Or they are channel-stuffed and want to clear the deck for the season bundles.
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May 2016 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes June 7th
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Or they are channel-stuffed and want to clear the deck for the season bundles.
Hydrargyrus
Member
[PS4] 240K
[XB1] 150K
[3DS] 85K
[WIU] 32K
[XB1] 150K
[3DS] 85K
[WIU] 32K
Welfare
Member
Xbox One now $299 http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/consoles?xr=shellnav
Interesting timing to say the least.
I think it reinforces the idea that a slim is going to be announced at E3, probably same price, replacing the regular XB1.
Doubt that it'll pressure Sony into advancing their own price drop (which I was seeing at E3, while possibly introducing the $399 Neo 4k), but we'll see
I think it reinforces the idea that a slim is going to be announced at E3, probably same price, replacing the regular XB1.
Doubt that it'll pressure Sony into advancing their own price drop (which I was seeing at E3, while possibly introducing the $399 Neo 4k), but we'll see
Welfare
Member
Interesting timing to say the least.
I think it reinforces the idea that a slim is going to be announced at E3, probably same price, replacing the regular XB1.
Doubt that it'll pressure Sony into advancing their own price drop (which I was seeing at E3, while possibly introducing the $399 Neo 4k), but we'll see
Sony will probably drop to $299 right before PSVR launches. They don't need to drop it again so soon.
demigod
Member
Fixed for you. A bit strange to announce a price drop before E3.
CosmicQueso
Member
Why?
Doing it at E3 just risks the word being drowned out by the rest of the conference. Espeically if you're not certain what the competition will do or announce.
DomsPlaying
Member
Hardware:
[XB1] 150K
[PS4] 190K
[WIU] 40K
[3DS] 65K
With respect to software:
DS3, Overwatch, Uncharted 4 & The Division in Top 5.
Ratchet, DOOM in 5-7 range.
Battleborn and Quantum Break, outside Top 10.
GTAV within Top 10 as usual ;-)
[XB1] 150K
[PS4] 190K
[WIU] 40K
[3DS] 65K
With respect to software:
DS3, Overwatch, Uncharted 4 & The Division in Top 5.
Ratchet, DOOM in 5-7 range.
Battleborn and Quantum Break, outside Top 10.
GTAV within Top 10 as usual ;-)
#shrug
It's possible, but in term of market saturation they know they are well overdue for a full $100 drop (compared to the launch price), and they probably don't see why they should let some price-based sales go to their competitor during the summer when kids/ students have so much free time.
Also, the PSVR launch will imo be a hardware event of its own, and a price drop on the main console would be lost in terms of marketing spotlight, when it deserves a focus of its own.
It just seems to me that E3 makes a lot of sense, but we shall see
spatenfloot
Member
No way! I want them to still be around when this holiday's bundles come out. That way stores can build forts from all the unique bundles.
slavesnyder
Member
You don't think it's possible to deflate this coffin?
Omnistalgic
Member
you know, I wouldn't mind a PS4 mini and PS4K option this year. If Sony are going to try iterative console, I say go all in. PS4 is the standard, PS4 mini is a "cut-corner" version, and PS4K is a premium. I would trade up to a PS4K and get a "mini" as the second unit in my house.
I dunno, I think it could work, whatever gets PS4 down to the $199 price-point is the best way for it to get close to PS2 numbers.
I dunno, I think it could work, whatever gets PS4 down to the $199 price-point is the best way for it to get close to PS2 numbers.
CosmicQueso
Member
Would take a lot of Big Macs to do that.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Mass Effect
Member
Edson making ridiculous posts again? Shocking.
People are speculating they're clearing stock for the Slim in that Xbox price drop thread. Seems plausible, no?
People are speculating they're clearing stock for the Slim in that Xbox price drop thread. Seems plausible, no?
Unknown?
Member
Sure but it's more plausible that, just like Jan 2015 after the holiday sale, sells were tanking and they had to keep price down to even compete. Even at $299 they weren't exactly doing well and bringing it back up would just give more sells to PS4. So far they're down yoy while Sony is up yoy. Probably something they are discussing a lot at Microsoft.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
No.
Because there is no slim.
There is an Xbox TV, a streaming stick and an Xbox one:2 releasing next year.
People got so caught up in the original thread, they didn't listen to the podcast properly.
The hell kind of coffin that would require inflation/deflation?
slavesnyder
Member
Happy meals served
Okay, that was a broken metaphor. On the other hand, if they work on inflatable space ship modules - why not.
ethomaz
Banned
Xbox One Slim <> Xbox Mini
I'm confident MS will show a Xbox One revision this E3... smaller with same power.
Mass Effect
Member
I mean we don't know that, but I'm not entirely convinced that the reason for the price drop is to clear stock for a Slim. I think it's probably just because the Xbox is doing poorly and this official price drop gives them more room to go down even further (as in $299 + free game and/or gift card).
Either way, we'll know in 2 weeks.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
It would make no sense. There is no need for a revision if the base model is going to be supplanted next year.
