna do, not when the game looks barely better than a destiny 2.

The game should have a 120hz mode, if anything.

 

[feynoob]

Nothing to do with hype. I try to be optimistic with most games. But here, my optimism for it being a good game is turning into pessimism.

I just wait for the gameplay, unless I am familiar with the series.

 

[M1chl]

And MS, Sony I know you are watching. The very worst I accept this gen is ROCK SOLID 40FPS mode. Outside of this, don't try to even think about 30FPS.

30FPS is for movies, get that shit out of games.

 

[itsjustJEFF]

I wonder if RedFall was supposed to be a Fall release but got rushed into a much earlier one, hence the 60fps version coming later... at least it's coming, but that's still pretty disappointing. I think a fair bit of console gamers have gotten used to the option, at the very least.

Would be interesting to see if either XBox/PlayStation have data on what the split between Resolution and Performance is.

 

[ulantan]

Ain't no fucking way.

 

[Kataploom]

And this is what made me stay on PC instead of moving to consoles, not a day 1 buyer so barely any issue on my side, even then most bad ports at console settings and framerates won't have any other problem anyway most of the time even on day 1. Once A Plague Tale came out out was obviously just the first of many.

 

[Warnen]

more like Red "wait for" fall for the patch...

Got Star Wars and destiny to play, shame its like they want the game to flop.

 

[AtomicStarving]

 

[Iced Arcade]

Was excited for this but fuck that, definitely waiting for a patch.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Delay it.....

 

[Elder Legend]

And after this game releases we will see headlines like - "X and Y employee leaves Arkane Studios."

Or

"Arkane Studios hit with layoffs and restructuring"

 

[TexMex]

This is as good as delayed now as far as I’m concerned. MS really needs to get their studios in order. I'll try it whenever the patch hits.

 

[Kvally]

Sucks FO SHO. But I was going to play in quality mode anyway.

 

[GHG]

I want a good game more than I want drama.

Defending games that are clearly not good enough doesn't get us good games my man, if anything it just reinforces the path they are on. It's a negative feedback loop.

 

[BootsLoader]

The only FPS game that is acceptable at those FPS is Perfect Dark 64.

 

[Fredrik]

Btw, prepare for a 30fps quality mode only on Starfield as well console folks.

 

[SlimySnake]

This doesn't really make sense, this isn't a problem for pc games in coop. You have people with unlocked frame rates running their systems as fast as they can and coop stuff still works fine while people are ranging from 60fps or even lower up into the hundreds. I know I was pretty much cpu and gpu limited in gta5 at release and 2 of the guys I played coop with for heists were on laptops just managing 40fps and primarily cpu bound with the poor things just wanting to burst into fire. Darktide I was also probably cpu and gpu bound with RT on and coop still worked fine. This whole 30fps because of coop seems like a poor excuse when we look at history.

PCs arent consoles though. Just look at how Hogarts and TLOU use up to 30-35 GB of VRAM and RAM and they run just fine on consoles with 1/3rd of the RAM. Different architectures. Different challenges.

You mentioned we look at history. We literally just had another coop open world game ship with a 30 fps a few months ago. That one actually shipped with RT at native 4k. So if the devs couldve easily run it at 60 fps, they would have. Im all for bashing lazy devs but there is clearly something here that is preventing them from shipping a 60 fps mode.

ive mentioned this several times. there is a bottleneck in these consoles somewhere. they are able to do native 4k 30 fps in A LOT of games and have to cut resolution down to almost 1080p just to get a 60 fps version up and running. I dont have this issue on PC. Just going down to 1440p gets me to 60 fps or 120 fps depending on the game. Dont forget Guardians. Or even HFW which had to go to 1800p cb which is right in the middle of 1080p and 1440p for its 60 fps mode. In fact, they could only hit 40 fps by reducing the resolution by half to 4kcb. these consoles might have some problems with the CPU.

 

[LordCBH]

A game that isn’t that good looking is locked to 30? How the fuck did they fail that hard?