Crayon
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Xbox:"Console wars aren't worth your time – playing games is 💚"
Our Savior/Dear Leader
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Papa Phil, Good Guy Phil, etc...
Lokaum D+
Member
Stop the console war, GAF
i ll say that consoles war is way more entertaining than some new games out there.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Their gaming leadership is a social construct.
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Horseganador
Member
Playstation is directed from the US, when you see a senior Sony leader following the networks and staying with the most toxic of Twitter and the networks then they will be just as bad.
Sony is at least as bad. You’re just far removed from it because all the senior leadership is in Europe & Japan. And MS is entirely NA
mansoor1980
Gold Member
TheGodfather07
Member
Says the guys that literally do podcasts with the most toxic fanboys out there and execs who talk shit about the competition. Look at some of the shit that has come out from the Activision case from the likes of Phil spencer and matt booty. Then there's greenberg, who seems to do nothing but console war and gets to keep his job because one of the higher ups must be related to him.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's because it comes from those above him. He's a product of their culture and strategy there, he's not a "loose cannon."
Gojiira
Member
Mate April Fools was months ago…
Xbox really are the most pathetic example of a hypocrite, are we just supposed to forget how often and how hard they fan the flames? Fuck off Fill, maybe go at least a generation with some actual games then you can start changing public perception.
Xbox really are the most pathetic example of a hypocrite, are we just supposed to forget how often and how hard they fan the flames? Fuck off Fill, maybe go at least a generation with some actual games then you can start changing public perception.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Sony is at least as bad. You’re just far removed from it because all the senior leadership is in Europe & Japan. And MS is entirely NA
Klayzer
Member
Still waiting for those Sonytoo prescriptions/receipts Dr. Wilk
DJ12
Member
Receipts please.
Sony is at least as bad. You’re just far removed from it because all the senior leadership is in Europe & Japan. And MS is entirely NA
Show just one link to jimbo or anyone high up showing up on some toxic twats playstation podcast, youtube channel or twitter account.
Won't take more than 2 seconds if they are 'just as bad' as Microsoft.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
God who cares
Klayzer
Member
Lol. That cant be an official response.
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Spitfire098
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Knightime_X
Member
It's only warring when you actively keep 3rd party games away from other consoles by paying them for exclusivity.
1st party and 3rd that decides on their own is fair game.
1st party and 3rd that decides on their own is fair game.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
MS-Xbox is the company that most actively promotes the console war through its media terminals (Tom Warren, Jez Corden and its magazines, etc...), Spencer with its references to Sony or Greenberg and its army of PRs on Twitter, The best thing they could do is keep quiet because they couldn't be more hypocritical and cynical.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Negotiator101
Member
Sounds like you're a man of experience.
Spitfire098
Member
How do you know which one decides on their own?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Knightime_X
Member
Announcements by the dev themselves.
Sometimes it's plainly obvious. Like Baldur's gate 3 not being on switch.
Guntherlibby
Neo Member
Company that lost the war doesn't want you to think about the war they lost.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Mr.Phoenix
Member
Ok... I tried to not say anything but I couldn't hold it in anymore.
Am I the only one who is bugged the hell out by a heart having a green color? Anything other than a red heart just seems... strange to me.
Am I the only one who is bugged the hell out by a heart having a green color? Anything other than a red heart just seems... strange to me.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Lol beautiful that all of them have the pronouns you expect them to. That the whole company has to implement this for maybe 10 employees is just mind-boggling.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
So, they all war then?
Knightime_X
Member
Passively, I suppose.
graywolf323
Member
It’s been such a weird month with him only just returning from the latest ban todayYou sure?
it almost looks sickly?
/s
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
No matter how we choose to spin it, they've all done it. It's a nothing statement.
GetInTheRobot
Banned
Ever since switching to PC, the console wars seem sillier and sillier.
Bernoulli
M2 slut
You sure?
