FUCK. Dodgers traded Abercrombie and Murphy plus some other kid I havent heard of for Finley... and now we have 4 outfielders again which really makes no sense at all. What the fuck was DePodesta thinking trading so many players while we were in first place and the hottest team in the bigs arguably? We tried to go young with the deals from the Marlins and then add two old ass dudes from the Dbacks. DOES NOT COMPUTE.
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Uhh the Dodgers WERE winning it right now without making these awful trades. The Dodgers have the best record in baseball in 1-run games and that fact is largely due to the Mota/Gagné combination. Why fuck with that? Our offense has been popping lately too and we traded the third or fourth best hitting catcher in the bigs? It's lunacy and makes 0 sense at all.
Jim Hendry, I could perform sexual favors on you right now. You're my hero! He plays the GM role like I'd do in my franchise of MLB 2004 with fair trading turned off. The talent on this team is mind numbing.
Lineup: (no clue about order you want em)
Todd Walker/Mark Grudzielanek
Nomar Garciaparra
Corey Patterson
Sammy Sosa
Aramis Ramirez
Moises Alou
Derek Lee
Michael Barret
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Rotation:
Mark Prior
Kerry Wood
Matt Clement
Carlos Zambrano
Greg Maddux
The only problem for us I'd say is the bullpen. No definite closer. We rely on Farnsworth and Hawkins who havent been completely reliable. Borowski is an unknown. I dunno. That is something you can deal with though. As a team this roster looks downright scary. Anyway, set a date for tomorrow's game. Maddux going for 300 and Nomar likely in the lineup!
Lineup: (no clue about order you want em)
Todd Walker/Mark Grudzielanek
Nomar Garciaparra
Corey Patterson
Sammy Sosa
Aramis Ramirez
Moises Alou
Derek Lee
Michael Barret
pitcher
Rotation:
Mark Prior
Kerry Wood
Matt Clement
Carlos Zambrano
Greg Maddux
The only problem for us I'd say is the bullpen. No definite closer. We rely on Farnsworth and Hawkins who havent been completely reliable. Borowski is an unknown. I dunno. That is something you can deal with though. As a team this roster looks downright scary. Anyway, set a date for tomorrow's game. Maddux going for 300 and Nomar likely in the lineup!
they were/are over-achieving. this puts them over the top. they should be favorites to win the west now.Meier said:
im not even sure if that trade went through. jose had a no-trade clause, who knows if he waived it.Fifty said:
wait, just checked espn.com, seems official. i was always optimistic on jose, but the guy is just so damn inconsistent. we'll see, right now it seems like it may just be a wash.
You should have been Paulie.. you should have been. And no, the Dodgers werent overachieving -- they were UNDERachieving for a month stretch when we slumped. For the vast majority of the year, the Dodgers have been in 1st place and were about 13 games up back in May. I fully support us gettign rid of Encarnacion since he's been terrible this year.. but giving up Mota and Lo Duca is a move that will haunt the Dodgers for years to come IMO. David Ross has some pop but he is not an every day catcher.. and Mayne is even worse.
I'm so pissed right now.
brooklyngooner
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Any Mets fans on this board want to talk about Benson and Zambrano?
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01 @ CIN 12:15 PM - Oswalt
wheee, back to .500 we go...please pull out a win tommorow O!
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01 @ CIN 12:15 PM - Oswalt
wheee, back to .500 we go...please pull out a win tommorow O!
Fifty said:
lol, not even close. Loaiza this year is a scrub. Period. I'm not high on Contreras, but I'd say it is an even trade. Jose is inconsistant, Esteban is a consistant 4-6 runs in 6 innings. Pick your poison. What we really needed was another bat.
Mrbob said:
Nah. Loaiza is a 4/5 starter this year. His ERA is 4.86, and he barely strikes anyone out. Conteras has a higher ERA, but he has his nights where he's unhittable. Esteban hasn't had any of those this year. Like I said, it's inconsistancy Vs. mediocrity. Not that Jose is that much better. Again, I'd say it's an even trade. Shoulda got another bat though.
Still, if we can somehow muster enough offense to make the play-offs, I love our 1-2-3 of Buehrle, Garcia and Contereras. though jose will almost assuredly choke =p
As far as the Cubs...jesus they made out like bandits.
putting on pinstripes can do magical things for players. 
even if loaiza continues to pitch as he's been the pitching this season so far then its an upgrade. if scott proctor goes to the white sox with contreras you're gonna like him a lot.
oh and be prepared to be VERY frustrated with contreras. just a warning.
even if loaiza continues to pitch as he's been the pitching this season so far then its an upgrade. if scott proctor goes to the white sox with contreras you're gonna like him a lot.
oh and be prepared to be VERY frustrated with contreras. just a warning.