The main customers for a revision are people upgrading their consoles. To put a slim on the market jeopardises these people upgrading to a Scorpio next year.
Also, it's also been heavily rumoured that one of the reasons for both these midcycle upgrades is that they cost Sony just as much as a slim would, removing any cost reduction a slim model would normally have. With Microsoft having a much more exotic architecture in comparison, I would only imagine the same would apply.
You can bookmark this post. There will not be an Xbox slim shown at E3. Only an apple TV like device.
slavesnyder
Member
Disagree. A slim would make sense, even alongside the scorpio.
Give people a cheaper option, make money on subscriptions, services and games.
Save space on shelves and transport.
Save money on parts used.
There will be a slim and E3 is a good moment to show it.
The TV box / USB stick idea is rubbish anyway.
ethomaz
Banned
Scorpion won't replace Xbox One.
Both will be sold with support to the same games.
Scorpio is not a new generation... is a stop gap like PS4k.
In both sides you will have a cheaper SKU ($200-299) and a power SKU ($400-499).
PS4 will receive a cheaper Slim version too.
For a second there, I thought you were setting me up for a 'burial at sea' joke.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Nobody said it was. But the primary customer for Scorpio is going to be people already invested in the XBO ecosystem. It's going to be a premium SKU so it's not going to be aimed at people who haven't jumped in this generation, or already own PS4s.
It would be foolish to give that crowd a new product and then say "actually this is the new hotness, right here"
There isn't going to be a PS4 slim either. Neo is your slim.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Your filtering this through the lens of a console gamer. Live subs and services are taken care of with opening Xbox to be part of windows 10.
The cheaper option will be the vanilla XBO in bundle after bundle because that's what's been working so far.
slavesnyder
Member
Since Edson's id joke I retired.
I don't get it. I gave good reasons from logistic and business standpoints and you are saying i am wearing gamer lenses.
If you say that pulling the plug on Xbox as a whole would be reasonable for MS... I'm in.
But if they want to keep the console business, a slim is just logical. Imagine we get a ps4 slim and xbox keeps it's size. That wouldn't be vanilla but godzilla.
Dash_Riprock
Member
After this price cut announcement, methinks the gap this month is gonna be big.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
You arent getting either, for reasons I've already mentioned above. But I'm no insider and we will find out for certain in 2 weeks.
As for the gamer thing, I'm just pointing out that everything Microsoft does now with Xbox cannot be see as a decision for Xbox alone but windows 10 as an ecosystem. That's what they are moving towards. The same streaming stick/micro console thing seem stupid from a gamer point of view, but we arent the market for those products.
slavesnyder
Member
Okay, finally got it. I see the focus on Win10, too, so I still cannot believe that there will be a Scorpio. An XboxOne small still sounds obvious (would you like a small avatar bet?)
So let's be excited and see what's happening at the E3 Windows10 conference.
spatenfloot
Member
Why would it be any different from the other months with price cuts?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I guess that's the done thing around here...why not?
I think the MS conference is going to be very interesting from that point of view.
In particular the words used by Spencer as "share our Story", which implies the evolution of a whole narative behind their choices, which would further imply some possible big changes finally revealed/ made clear.
Which is why I think that Scorpio will in a way be a big "break", being their first full on Win10 HTPC with Xbox brand, playing native PC Windows store games (and possibly no optical drive), "big" gpu power at $499+ (and VR capable). I imagine they would keep the XB1 as the "entry level" Xbox with Win10 UWAp console/ TV box.
If confirmed, the new Xbox tv box and stick would also make sense as an "ecosystem" that would -eventually- revolve around the Scorpio and/or any powerful multimedia capable Win10 PC.
But maybe I read too much into things
The Mad Draklor
Member
It could be that Microsoft is trying to clear stock, but the stock isn't clearing out at a fast enough pace hence the pricecut and all these "too good to be true" deals.
KinofChaos
Banned
Edson banned? NOOOO, I wanted to see his responses after NPD and e3 .
.slavesnyder
Member
Proposal:
Slim XboxOne model shown at E3 - I win
No Slim XboxOne model shown at E3 - You win
Price/punishment: 1 month of avatar occupation. No vore.
Deal?
P.S.: XboxOne model does mean hardware revision with comparable specs to vanilla. Not booth babes.
Welfare
Member
On Gamestops's website, it's while supplies last.
This is now clearly a stock wiping movement.
slavesnyder
Member
Hush
Welfare
Member
Actually, when were most 1TB bundles cut to $369? That's what the original price is showing on the Xbox website.
CosmicQueso
Member
It's too bad banned people have their avatars removed. I've been told mine could use a refresh and was just going to steal Edson's. Oh well.
EDIT: The extent of my photo editing skeelz. Thanks MS Paint!
EDIT: The extent of my photo editing skeelz. Thanks MS Paint!
slavesnyder
Member
It's like one of these horror stories of that guy who had a severe accident and gets a transplantation with body parts from an executed madman.
Take care, queso.