Topher
Gold Member
Chief and XCapim (Xgrass), members of Xbox Milgrau (Thousand Degree) along with Microsoft executives. Xbox Milgrau was the most toxic channel that ever existed, even losing several lawsuits for slander and defamation. They attacked minorities, insulted women, and rallied their online gang to launch attacks against people they didn't like. They even ran a campaign to spoil The Last of Us 2 at launch.
They did this for years.
Do you know when Microsoft cut ties? It was when they made (another) racist joke, but this time it was during the George Floyd protests.
Everyone started messaging Microsoft, asking if they weren't going to do anything, and Phil immediately realized it would look very bad.
Microsoft Finally Severs Ties With Racist Brazilian YouTubers
Xbox Mil Grau attacked marginalized people for years, insulated by a relationship with Microsoft. Brazilian gamers have had enough.www.vice.com
Sources concerned about Xbox Mil Grau told Motherboard that over the past few years, the channel rose to prominence by harnessing the toxicity fueled by console wars.
"They started as every gamergater did: harassing people under the 'ethics in game journalism' flag," a Brazilian journalist, who wished to remain anonymous for fear of repercussions, told Motherboard over email. This person has worked in video game journalism since 2014, and said they watched Xbox Mil Grau rise to popularity through smears and attacks.
"They did that by exposing journalists and popular YouTubers that disliked or gave low review scores for Xbox games," the source said. "When journalists started making their accounts private, they just went for plain harassment instead. Needless to say, but the harassment was even worse when they attacked female journalists."
Bruna Penilhas, a video game journalist in Brazil, told Motherboard that in addition to the abuses she suffered from Mil Grau online, which was "hell for many days," they also took their harassment offline.
"At the [Brazilian Game Show], which is like the Brazilian E3, he and his followers came to our booth with posters accusing us of several false things," Penilhas said over Twitter direct messages. "When I recorded a video at the Xbox booth, they tried to sabotage and appear in the background. At the same event, he had the opportunity to take the stage of an Xbox Brazil presentation and talk to Phil Spencer. In 2018, Mixer took them to E3. It was always very frustrating for me and my colleagues, because nothing was done."
"In mid-2018, a few weeks before E3, the new head of Xbox in Brazil, Bruno Lobo Motta, visited some video game outlet newsrooms, including ours, to meet the press and inevitably we talked about Xbox Mil Grau," the source said. "Mr. Motta assured us that they warned the global Mixer office about Xbox Mil Grau's offensive behavior and we didn't need to worry about [the channel] at E3. Shortly after E3, they left Mixer and went to Twitch, but I'm not sure this is related to changes in their relationship with Mixer itself. However, at some level, Microsoft's global offices were aware of these guys since 2017, but still allowed him to use his brand."
Klayzer
Member
Look at the big brain on Brad GIF.
Alan Wake
Member
Sega was masterclass console warrior. Sega does what Nintendon't!This is what console wars looked like.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Funnily enough, MS seems to be following Sega.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
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This new generation really is soft. Back in the 16 bit days console warriors took out full or double page ads to flex. Now we just get passive aggressive weak flames on twitter with cries for mercy to stop fighting the next day.
Crayon
Member
This is what console wars looked like.
Sure, when we were 12 and the dynamics of internet crowd behavior could not even be imagined. Much less social media.
The reason they do this more than the other two is that they have been doing it harder and longer. Long before they ever cared about consoles.
Document I revealed that "FUD" (spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt) was a traditional Microsoft marketing strategy, acknowledged and understood internally. Examples of Microsoft's FUD tactics are announcing nonexistent products or spreading rumors that competing products will crash Windows.
AKA spreading rumors among useful idiots. Note how the internet dynamic forced them to rethink their strategy:
The ability of the OSS process to collect and harness the collective IQ of thousands of individuals across the Internet is simply amazing. More importantly, OSS evangelization scales with the size of the Internet much faster than our own evangelization efforts appear to scale.
This is deeply ingrained in the company culture. I'll look at any evidence that it has stopped or slowed down, or anything other than simply adapting to the times in the face of my lying eyes.
