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[longdi]

You're right I forgot about DLSS and even then 3080 only gets 45 fps with RT on ultra. Omg XsX is a Monster !

DLSS is beehive knees etc etc

XSX is indeed a monster of a console.
Getting 2080Ti like performance, imo is good news for gamers.

 

[JerryinSoCal]

if you were smart you would know how much detail can be stripped out if you render an already rendered video (XSX RT video) especially if you reupload to youtube
so its not a fair comparison even because if I head into the original video of the XSX the image will definitly be sharper.

Also, just wait until digital foundry vid.

Lower video quality doesn't remove reflections, people shouldn't be offended by this because there is no way a console is going to compete with a high end card 1 to 1 and it shouldn't be expected to.

 

[MightySquirrel]

DLSS has strangely very few effect on this game performance though according to performance thread. Someone said only 4 fps.

Game runs so much better at Very High preset and looks around the same as ultra. 106 fps at 2560 x 1440 very high preset . Its pointless to do comparisons before console even launched, but rumor is XsX runs the game at ~ 2560 x 1440 res. They just need something silmilar to DLSS.

 

[MightySquirrel]

DLSS is beehive knees etc etc

XSX is indeed a monster of a console.
Getting 2080Ti like performance, imo is good news for gamers.

Its a shame PS5 is so much slower ~3060 or currently available 2070s.

 

[MaximusPayne]

...a $500 box OP....$500

 

[rnlval]

DLSS is beehive knees etc etc

XSX is indeed a monster of a console.
Getting 2080Ti like performance, imo is good news for gamers.

For XSX, Minecraft RT indicates otherwise.

Not all SRAM cache is designed the same when BiG NAVI's 128MB Infinity Cache was based on Zen 2's L3 cache.

XBO's 32MB eSRAM was pretty stupid i.e. was NOT transparent for games that need to be software programming targeted.

 

[Kagey K]

Embarrassing performance by Xbox, they might as well pack it up and go home. Preorder canceled.

 

[SlimySnake]

This is a troll thread.

 

[Krisprolls]

Its a shame PS5 is so much slower ~3060 or currently available 2070s.

PS5 performance will be roughly the same as XSX. The bar hasn't be set too high apparently.

 

[nemiroff]

Demolished.. For a 500 dollar console with an AMD APU it looks pretty good to me.

 

[Krisprolls]

Embarrassing performance by Xbox, they might as well pack it up and go home. Preorder canceled.

Not embarrassing in any way, and the game looks bad on any platform actually outside of the environments. Art direction is just not good.

But when you hype your product through the roof like MS did, you set people up for disappointment when it doesn't deliver that much.

 

[01011001]

Prove this is in fact the day one patched version.

it most likely is not but it obviously has raytracing active! settings aren't going to chage!

 

[iJudged]

considering, this is impressive. OP lol wat u sayin booboo?

 

[Spokker]

Seems like diminishing returns with the ray tracing. Screenspace for life.

 

[existensmaximum]

Just wait for all the XSX exclusives, built from the ground up, optimized and coded to the metal for the XSX and the XSX only! Then you'll see what this machine is truly capable of!

Oh.. Wait...

 

[Proelite]

considering, this is impressive. OP lol wat u sayin booboo?

I'm busy moving goal posts.

/s

Getting close to 3080 level ray tracing on console, first try, without DLSS bodes really well for AMD.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Honestly the graphical difference is more pronounced than I'd have expected this early in the new gen. So glad I opted out of consoles and went for a new PC.

 

[bitbydeath]

Op posts bait thread and runs off. Seems legit. I guess he's one of those that claimed the ps5 is equal to a 3080. He's going to be very disappointed.

The opposite. He’s a member of the infamous Xbox discord and is one of the biggest Xbox fans on the internet.

 

[onesvenus]

Some actually did:

I anyways forget there's a lot of crazy people in this world

Not sure if any Raytracing in the XSX footage or just baked SSR

What's "baked SSR"? There's no way to precompute SSR unless you are talking about using a cube map to fake reflections and calling that SSR which is wrong.

