Good for Jim for getting the obvious here. I mean, what?! How is this same thought not screaming through the head of anyone who looks at the details. It's simply outrageous and hilarious (in a demented) way. I don't think I've ever seen such shit in my entire gaming life. The lies and hilarity of it all. "Gamestop's the enemy! Gamestop's the enemy! Gamestop's the enemy!... Pst! You know all those pre-order exclusives we gave you last gen, how would you like to exclusively handle used game sales?! Cha-ching!"
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Good for Jim for getting the obvious here. I mean, what?! How is this same thought not screaming through the head of anyone who looks at the details. It's simply outrageous and hilarious (in a demented) way. I don't think I've ever seen such shit in my entire gaming life. The lies and hilarity of it all. "Gamestop's the enemy! Gamestop's the enemy! Gamestop's the enemy!... Pst! You know all those pre-order exclusives we gave you last gen, how would you like to exclusively handle used game sales?! Cha-ching!"
I'm not even sure why all this DRM education is needed. I would think the statement, "PS4 is nearly twice as powerful as XB1" would be enough.
Honestly, Microsoft seems to be holding zero trump cards leading into next gen. Zero. They're not even the most powerful console by a mile this time and that's a first for them.
Are they this out of touch? Do they think timed exclusive DLC's will keep them looking like the better deal?
Honestly, Microsoft seems to be holding zero trump cards leading into next gen. Zero. They're not even the most powerful console by a mile this time and that's a first for them.
Are they this out of touch? Do they think timed exclusive DLC's will keep them looking like the better deal?
Bloody horrific.Take a good look at this shit and then think back to how we have enjoyed games over the years. Certainly puts things into perspective, does it not? Drop your 'party' affiliation nonsense and look at it for what it is outside of that box.
So so fucked...
I was seriously holding out some hope the backlash would lead to SOMETHING giving with this shit, but nope, still needlessly complicated, still anti-consumer, still non-optional online connection... Fucking hell.
All I want is a console I can plug in and play and think about nothing else, with games I can play and give to whoever I like as a lend and sell/trade when I'm done with them. Why can't I have this? Why do I need to "check in" daily like I'm out on fucking parole or something? Why can't I trade in a game at cash converter and use the credit to buy another game?
If this happens on PS4(And I'm worrying it will now) then I'm done, so done.
I was seriously holding out some hope the backlash would lead to SOMETHING giving with this shit, but nope, still needlessly complicated, still anti-consumer, still non-optional online connection... Fucking hell.
All I want is a console I can plug in and play and think about nothing else, with games I can play and give to whoever I like as a lend and sell/trade when I'm done with them. Why can't I have this? Why do I need to "check in" daily like I'm out on fucking parole or something? Why can't I trade in a game at cash converter and use the credit to buy another game?
If this happens on PS4(And I'm worrying it will now) then I'm done, so done.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Surprise, the three biggest publishers are behind it.
I don't follow, you can't play 1 disc on 2 consoles simultaneously, how is this any different?
12+ million copies sold later...
Hand in hand, krpt0nian. Brothers on this issue for life
How much further do they have to go to be 1984 creepy?
It's already a sophisticated camera that literally never turns off, with infra-red vision, full voice recording and sophisticated voice recognition software, and it's connected to the internet at all times. And it's coming from a company that has been selling data on its users in bulk for 6 years.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Wow. Jim Sterling has become my new hero. One of the few in the press calling MS out for their BS.
That...actually gives me a glimmer of hope.From the Sony conference thread. SCEA employee.
RedNumberFive
Banned
You ARE the product.
Just keeping track
And to think I was looking forward for this console back in February just to see what they would be doing against the PS4, I was excited for them. This was meant to be my first MS console (haven't bought an X1 nor 360). I will never buy a console from MS after this shitfest.
Sony, you have my money... Again
Sony, you have my money... Again
He mentioned something about creating a thread regarding new accounts and the email address associated with them.
GoofsterStud
Member
OMG... Imagine retailers getting pissed that they dont' have the option to sell used games and drop support. It'd be Sega Saturn all over again...but worse.
Rising_Hei
Member
We'll believe it once its confirmed, dear MS PR haha
Vincent4756
Member
But this means that there is something in place that could still be a pain correct?
giancarlo123x
Banned
Jwong has won the ebay auction. Now you must pay me, add me on XBL and wait 30 days for your game...this is stupid. It should be do as you please with your physical copy.
