MisterXDTV
Member
Most TVs only support the official standard as specified by the HDMI consortium...
And consoles are meant to be connected to TVs, not PC monitors...
That's why 1440p is useless on consoles
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VRR support rolling out this week for PS5
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Most TVs only support the official standard as specified by the HDMI consortium...
And consoles are meant to be connected to TVs, not PC monitors...
That's why 1440p is useless on consoles
GHG
Member
Poor Rick? He brought it on himself. Don't start shit, there won't be shit.
He's always had a habit of liking egg on his face. Must be a hungry chap.
MasterCornholio
Member
Wonder if it’s a good time to upgrade my monitor. Always was thinking about going with a dual screen setup.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This was probably true in the PS2 generation, but 360 onwards have been extremely good on PC monitors. Those consoles also have native support for 1440p. Hell, 360 even have native support for arbitrary PC resolutions like 1024 x 768 back in the day.
It's just a Sony thing, they held back on VRR for PS5 until they got it working on their TVs, they do things that works best on their own TV technology first and foremost.
Hence you're probably never going to see a non-TV standard resolution on their consoles.
(PS: I'm speaking as a console owner who has both my PS4 Pro and Series X connected to a 4K VRR PC monitor).
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
90% of my console gaming is done on monitors and love them
Wonder if it’s a good time to upgrade my monitor. Always was thinking about going with a dual screen setup.
MasterCornholio
Member
Only thing I’m worried about is compatibility issues since the PS5 won’t support G Sync or Free Sync.
GHG
Member
Wonder if it’s a good time to upgrade my monitor. Always was thinking about going with a dual screen setup.
Unless you need dual screens for productivity purposes you'll probably be better off getting a 42-50" TV from LG/Sony/Samsung.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Captain Toad
Banned
They shouldn't bother. The vast majority of PS5 players are playing on television sets (like they should).
MasterCornholio
Member
Honestly I think Ricky enjoys it.
remember_spinal
Banned
xbox fans literally patting themselves on the back in this thread lmao
Hobbygaming
has been asked to post in 'Grounded' mode.
On to the next acronym.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
I have been dual monitoring for about half of my life and honestly I can go back to 1 monitor.But i have some attention trouble so it is always good to have multiple things to focus on.When I was younger I used to watch multiple series at the same times or watch a movie while playing games.It is even better for games that needs a guide(or cheat codes for older games).And now that I live with my girlfriend having 2 screens is a blessing.
Wonder if it’s a good time to upgrade my monitor. Always was thinking about going with a dual screen setup.
MisterXDTV
Member
Even on Xbox (every model) if you output at 1440p, you are stuck in SDR mode...
2160p is a requirement for HDR
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You can set your system resolution to 1440p, check the "Enable 4K" box and you should be able to use HDR without any issues.
The games will get super sampled to your displays 1440p resolution from whatever their native resolution is and you get HDR.
MasterCornholio
Member
Basically my idea is to keep my old monitor for my PC and then use the new one with my PS5 and PC. But I want to make sure the monitor is 4K and supports VRR at a minimum so if I need it I’ll have access to the feature. I personally didn’t ever feel I needed it to enjoy my games but it can help improve my experience with some of them.
dcmk7
Banned
By his own account he's coming up to retirement age - I would like to think he had better things to do than take satisfaction in being one of the biggest trolls around here
but sadly don't think that's the case.
GHG
Member
SenjutsuSage
Banned
What has he worked with on Starfield? I've never seen that. If he bought Xbox that would be unfortunate, but I'd hang in there. You have to have some values.
Oh, he's very tight with Bethesda and Todd, and he's very much into gaming. Now, it just so happens that he, due to his Tesla and SpaceX stuff, has all kinds of access to various people who can give very detailed and significant information to the dev studio on the various mechanisms and inner workings of pieces of real equipment and where the tech would be years from now IF certain challenges were solved, of which a videogame has no such limitation. And so Bethesda has no doubt been picking his people's brain, of which I'm sure he has gladly made them available to help since he's also looking forward to the game. He was also part of a sit down discussion where Todd Howard talked about the game. If you notice inside the stuff that has been show so far, especially inside the ships, they seem to have nailed the basic functionality of various things and have implemented them pretty well by the looks of what footage we have seen thus far.
I'm certain before long or come release we will hear about some level of his involvement on the game depending on how much Microsoft or Bethesda wish to highlight that aspect.
Physiognomonics
Member
No. They'll need to also unlock the 40fps mode. I don't think they talk about the 40fps mode.