And as always with you, please stop posting FUD. The watchdog legions trailer, confirmed to be running on XSX, is showing off-screen reflected objects on cars and buildings for example. Can you explain how can that be done using SSR?

This constant need to defend everybody's console of choice while bashing the other one doing empty claims it's killing this forum

 

[-Arcadia-]

These rainy night reflections make me think about how amazing GT7 rain tracks at night with ray tracing are going to probably look.

 

[Black_Stride]

Not sure if any Raytracing in the XSX footage or just baked SSR, probably a patch will have it:

Baked SSR?

So you get all the disadvantages of Cubemaps/CaptureProbes/Planar Reflections but also all the disadvantages of Screen Space Reflections.....and literally none of the benefits?

Who the fuck would do that?


I take it you meant some other technique?
How would you even do that, you would need to have someone capture every single view the camera could possibly have including every single person/car/thing at which point just using an actual cubemap or captureprobe makes more sense.

 

[KRYPT83]

Lower resolution, medium / high RT preset instead of ultra.

Barely 2080 TI level.

But on XSX it's running at 1440p in night scenes with RT as per pixel counters. So not at 2080Ti levels at all.

series x

 

[sinnergy]

DF said almost a year ago , the XSX was a 2080 - 2080TI, I call these RT results early in the generation impressive.

 

[Elias]

DF said almost a year ago , the XSX was a 2080 - 2080TI, I call these RT results early in the generation impressive.

And Dictator said the PS5 was 2060 level.

 

[acm2000]

Going by the resolution and frame rate the XSX is 2070/2070 Super range not 2080ti, this is of course using a ubisoft open world game as a benchmark which is ridiculous in its own right tho.

Expect ps5 to be very similar.

 

[Elias]

Going by the resolution and frame rate the XSX is 2070/2070 Super range not 2080ti, this is of course using a ubisoft open world game as a benchmark which is ridiculous in its own right tho.

Expect ps5 to be very similar.

Nah, it's 2080 level. You are not getting this performance out of a 2070.

 

[intheinbetween]

Ok, cool comparison, I didn’t expect otherwise. Now bring me a XsX vs PS5 one please

 

[sinnergy]

And Dictator said the PS5 was 2060 level.

I would put PS5 2070 range .

 

[longdi]

Nah, it's 2080 level. You are not getting this performance out of a 2070.

XSX with heavy RT effects = 2080 level
XSX with med RT effects = 2080Ti level

 

[BlueXImpulse]

series x

Posting Blue Nugroho unironically. Laughable.

And Dictator said the PS5 was 2060 level.

And you believed him.

 

[ZywyPL]

They look pretty much on par IMO, just yet another example of how pointless Ultra settings are.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Yep, XsX performs at 2080 level.

Just wait for all the XSX exclusives, built from the ground up, optimized and coded to the metal for the XSX and the XSX only! Then you'll see what this machine is truly capable of!

Oh.. Wait...

Did you even watch the video? The XsX comes out of this comparison very favourably.

What an embarrassing post.

 

[longdi]

I hope Amd super resolution tech on its hardware ML can push XSX closer to 2080Ti(or edge past 2080S) with RT.

Nvidia performance strengthens are still RT and DLSS2.0.

If we stick to traditional rasterization with sprinkle of RT, XSX should compare favorable to 2080Ti/S.

We may see XSX games with performance mode (aka RT off), running just as well.

 

[IShowUBasics]

memetracing cant die fast enough. Artificial adding glossy surfaces and puddles everywhere to see reflexions of things that are already on the screen is such a waste of hardware and looks totally out of place. I have never seen a puddle reflect anything in reallife. I know its the latest nvidia gimmick and thats why everyone hypes it up because nvidia told them so.

