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The All-Star Break is over! The NEW MLB Thread - This half we get stickied for sure!
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Dammit, why did Delgado have to stay here. Lazy SOB. If we traded him to a contender everyone would win. They'd get a great player, we'd get something in return (we'll lose him next season anyway), and he'd get to play for a ring. The guy needs to wake up and agree to a move. Now he's not even in the trade rumor section 
Meier said:
I would also like to know who will be our catcher, Hundley is out for the season i believe. It would be great if all this could land RJ but i still dont see why they want Steve Finley? I hope they asked Milton Bradley about moving from Center field since Steve has said the only way he would accept a trade is if he would be able to play Center Field.
metsallica
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Kazmir and Peterson were the crown jewels of the Mets farm system, aside from David Wright. I am utterly devastated by this.
Here are the full details of the trade:
METS GET:
Victor ZAMBRANO (from the Devil Rays)
Bartolome FORTUNATO (from the Devil Rays)
Kris BENSON (from the Pirates)
Jeff KEPPINGER (from the Pirates)
METS GIVE UP:
Scott KAZMIR (to the Devil Rays)
Jose DIAZ (to the Devil Rays)
Ty WIGGINTON (to the Pirates)
Matt PETERSON (to the Pirates)
Justin HUBER (to the Royals)
Jose BAUTISTA (from the Royals to the Pirates)
The Royals provided the impetus; Huber was traded to KC for Batista, who was promptly traded to the Pirates.
I think I got that right, I've been trying to piece this together from reports by various NY sports stations.
EDIT: rc213 found an article. All that work. Oh well.
Here are the full details of the trade:
METS GET:
Victor ZAMBRANO (from the Devil Rays)
Bartolome FORTUNATO (from the Devil Rays)
Kris BENSON (from the Pirates)
Jeff KEPPINGER (from the Pirates)
METS GIVE UP:
Scott KAZMIR (to the Devil Rays)
Jose DIAZ (to the Devil Rays)
Ty WIGGINTON (to the Pirates)
Matt PETERSON (to the Pirates)
Justin HUBER (to the Royals)
Jose BAUTISTA (from the Royals to the Pirates)
The Royals provided the impetus; Huber was traded to KC for Batista, who was promptly traded to the Pirates.
I think I got that right, I've been trying to piece this together from reports by various NY sports stations.
EDIT: rc213 found an article.
All that work. Oh well.metsallica
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She is the silver lining, I suppose. Do we all get a turn?
Paraphrasing Rick Peterson on why the Mets mortgaged their future:
Young pitching won't be ready to step up and win concurrently with the rest of the team. The infield will develop earlier then Kazmir/Peterson.
What a cop out. Seriously. This team flip-flops more than a slinky.
Paraphrasing Rick Peterson on why the Mets mortgaged their future:
Young pitching won't be ready to step up and win concurrently with the rest of the team. The infield will develop earlier then Kazmir/Peterson.
What a cop out. Seriously. This team flip-flops more than a slinky.
metsallica
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Hee hee, YER DAMN RIGHT WE WIN THE DIVISION AGAIN. And we'll keep winning it until Larry Bowa is fired in Philly. The Mets? The Mets are a bucket of flaming suck, and the moves they made in the past two days don't change that a damn bit. The Fish just gave up Brad Penny, they're not gonna catch us, and the Expos are- well, they're the Expos.Scoobert said:
Fifty said:
Those are some gorgeous, giant nipples!
And what're you talking about us trading for Charles Johnson, Scoobert? Are you living in the past? @_@ Getting Choi allows us to move Greenie back to the outfield also which makes me see even less of a reason to trade for Finley..Maybe you should live in the past.
Charles Johnson was traded to the Dodgers before the whole Penny and Choi trade happened. Their's not a lot of news about it because its, well....CJ lol.Beckett looks great tonight too. Wheres my rolleyes smilie when I need it? Arg! The man hasn't pitched in 2 months and the Marlins go and trade Penny? And no starting pitcher? WTH!
It's probably just me but the Marlins look dead today. It's like they don't want to be there. Also, Penny and Choi are in the dugout sitting next to each other. I'm sure Penny is happy though, he just because the Dodger's Ace.
Scoobert said:Maybe you should live in the past.
It's just that NO news source has anything on this at all so I was jokingly referring to CJ's shitty half year or so in LA years ago.
Meier said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1849414
Scroll down about half way, it's that one tiny sentence, lol. Marlin fans know CJ very well, he was shitty back when he was a Marlin haha. Boy he can hit, can't he? Lol.
I thought Mota was?
