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Bloodborne is the first 'Souls' game I ever played and I am wondering if I am playing it 'right'.

Currently I'm 15 hours in, I just beat

Spoiler

Vicar Amelia

and I'm level 40+. I see people here saying they are around level 22 when beating that boss. So I wondered if I'm making the game 'too easy' by leveling up too much/fast. Currently the game is challenging but most fights leave enough room for error. I do want to learn the mechanics properly, so is this the right way to go? Taking future bosses and the soft/hard stat caps into account.

It's not that I'm grinding levels but I'm exploring, learning the mechanics and then cash in the blood echoes. You gain levels quite fast that way.

 

[Stereogatari]

FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK FATHER GASCOIGNE WITH A TEN FOOT POLE.

Seriously, his beast form is fucking infuriating. The speed of its attacks means I am dead the moment he connects one fucking blow.

FUCK THIS SHIT SO MUCH.

I really hate the visceral attack system in the game. I can now consistently pull parries in the game, but even when I intentionally pull them right in front of the enemy, know he is staggered, and press r1, sometimes my stupid fucking hunter carries a regular attack.

edit: I must have gotten lucky with cleric beast because i had a significantly easier time with it. I must have gotten to gascoigne beast four or fives times and get annihilated right away (getting there is not so hard, even if i refuse to use the music box)

WTF? I nearly killed Father Gascoigne on my first go and that's without even using my gun (I've barely used the gun so far). Whereas I found Clerical Beast way more difficult.

Cleric Beast was kicking my ass and took me about 10 tries because the shotgun was useless to set up the riposte so I had to time my Molotov Cocktails perfectly. Plus I had to fight the camera too....

Father Gascoigne was a joke in comparison. Music box and shotgun parry/riposte took him down in a little over a minute. He was easier to stun than normal enemies. Took 3 tries.

Overall I'm loving this game. It definitely lives up to the hype.

Yes, same here.

 

[Typhares]

Bloodborne is the first 'Souls' game I ever played and I am wondering if I am playing it 'right'.

Currently I'm 15 hours in, I just beat

Spoiler

Vicar Amelia

and I'm level 40+. I see people here saying they are around level 22 when beating that boss. So I wondered if I'm making the game 'too easy' by leveling up too much/fast. Currently the game is challenging but most fights leave enough room for error. I do want to learn the mechanics properly, so is this the right way to go? Taking future bosses and the soft/hard stat caps into account.

It's not that I'm grinding levels but I'm exploring, learning the mechanics and then cash in the blood echoes. You gain levels quite fast that way.

I'm doing the same thing. I don't see anything wrong with that, you're being rewarded for being thorough.

I still die sometimes, being careless or against bosses of course but it removes the tedium and frustration that some people seem to experience.

It's your choice in the end but for a first time experience I personally enjoy that pace.

 

[BladeSinner]

Alright, second boss just handed my ass to me....there goes ALL my molotov's, half of my blood vials, and all of my hope/conviction/optimism.... I will try again in 30 minutes Man this game is turning my into a glutton for punishment haha

 

[TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared]

I think I've got a glitch of some sort. Some of the smaller wolves (not the werewolves) near the starting area are refusing to die, no matter how many times I hit them.

 

[danowat]

Might try swapping to the pistol, finding the shotie a little laggy with FG's fast beast form combos

 

[WadiumArcadium]

I think I've got a glitch of some sort. Some of the smaller wolves (not the werewolves) near the starting area are refusing to die, no matter how many times I hit them.

You've reached the part of the game where you can't kill enemies anymore. Congrats.

 

[StaffyManasse]

Might try swapping to the pistol, finding the shotie a little laggy with FG's fast beast form combos

Pistol is way faster, I ditched blunderbuss as soon as figured this out. A shame, really 'couse blunderbuss is way cooler.

 

[Qvoth]

Alright, second boss just handed my ass to me....there goes ALL my molotov's, half of my blood vials, and all of my hope/conviction/optimism.... I will try again in 30 minutes Man this game is turning my into a glutton for punishment haha

just farm blood vials again with the starting central yharnam area, shouldn't take long until u get tonnes again
if by 2nd boss you meant father gascoine, find the music box if you're still having trouble

 

[rafaelr]

i helped a friend coop the 3rd boss (

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blood starved beast

) last night. had no idea coop was this much fun, and also makes the boss fight a LOT easier (

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still, managing BSBs poison and health in 2nd and 3rd phase can get quite stressful...don´t even wanna imagine what´s that like alone, especially after i had such a hard time with father G

)
we did it a second time in my world after beating it in his.