 

[Pallas]

Proelite

 

[TonyK]

Better on PC, but playing it would look the same. Actual fake reflections are enough for me, so imagine that tiny difference.

Use RT for global illumination or something meaningful, and stop wasting resources in damn puddles reflections.

And that goes for both consoles. I can't imagine the precious resources it eats to have RT reflections on Clank's metal surface. Something indistinguishable from fake reflections during gameplay.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

series x

Ah, I love these compressions showing heavily compressed GIF files with 240p resolution and different weather condition in the game.

Game on consoles will look fine and good enough for most people.

 

[existensmaximum]

Yep, XsX performs at 2080 level.



Did you even watch the video? The XsX comes out of this comparison very favourably.

What an embarrassing post.

Wait, you think this game looks.. good? I was very vague though - I'm not referring to the performance comparison per se, of course the XSX delivers a lot of bang for the buck, but in terms of games that actually look impressive and push the hardware like only exclusives can do? Nope.

 

[Trimesh]

Maybe it's just me - but honestly the more of this ray traced shit I see the less I can bring myself to care about it.

I was running a 1080 for a long time, but when one of my friends got a 3080 he lent me his old card (original launch model RTX2080) - I've been replaying some of the stuff I originally played on the 1080 and I'm deeply unimpressed. The biggest difference is on "RTX enhanced" games like Control - but that seems to be mostly because the graphics are gimped to fuck with RTX turned off compared to what some other titles have managed without using RT.

I'm getting a very strong "3D TV" vibe off this - it's technology that the vendors want to sell to you, but which actually provides minimal advantages to the user while adding cost and complexity.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Wait, you think this game looks.. good? I was very vague though - I'm not referring to the performance comparison per se, of course the XSX delivers a lot of bang for the buck, but in terms of games that actually look impressive and push the hardware like only exclusives can do? Nope.

Oh so you were not only trolling, you were off topic. Good to know.

How the game looks to you is irrelevant, this is comparing the Series X performance to a more powerful and more expensive GPU and it comes out very favourably against at it.

 

[alucard0712_rus]

500 dollar box vs 700 dollar gfx card?

Why people keep saying this shit?
If XSX is 2080Ti levels it's comparable to RTX3070, and it's $500.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Why people keep saying this shit?
If XSX is 2080Ti levels it's comparable to RTX3070, and it's $500.

Because the video in the OP is comparing the Series X to an RTX3080.

 

[Ic3man]

Looks good for a $500 console, obviously can't compare with a RTX 3080

 

[Bernd Lauert]

memetracing cant die fast enough. Artificial adding glossy surfaces and puddles everywhere to see reflexions of things that are already on the screen is such a waste of hardware and looks totally out of place. I have never seen a puddle reflect anything in reallife. I know its the latest nvidia gimmick and thats why everyone hypes it up because nvidia told them so.

Well you're out of luck, because raytracing is the future.

 

[martino]

Some actually did:

ramdom tweets always deliver ...

 

[alucard0712_rus]

Because the video in the OP is comparing the Series X to an RTX3080.

Comparing? Where is framerate? Did he use DLSS?

 

[existensmaximum]

Oh so you were not only trolling, you were off topic. Good to know.

How the game looks to you is irrelevant, this is comparing the Series X performance to a more powerful and more expensive GPU and it comes out very favourably against at it.

I'm pointing out the hugely wasted potential with this box. But you're absolutely right - I am off topic here. I'll go complain somewhere else!

 

[longdi]

XSX is probably ~25% behind 6800. (XSX runs 4K with ultra effects at 60fps)
Which puts it against 2080Ti, in a traditional engine, of course

 

[Elias]

This bodes EXTREMELY well for the ne rx 6000 gpus. They probably will pretty decent for ray tracing, I think.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Comparing? Where is framerate? Did he use DLSS?

"It isn't a comparison unless it meets my exacting standards"

Ok

you're absolutely right - I am off topic here. I'll go complain somewhere else!

Judging by your post history, that was your plan all along.