I still don't know if the LA/Marlins trade is good. I would love to know what they did about salaries though. The Marlins are always going for cheap players, but they went for some high priced ones? Makes you wonder if the new stadium for the Marlins has hit a snag and the Marlins are just trying to go all out to prove they need a new stadium. I really don't know.
I do hope the Marlins get a SP though. I they get a decent SP then I'll be alright with the trade. As of right now, it would be a guaranteed loss every 5th day. 4pm saturday can't come soon enough. Trade deadlines really suck, lol.
Btw:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1846812
Agree or disagree with the whole article?
I still don't know if the LA/Marlins trade is good. I would love to know what they did about salaries though. The Marlins are always going for cheap players, but they went for some high priced ones? Makes you wonder if the new stadium for the Marlins has hit a snag and the Marlins are just trying to go all out to prove they need a new stadium. I really don't know.
I do hope the Marlins get a SP though. I they get a decent SP then I'll be alright with the trade. As of right now, it would be a guaranteed loss every 5th day. 4pm saturday can't come soon enough. Trade deadlines really suck, lol.
Btw:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1846812
Agree or disagree with the whole article?
speshylives
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Uh...
"Kazmir was the Mets' first-round pick in the 2002 draft, and was pitching at Double-A Binghamton. He has struck out 259 batters in 203 1-3 innings during his minor league career."
Methinks the Mets confused Victor with Carlos. It makes absolutely no sense.
Besides all of that, I thought the problem at Shea was they weren't hitting the ball. Does't Glavine routinely lose 2-1 or 3-2?
This is just idiotic. Up there with letting Felix Heredia out of the bullpen.
"Kazmir was the Mets' first-round pick in the 2002 draft, and was pitching at Double-A Binghamton. He has struck out 259 batters in 203 1-3 innings during his minor league career."
Methinks the Mets confused Victor with Carlos. It makes absolutely no sense.
Besides all of that, I thought the problem at Shea was they weren't hitting the ball. Does't Glavine routinely lose 2-1 or 3-2?
This is just idiotic. Up there with letting Felix Heredia out of the bullpen.
golem said:
Lo duca is 33 for Choi is 25
Mota is 31 for Penny is 26
it was a youth trade. Althought I miss Paulie i think the trade was worth it. Now come to think of it I really dont want RJ & Finnely becuase that would mean we would have to give up Werth, Penny and prospects which is a terrible move.
Damn Dodgers should've saved some runs for Ishii tommorow! =P
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/n...730&content_id=814270&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp
Seriously WTF!!! sending the Diamondbacks Penny, outfielder Jayson Werth, pitcher Edwin Jackson and minor leaguers. HELL F*CKING NO! This sh*t isnt even funny! F*ck getting Randy Johnson if its going to cost us all that! F*CK HIM!!!!!!!!!!
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/n...730&content_id=814270&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp
Seriously WTF!!! sending the Diamondbacks Penny, outfielder Jayson Werth, pitcher Edwin Jackson and minor leaguers. HELL F*CKING NO! This sh*t isnt even funny! F*ck getting Randy Johnson if its going to cost us all that! F*CK HIM!!!!!!!!!!
EDWIN JACKSON AND MINOR LEAUGERS TOO? FUCK THAT! We gave up good prospects for Shuey and that motherfucker sucked for us last year and now is probably done. DePodesta is making the same mistakes as our GM's made in the mid 90s.. trading all of our young talent away. This is a BAD FUCKING MOVE.
The whole thing with Charles Johnson is a mess. He still hasn't even said yes or no. Either way, CJ going to LA might be a good thing for the Marlins.
If CJ goes to LA and the Rockies have LA take on his salary, the Rockies are willing to eat up some of Walkers salary so he can be traded to the Marlins. But then Walker has his no trade clause also.
7 more hours until deadline! Should be very interesting.
If CJ goes to LA and the Rockies have LA take on his salary, the Rockies are willing to eat up some of Walkers salary so he can be traded to the Marlins. But then Walker has his no trade clause also.
7 more hours until deadline! Should be very interesting.
Sirpopopop
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Jim Duquette should be fired for the Scott Kazmir deal, and Fred Wilpon should be forcibly stripped of the team for allowing it to go through.
Steven finely would ruin our chemistry. Why fix it if it ain't broke. Bradley is doing an awesome job at center field. That catch yesterday should be an indication of that. And Werth is the real deal
I dont think Depo will get finley. I would he very shocked if he did. The media is just hyping the last minute trade deadline
I dont think Depo will get finley. I would he very shocked if he did. The media is just hyping the last minute trade deadline
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