Captain Toad
Banned
Yeah, right. Watch he will suddenly only game at 1440p. Anything other than that is unplayable.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Yeah would probably wait until testing starts I will be able to give for sure updates on the LG 27GP950 and once I get back to Florida in a couple of weeks the Gigabyte M32U
MisterXDTV
Member
No, it was already explained many times.
1440p HDR is not possible on Xbox
If you check enable 4K you are enabling 2160p output again when the game starts
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yep, I'm in a similar setup.I use an old 1080p TV for side internet pages or videos and my 4k Tv for ps5/Pc (quick tip: I set a custom resolution on nvidia control panel (basically supersampling) to output a 4K signal on my 1080p TV, it helps avoiding weird resizing of windows and mouse being "locked" since the left screen is a quarter of my tv's resolution).
I almost always game on my TV except if the lady need to watch a show on TV but hey 1 evening once a week ain't that big of a deal.
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Captain Toad
Banned
Go ahead and name ONE person here who downplayed VRR and changed their opinion in this thread. I'm sure you'd have no trouble since you are implying it's a lot of people.Weird how VRR suddenly matters huh
Die Namek Ability
Member
To be fair, they did this to themselves...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Right but that's not gonna make a difference as games will super sample, games render at their resolution regardless of what you set your system to.
If you're looking for all games to render natively at 1440p if you set system to 1440p, that's a whole different topic and it doesn't happen on the current consoles.
MisterXDTV
Member
The 1440p monitor has to accept a 2160p input signal and downscale it. Not many do...
Not even the latest Ultrawide QD-OLED by Dell
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Captain Toad
Banned
Actually, Elden Ring PS4 version runs perfectly on PS5. And it's still the best option with much less pop-in compared to PS5 and XSS/X. Not to mention the long load times on Xbox.
Die Namek Ability
Member
Ps4 loads slower than the XsX version. I would say the PS5 version is the best way to play (even before VRR)
DaGwaphics
Member
Off topic for the thread. But I love the attention to detail, if that is the case. I try not to consider politics and the like for insignificant things like entertainment, etc. Whatever involvement he has there doesn't bother me, plus it's not like I know what his views are on specific things in any detail. The Twitter thing can have major implications in a lot of things, so that's a bit different for me. Free speech on Twitter I've got no problem with, but he has hinted at supporting intentional misinformation campaigns that can be very negative for society and even public health.
FrankWza
Member
He means PS4 on PS5.
Captain Toad
Banned
Not on PS5, it doesn't.
Doctor Hades
Member
Odd that this update is going to be “rolled out” this week. Firmware updates are usually global and released worldwide at the same time as far as I’m aware. Does this rollout means that Sony is releasing the update in certain territories/countries first?
DaGwaphics
Member
This. Plus, most 1440p screens have no problem super-sampling from a 4k signal, so the resolution still has some merit if a lot of the content isn't really hitting 4k but is higher than 1440. Obviously best if the console handles the scaling, but it can be done without it.
Die Namek Ability
Member
It this the case? I thought the XsX version was faster than the PS4 version on PS5, i must be misremembering
Captain Toad
Banned
PS5's Elden Ring has a distinct edge over Xbox Series X's Elden Ring - thetechxp
Play Elden Ring on PlayStation 5 and not Xbox Series X.
thetechxp.com
The Load Times Are Insufferable - Elden Ring
For Elden Ring on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "The Load Times Are Insufferable" - Page 5.
gamefaqs.gamespot.com
Die Namek Ability
Member
What specifically is not the case in thier post?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Yea, I take no issue with that. It's entertainment. And agreed on his support of those misinformation campaigns. Super dangerous, but alas I've put it out of mind. For people that wanted to be able to reach me, I just told them they can hit me up on discord and other people have my personal number. Shame, too, cause I genuinely always liked twitter, but gotta put it aside.
FrankWza
Member
GHG
Member
8BiTw0LF
Banned
Yes they do. It's the 40fps, 120hz with VRR that will gain most from VRR. It will be ~60fps Fidelity mode.
Mr Moose
Member
It might be with the recent updates but it wasn't at launch from what I remember, I believe 1.03 improved things on Series consoles including loading times.
DaGwaphics
Member
What? We've loved this feature since like 2017. Welcome to the party.
bender
What time is it?
2013 called and told me to tell you that you are late to the party.
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DaGwaphics
Member
touche
TLZ
Banned
I still think Riky is Richard of DF.By his own account he's coming up to retirement age - I would like to think he had better things to do than take satisfaction in being one of the biggest trolls around here