Lol, i don't hate Dusty.
Getting Dusty was a good move. Whether or not you like him he was the hottest manager on the block at the time. He still is considered one of the top managers. I'm just talking about the moves Hendry has made. They don't always work out like they should but he has outclassed all the other GMs in the past two years. As a Cubs fan, it is sometimes weird to realize you have a GM that is taking all the steps to make your team a WS contender.
Getting Dusty was a good move. Whether or not you like him he was the hottest manager on the block at the time. He still is considered one of the top managers. I'm just talking about the moves Hendry has made. They don't always work out like they should but he has outclassed all the other GMs in the past two years. As a Cubs fan, it is sometimes weird to realize you have a GM that is taking all the steps to make your team a WS contender.
Don't forget the Lee-Choi trade.
And the Cubs also picked up Matt Murton (Red Sox). An outfield prospect.
http://www.soxprospects.com/players/murton-matt.htm
And the Cubs also picked up Matt Murton (Red Sox). An outfield prospect.
http://www.soxprospects.com/players/murton-matt.htm
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First half of August is against the nLEAST. Atlanta always gives us trouble, but we need to win the series...we SHOULD be able to get 5 wins against montreal. Of course, we only won 4 of 6 against an even worse Dbacks team...=/ The Mets series should be fun, we get to see Doggie again. He'll probably kill us. >_< still, a series win is NEEDED. In these 12 games I hope for 8 or 9 wins. Nothing so far has shown me they can do that. I WANT to be surprised. The pitching staff is going to cause us grief...we have Clemens, Oswalt...Then Munro? Redding is an even bigger question than Munro. And Oliver...let's just hope he can do as well as he did today. 69 pitches on 5 innings, 0 ER. His career stats say otherwise. I still want to see if bringing up Backe [who has been converted into a starter] or Hernandez could do any good.
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2nd half of August is the true test for this club. A whole bunch of games with Wildcard contenders...last time we had a stretch of games like this [vs. SD and LA] we blew it. That 4 game series at Wrigley is gonna be hell. This is the earliest Wade Miller will return; if he does that'll give us a little boost, hopefully. He wasn't all that consistent before the injury, though. If we lose these series, it's even MORE over for this club. Of course if they don't win 8-9 in the first half of August then it really doesn't matter. Sure they could miraculously put together some sweeps on Philly/Chitown...err, no they couldn't. 16 games, they need 11-12. I doubt they get that many, but it's their only chance.
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First half of August is against the nLEAST. Atlanta always gives us trouble, but we need to win the series...we SHOULD be able to get 5 wins against montreal. Of course, we only won 4 of 6 against an even worse Dbacks team...=/ The Mets series should be fun, we get to see Doggie again. He'll probably kill us. >_< still, a series win is NEEDED. In these 12 games I hope for 8 or 9 wins. Nothing so far has shown me they can do that. I WANT to be surprised. The pitching staff is going to cause us grief...we have Clemens, Oswalt...Then Munro? Redding is an even bigger question than Munro. And Oliver...let's just hope he can do as well as he did today. 69 pitches on 5 innings, 0 ER. His career stats say otherwise. I still want to see if bringing up Backe [who has been converted into a starter] or Hernandez could do any good.
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1 @ CIN 11:35 AM
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2nd half of August is the true test for this club. A whole bunch of games with Wildcard contenders...last time we had a stretch of games like this [vs. SD and LA] we blew it. That 4 game series at Wrigley is gonna be hell. This is the earliest Wade Miller will return; if he does that'll give us a little boost, hopefully. He wasn't all that consistent before the injury, though. If we lose these series, it's even MORE over for this club. Of course if they don't win 8-9 in the first half of August then it really doesn't matter. Sure they could miraculously put together some sweeps on Philly/Chitown...err, no they couldn't. 16 games, they need 11-12. I doubt they get that many, but it's their only chance.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Desperado,how old are you? How long have you been a stros fan? You have to let the suffering end and just let go of this season.
Its also time to face reality for what it is...during our time on this planet we will never see the Astros win or make it to the World series.
Its also time to face reality for what it is...during our time on this planet we will never see the Astros win or make it to the World series.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Fifty said:You're 5.5 games back of the wildcard!with 58 to play. If he wants to be a diehard fan, let him.
Ive been die-hard since I was like 3 or 4 years old *my dad started me early* Over twenty something years of failure has finally gotten to me..I cant shed a tear over them this year,deep down in my left nut I expected this to happen.
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