 

[danowat]

Pistol is way faster, I ditched blunderbuss as soon as figured this out. A shame, really 'couse blunderbuss is way cooler.

It certainly is, I'll give the pistol a go, is the repeater better than the normal one?, I see it uses 2 bullets instead of one..........

just farm blood vials again with the starting central yharnam area, shouldn't take long until u get tonnes again
if by 2nd boss you meant father gascoine, find the music box if you're still having trouble

Talk to me about the music box, what are it's limitations, it appears to me that excessive use of it before beast mode seems to initiate beast mode early (not good), and once in beast mode I only managed to use it once, if you don't use it till beast mode can you use it more than once?

Also, the co-op mode is frustrating, even after ringing the bell (and wasting an insight), I get no help.

 

[StaffyManasse]

It certainly is, I'll give the pistol a go, is the repeater better than the normal one?, I see it uses 2 bullets instead of one.

I don't know, actually. I used the repeater for a while, but then just went for the normal one because, as you said, repeater uses 2 bullets. I'm not looking to do damage with my gun, just parry, so I went pistol.

 

[TEH-CJ]

When does the EU update come out?

 

[rafaelr]

It certainly is, I'll give the pistol a go, is the repeater better than the normal one?, I see it uses 2 bullets instead of one..........



Talk to me about the music box, what are it's limitations, it appears to me that excessive use of it before beast mode seems to initiate beast mode early (not good), and once in beast mode I only managed to use it once, if you don't use it till beast mode can you use it more than once?

Also, the co-op mode is frustrating, even after ringing the bell (and wasting an insight), I get no help.

iirc, music box can be used 3 times on human Father G, and once when he´s transformed.
yes, it does speed up the transformation so i only used it once, just as/after he transformed into beast.

 

[danowat]

iirc, music box can be used 3 times on human Father G, and once when he´s transformed.
yes, it does speed up the transformation so i only used it once, just as/after he transformed into beast.

Thanks, that was my assumption.

 

[Stereogatari]

Gascoigne slain on my 2nd try, got tense though as I was down to my last blood vial.

Key to winning that is to go up the stairs, do your damage in that open space and/or dodge, drop down then run back up the stairs, rinse and repeat.

 

[PleaseBeGentle_]

Was doing Chalice dungeons till I encountered Pthumarian Descendant. This guy, lol this guy T.T

Have about 30 deaths so far, managed to get him to 5% once. Dunno why, but I just can't consistently stun him so I've tried other approaches as well. All to no avail. Not to mention I keep running out of vials and bullets.

The main game has become a farming run at this point just so I can do some more attempts at his ass

 

[Ferr986]

Bloodborne is the first 'Souls' game I ever played and I am wondering if I am playing it 'right'.

Currently I'm 15 hours in, I just beat

Spoiler

Vicar Amelia

and I'm level 40+. I see people here saying they are around level 22 when beating that boss. So I wondered if I'm making the game 'too easy' by leveling up too much/fast. Currently the game is challenging but most fights leave enough room for error. I do want to learn the mechanics properly, so is this the right way to go? Taking future bosses and the soft/hard stat caps into account.

It's not that I'm grinding levels but I'm exploring, learning the mechanics and then cash in the blood echoes. You gain levels quite fast that way.

I have a friend who was almost 50 there lol
I'll say play they way you want, if you find the game too easy you can use your echoes to buy stuff. If you find the difficulty fine, then go ahead and keep playing at your pace.

 

[Melchiah]

I've only played Demon's Souls briefly, until the Red Eye Knight, and never touched Dark Souls. So, I'm pretty much like a virgin when it comes to Miyazaki's games. The very beginning of Bloodborne was surprisingly easy, but it didn't take long for the same old frustration to arise that I experienced in Demon's Souls. Namely, the repetition of having to go through the same enemies over and over again. However, after I opened a couple of short cuts, learned how to parry with the gun, and how to handle the enemies, the challenge didn't seem that daunting anymore. I've also learned not to cling to the Blood Echoes so much, as I can collect few thousand of them again in no time. I've always loved the audiovisual style and lore of the Souls series, and now that I'm actually playing the game myself I'm loving it even more.