BUT but but.. we are listening. Just listening.
Please understand, we are listening.
Delusibeta
Banned
Correct and no, it's a strictly one time transfer per game.
From the Sony conference thread. SCEA employee.
Dear God please let this be a tiny glimmer of hope us gamers need.
Sony, dont be a lemming and follow MS off the cliff.
GillianSeed79
Member
Wait, wait, wait is it really up to publishers whether or not they allow resale to select "participating retailers"? I read that in the thread, but is that really true?
If so, then holy fucking shit. That, along with the 24-hour check in, can't lend/give games to your friends unless they've been on your friends list for 30 days is cray cray.
I know they said renting won't be availble at launch. For Gamefly, though, don't they have deal where you can get unlimited PC downloads? Do you think MS would let Gamefly do that to or is basically everybody except Gamestop fucked because of this?
If so, then holy fucking shit. That, along with the 24-hour check in, can't lend/give games to your friends unless they've been on your friends list for 30 days is cray cray.
I know they said renting won't be availble at launch. For Gamefly, though, don't they have deal where you can get unlimited PC downloads? Do you think MS would let Gamefly do that to or is basically everybody except Gamestop fucked because of this?
PanicFreak
Member
They will probably make a system where you have an admin account and all other accounts associated with the admin account (probably means same credit card) get to be a family
Man, I was thinking I walked into the twilight zone with so many people saying "eh this isn't bad" and "this is actually better than I expected".
Until...
Thank you Gaf Gods, thank you.
Wait, so Bish is actively banning the marketing plants already?! :O
I hope that list comes out asap! I cant wait!
WrenchNinja
Member
He's a SCEA producer.
Yeah it's the publishers oushing for this. And MS would never do it if Sony could use it as a selling point against them
Because they were payed to have an opinion.
MirageDwarf
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shinobi602
Member
No matter how much profit these assholes generate, it's never enough.
Confidence Man
Member
Sounds like publishers can basically deny trade-ins on games for a period of time, like you'll only be able to resell after a month, two months, or whatever they decide.
Welcome. Already started (Was going to tonight anyway).
Ace Harding
Member
Well this is the first I'm seeing this.
I'm disappointed.
I was actually on the "corporate shill" side (undeservedly so), and thought it was possible that Microsoft could assess the situation, regroup, and formulate a plan that wouldn't piss too many people off. I was wrong.
These policies wouldn't affect me. At all. But I want to buy the console I know has life, has followers. This is not that console. They misread their consumers. I cannot believe how out of touch they are. How do you read and hear everything your most devoted customers are saying and follow up with this?
Worst PR ever. Dumbest decisions ever.
I'm disappointed.
I was actually on the "corporate shill" side (undeservedly so), and thought it was possible that Microsoft could assess the situation, regroup, and formulate a plan that wouldn't piss too many people off. I was wrong.
These policies wouldn't affect me. At all. But I want to buy the console I know has life, has followers. This is not that console. They misread their consumers. I cannot believe how out of touch they are. How do you read and hear everything your most devoted customers are saying and follow up with this?
Worst PR ever. Dumbest decisions ever.
Anyone know when they record?
ThatObviousUser
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The ban count is getting crazy. How many now?
SenjutsuSage: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=61780568&postcount=685
Speedy Blue Dude: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=61782374&postcount=780
Hunter Gather: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=61789892&postcount=1248
crusadernm: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=61806752&postcount=2233
RyanReedyMusic: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=61812206&postcount=2458
MrNyarlathotep was banned but not for a post in this thread I think, he's also an old-school GAFer.
The PS3 was always more powerful than the 360. Look at games like Uncharted or The Last of Us, impossible on the 360. PS3 was just harder to code for so multiplat devs couldn't unleash the full potential right away.
Bah, not surprised. This just means Sony may hold out for a bit, but these policies will eventually infest the PS4. Not even Sony can deny the big 3 for too long.
All MS said is that you WILL need a connection to play it. Do you see where the problem lies?
Jeff Albertson
Member
Really disappointed by this
Disgusted in fact, no way I am buying something to be limited like that
Maybe time to dust off the Amiga 500+
Disgusted in fact, no way I am buying something to be limited like that
Maybe time to dust off the Amiga 500+
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