Just beat Father Gascoigne last night, after beating Cleric Beast last week. Both of them took me 4-5 tries. I've collected nearly the maximum amount of Blood Vials, and it's easy to restock ammo, so multiple tries weren't a problem in that regard, like they apparently were to some. Although, I hate going back to Hunter's Dream to restock molotovs, and waiting through the loading screens, as the game doesn't resupply them automatically from the chest after you've died. And I can't say I'm that fond of running back to the boss after each failure. That's the only gripe I have with the game; the boss battles are lengthy, and they can easily kill the player, yet you can't restart the encounters from the near vicinity with all of your supplies replenished from the chest.

A couple of questions...

• Madman's Knowledge
  Should these be used?
  Spoiler

  To my understanding the enemies get harder after a certain insight level is reached.
• Red Jeweled Brooch
  I had this, and
  Spoiler

  gave it to the girl, after reading about the consequences.
  Now I wonder, if that really was the best choice?
• Safe places
  
  Spoiler

  Odeon Chapel or the Clinic; from what I've read, sending people to the former is a better choice,
  but I'd like to know that for sure, as I generally play games through only once, and I want to have the best possible experience.

 

[Typhares]

A couple of questions...

• Madman's Knowledge
  Should these be used?
  Spoiler

  To my understanding the enemies get harder after a certain insight level is reached.
• Red Jeweled Brooch
  I had this, and
  Spoiler

  gave it to the girl, after reading about the consequences.
  Now I wonder, if that really was the best choice?
• Safe places
  
  Spoiler

  Odeon Chapel or the Clinic; from what I've read, sending people to the former is a better choice,
  but I'd like to know that for sure, as I generally play games through only once, and I want to have the best possible experience.

Spoiler

- I use the madman's knowledge, if the game gets harder then it's all good
- It was not the best choice
- How much do you want to get spoiled? Generally it is better to send people to the chapel

 

[Melchiah]

Spoiler

- I use the madman's knowledge, if the game gets harder then it's all good
- It was not the best choice
- How much do you want to get spoiled? Generally it is better to send people to the chapel

- I'm not sure, if that's a positive point for me , but I read somewhere that

Spoiler

a certain monster appears when you reach a certain level,

and I'd like to experience that.

- Damn. I thought you get

Spoiler

to see her again later on, and get another mission, if you give her the Brooch.

- Well, I already know that

Spoiler

the Clinic experiments on its occupants, and sending the beggar to the Chapel isn't advised.

I just wondered if there's something else to know about the latter place?

 

[papercan55]

Bloodborne is the first 'Souls' game I ever played and I am wondering if I am playing it 'right'.

Currently I'm 15 hours in, I just beat

Spoiler

Vicar Amelia

and I'm level 40+. I see people here saying they are around level 22 when beating that boss. So I wondered if I'm making the game 'too easy' by leveling up too much/fast. Currently the game is challenging but most fights leave enough room for error. I do want to learn the mechanics properly, so is this the right way to go? Taking future bosses and the soft/hard stat caps into account.

It's not that I'm grinding levels but I'm exploring, learning the mechanics and then cash in the blood echoes. You gain levels quite fast that way.

I'm in a similar boat.
I'm not grinding but taking my time and exploring every place possible and i think i'm way over levelled.
normal enemies just aren't dangerous anymore, it's only bosses i have trouble with.
I was hoping that this game wouldn't let this happen, especially if you didn't farm for echoes but it seems i've messed up by exploring everywhere and taking my time to learn how to play.
I think i should have just gone full steam ahead and beat the game in 20 hours like others have done, not exploring because otherwise it ruins the difficulty.
Not sure and i wish someone on this board could help explain what's happening.
I loved that when i started the game enemies were dangerous, now they're just a chore and not threatening at all, and i wasn't even grinding at all.
Do all souls players just go through as quick as possible? am i playing the game wrong?

 

[GrizzNKev]

I'm in a similar boat.
I'm not grinding but taking my time and exploring every place possible and i think i'm way over levelled.
normal enemies just aren't dangerous anymore, it's only bosses i have trouble with.
I was hoping that this game wouldn't let this happen, especially if you didn't farm for echoes but it seems i've messed up by exploring everywhere and taking my time to learn how to play.
I think i should have just gone full steam ahead and beat the game in 20 hours like others have done, not exploring because otherwise it ruins the difficulty.
Not sure and i wish someone on this board could help explain what's happening.
I loved that when i started the game enemies were dangerous, now they're just a chore and not threatening at all, and i wasn't even grinding at all.
Do all souls players just go through as quick as possible? am i playing the game wrong?

Your skill as a player is far more important than your level. Perhaps you're not giving yourself enough credit.

 

[Typhares]

- I'm not sure, if that's a positive point for me , but I read somewhere that

Spoiler

a certain monster appears when you reach a certain level,

and I'd like to experience that.

- Damn. I thought you get

Spoiler

to see her again later on, and get another mission, if you give her the Brooch.

- Well, I already know that

Spoiler

the Clinic experiments on its occupants, and sending the beggar to the Chapel isn't advised.

I just wondered if there's something else to know about the latter place?

Spoiler

- I've read that as well, can't confirm yet but I also read that after a certain point in the game you would see the monster regardless

- I think she dies anyway...

- You know about as much as I do then except I have also heard that you can send a church nun to the chapel and she could end up killing the prostitute too

 

[Melchiah]

Spoiler

- I've read that as well, can't confirm yet but I also read that after a certain point in the game you would see the monster regardless

- I think she dies anyway...

- You know about as much as I do then except I have also heard that you can send a church nun to the chapel and she could end up killing the prostitute too

- It would be great, it that happens regardless of the level.

- IIRC, I read that somewhere last night as well, but hopefully there's

Spoiler

another mission coming.

- That's news to me. Good to know. I guess it's better to

Spoiler

leave her out then, in order to get the reward from Arianna's quest.

 

[papercan55]

Your skill as a player is far more important than your level. Perhaps you're not giving yourself enough credit.

Do they later regular enemies get tougher? I'm at level 25 or so and they are too easy at the moment, bosses are very tough at first but fair once you learn their pattern.
Currently it's just too easy to either stagger or sneak up behind and kill them in one hit.
Is there a way to make them harder, crazy to ask but i enjoyed the game more when i first started and they seemed tougher.

I should probably state that i started gaming on a bbc computer in the 80's...maybe that's my problem.
the complaints that this game doesn't hold your hand are crazy, there are notes that explain pretty much everything.

 

[KevinG]

I'm level 20, got the ax fortified once, and packed full with vials. Am I ready for Father G?

Oh and I have the music box.

 

[BladeSinner]

just farm blood vials again with the starting central yharnam area, shouldn't take long until u get tonnes again
if by 2nd boss you meant father gascoine, find the music box if you're still having trouble

Did just that...Farmed enough for 10 Molotov's and 11 blood vials. Might do a final round of farming + getting the music box, and then I should be ready!

 

[Melchiah]

I'm level 20, got the ax fortified once, and packed full with vials. Am I ready for Father G?

Oh and I have the music box.

I used +2 Threaded Cane and molotovs. Didn't have a need for the music box.

Tips:

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Using the gun to parry, followed by a visceral strike, during his first two phases worked well. Molotovs for the final form. It took me four visceral strikes and two molotovs.
EDIT: Run through the stairs to the upper section during the final form, use a molotov when he follows you there. You can escape through the opposing end, and run back there, if need be.

 

[BuzzZaw75]

Like several others...I'm having a problem with Father G. Even though he's killed me 12+ times I'm not giving up or getting upset. I've got him down close to 75% but seems once up close he hits me, I try to get up, hits me again, get up and hits again. Seems like I just cannot get out of his reach.

I've got the Lone Survivor, Level 20 with emphasis are vitality, endurance and strength. My starting weapon is the Sword Cleaver at +2.

I was wondering if I should get the Axe for it's reach, get it to at least +2 and try with it. Father G just pelts me with bullets and I'm trying to heal and get close at the same time. Plus he has that Long Axe as well that has some reach and hits when he does a 360° swing.

One more thing...should I even worry or try the Oil w/Molotov at all or just chunk one or two Molotov's to help out?

Thanks....BuzzZaw82

 

[boredandlazy]

Bloodborne is the first 'Souls' game I ever played and I am wondering if I am playing it 'right'.

Currently I'm 15 hours in, I just beat

Spoiler

Vicar Amelia

and I'm level 40+. I see people here saying they are around level 22 when beating that boss. So I wondered if I'm making the game 'too easy' by leveling up too much/fast. Currently the game is challenging but most fights leave enough room for error. I do want to learn the mechanics properly, so is this the right way to go? Taking future bosses and the soft/hard stat caps into account.

It's not that I'm grinding levels but I'm exploring, learning the mechanics and then cash in the blood echoes. You gain levels quite fast that way.

I beat her at level 53. She was unbelievably easy at that level. I'm currently in the forbidden forest and am level 58.

 

[Augemitbutter]

I think I've got a glitch of some sort. Some of the smaller wolves (not the werewolves) near the starting area are refusing to die, no matter how many times I hit them.

i had the same glitch at the beginning of my game. you have to run away or just leave the area.

 

[StaffyManasse]

Like several others...I'm having a problem with Father G. Even though he's killed me 12+ times I'm not giving up or getting upset. I've got him down close to 75% but seems once up close he hits me, I try to get up, hits me again, get up and hits again. Seems like I just cannot get out of his reach.

I've got the Lone Survivor, Level 20 with emphasis are vitality, endurance and strength. My starting weapon is the Sword Cleaver at +2.

I was wondering if I should get the Axe for it's reach, get it to at least +2 and try with it. Father G just pelts me with bullets and I'm trying to heal and get close at the same time. Plus he has that Long Axe as well that has some reach and hits when he does a 360° swing.

One more thing...should I even worry or try the Oil w/Molotov at all or just chunk one or two Molotov's to help out?

Thanks....BuzzZaw82

There has been various tactics posted, but here's what I did.

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I just fought him on the open and parried his attacks with a gun, and did a viceral attack. I used this same approach on all his "forms", it just took some time to learn his tells, but it's very doable. You don't need many viceral attacks. Maybe 5 or 6.

 

[0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55]

Any advice of character leveling? I'm currently:
19 endurance
18 vitality
21 strength
9 bloodtinge
7 arcane.

I keep thinking I need to beef up arcane and bloodtinge, but their effects on my stats are always less substantial than the other 3. My weapons of choice are Ludwig's sword and the axe.

 

[0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55]

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I was wondering if I should get the Axe for it's reach, get it to at least +2 and try with it. Father G just pelts me with bullets and I'm trying to heal and get close at the same time. Plus he has that Long Axe as well that has some reach and hits when he does a 360° swing.

One more thing...should I even worry or try the Oil w/Molotov at all or just chunk one or two Molotov's to help out?

Thanks....BuzzZaw82

The axe, transformed (2 handed long mode) was great against father G. It has the range to hit him from across tombstones. The charged R2 does a lot of damage. Also, the axe is just generally, an awesome weapon. Great for crowds.

Ive not had too much luck with the oil Molotov combo... Seems its not worth the effort. I'd recommend just chucking a few molotovs.

 

[Outtrigger888]

Also, the co-op mode is frustrating, even after ringing the bell (and wasting an insight), I get no help.

Ring the bell and wait or walk around the area, you will eventually find someone. Just don't enter a boss area.

 

[boredandlazy]

The axe, transformed (2 handed long mode) was great against father G. It has the range to hit him from across tombstones. The charged R2 does a lot of damage. Also, the axe is just generally, an awesome weapon. Great for crowds.

Ive not had too much luck with the oil Molotov combo... Seems its not worth the effort. I'd recommend just chucking a few molotovs.

I'm still using the Hunters Axe. I've never even bothered to change weapon.

 

[Melchiah]

Ive not had too much luck with the oil Molotov combo... Seems its not worth the effort. I'd recommend just chucking a few molotovs.

The combo seemed to work pretty well against the Church Giants.

 

[Raiden]

Lol that fucktard hunter that kept mauling me in old yarnham plunged to his death as he tried to chase me down a ladder. Seems like BB is pretty unforgiving against its own AI as well

 

[Typhares]

Any advice of character leveling? I'm currently:
19 endurance
18 vitality
21 strength
9 bloodtinge
7 arcane.

I keep thinking I need to beef up arcane and bloodtinge, but their effects on my stats are always less substantial than the other 3. My weapons of choice are Ludwig's sword and the axe.

In case you're interested in that:
Stat - Softcap/Hardcap
Vitality ------ 30 / 50
Endurance -- NA / 40
Strength ---- 25 / 50
Skill --------- 25 / 50
Bloodtinge -- 25 / 50
Arcane ------ 25 / 50

What you need to be aware of:
Arcane scaling on something like ludwig is only taken into account if you put an arcane gem on it like fire.
After which all the damage done by the sword becomes fire and only the arcane scaling matters
Arcane is useful to use spells of course.

Apart from that I'm in the same boat except I went the skill route, I have decided to pump at least 16 in STR too now to use ludwig but after that I don't know if I go full balance between STR and SKL or try to reach the SKL hardcap.

 

[Melchiah]

What you need to be aware of:
Arcane scaling on something like ludwig is only taken into account if you put an arcane gem on it like fire.
After which all the damage done by the sword becomes fire and only the arcane scaling matters
Arcane is useful to use spells of course.

Apart from that I'm in the same boat except I went the skill route, I have decided to pump at least 16 in STR too now to use ludwig but after that I don't know if I go full balance between STR and SKL or try to reach the SKL hardcap.

So, if I put a gem on the Threaded Cane the skill point becomes irrelevant?

 

[Typhares]

So, if I put a gem on the Threaded Cane the skill point becomes irrelevant?

Yes if that gem convert the damage to fire or bolt. You can see it on the stat screen of the weapon when slotting arcane gems all the damage will now be on the arcane line.

 

[Traffcore]

Hi guys!
So I just beat

Spoiler

Vicar and the Witch boss.

I have cleared anything up to this point and I don't really know where to go next?

 

[Typhares]

Hi guys!
So I just beat

Spoiler

Vicar and the Witch boss.

I have cleared anything up to this point and I don't really know where to go next?

That's where I am too But I know where to go:

Spoiler

Have you found a door for which you needed a password? You have the password now.

 

[Traffcore]

That's where I am too But I know where to go:

Spoiler

Have you found a door for which you needed a password? You have the password now.

Thanks. I know where the door is. Here we go!

 

[Rollo Tomasi]

who/what is BSB?

Backstreet Boys...

Seriously though, I am stuck on that bastard and it has put a damper on my desire to keep playing. Gonna level up my vitality a few levels and try again after work tonight. It really sucks running out of Molotovs and Antidotes but I guess that is what farming is for right? I also need to make sure I'm not burning through my Blood Vials so quickly.

 

[bosseye]

I was stumped at Father G for maybe 3 attempts, then had a strategy on the 4th but failed because I'm rubbish, got him on the 5th.

There is a really easy way to down him, although it requires a long weapon - I used the starting axe in two handed form, so:

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From the fog gate just run straight ahead to the very first cluster of gravestones and circle the opposite way to whichever side Father G comes from. You might have to dodge here, but the idea is to get the gravestones between you and Father G. Lock on with R3 and thats basically the steup. You can hit him through the gravestones with a Charge attack and knock him on his bum every time. The gravestones stop his bullets more often than not and when he switches to a two handed axe attack as well his attacks are well telegraphed and there is a large opening after he swings and misses for you to hit him with your own charge attack. If he starts coming round to your side, just go around the other side.

You can take his health right down to the Beast form trigger really easily this way. Once he hits beast form, chuck 2 or 3 molotovs at him for big fire damage. Job done.

Honestly, if I can do it, it will be easy peasy for some of you.

 

[BladeSinner]

Slight update. I beat that MOTHER F*%^*$ER Father Gascoigne! Took me farming to 20 blood vials and 10 molotovs, and 5 more tries, but I finally got him. The problem I was encountering the most I think was being too frantic, which often caused me to get "stuck" between corners, and the boss, which, well is a recipe for "YOU DIED" over and over and over

 

[Melchiah]

Yes if that gem convert the damage to fire or bolt. You can see it on the stat screen of the weapon when slotting arcane gems all the damage will now be on the arcane line.

That's good to know, as my skill level is far higher than the arcane (17 vs. 8), so I need to see which offers more benefits.

 

[grounded_dreams]

I'm upto the BSB boss, there was a note stating I could summon help. If I summon the NPC which I met earlier in this area to help me will that cost my an Insight point to take on the boss?