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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It's lithium ion. It will die.. one controller in 15 years. Other in 2... it's a bit of a luck when it comes to these cells.
GHG
Member
Oh don't worry, I'm fully aware. The end result will be orders of magnitude worse than dieselgate.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Dude don't science fiction me with this shit.
I make 30k a year lol. I live in Poland.
I drive 2008 hyundai 1.6liters
edit: but honestly, that's great.
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nominedomine
Banned
If in 10 years you don't need to open your controller to do some repairs, you ain't even using it. By then you should be comfortable changing the rechargeable battery if it gives up. Way better than spending hundreds of dollars buying AA batteries over 10 years.
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GHG
Member
Who is forcing you to replace the entire controller though?
Do you move house every time something in your home needs replacing?
coffinbirth
Member
You have a 10 year old DS3 that holds a charge longer than an hour? Impressive.
squarealex
Member
drop your phone dude
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
sure. i will do that. I already had to open my dualsense since 2nd returnal boss broke my Right trigger. super easy.
But there are no official batteries sold!
Topher
Gold Member
I've been looking to do that recently. Would love to be entirely off the grid. I'd buy a Tesla in a heartbeat. Imagine never buying gas again. That's the dream....
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Thank you for this valuable input.
Pack it in boys. His controller never died
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
i agree... but like, this isn't threadworthy
personally i think we should leave a solid state battery in every controller to increase battery life and be done with this bullshit.
- They don't degrade as quickly as lithium ion
- They charge fast and stay charged for way longer, they don't die after hours, more like days
- They don't fucking explode
Bam, battery issue fixed
personally i think we should leave a solid state battery in every controller to increase battery life and be done with this bullshit.
- They don't degrade as quickly as lithium ion
- They charge fast and stay charged for way longer, they don't die after hours, more like days
- They don't fucking explode
Bam, battery issue fixed
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
There are much less worthy threads.... there is nothing else to talk about. Gaming is almost dead or dying. or at least super dry season.. for past 2 years.
tmlDan
Member
Just over an hour
i think it goes for 3 hours...which is fine - i don't have 8 hour sessions like some people lol
baphomet
Member
Thank you for the dumbass thread
coffinbirth
Member
Hyperbole.
A set of eneloops will last just as long, if not longer than a battery pack and doesn't cost "hundreds of dollars" They are $20.
I still have a set from the 360 days going strong.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JHKSL28/?tag=neogaf0e-20
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
you are welcome
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
The most expensive part of getting totally off the grid is storing the energy
Several people I know down here in Florida only have panels to power their home through the day and do not store it and rely on the grid once the sun goes down
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
It is true there are no cons to using batteries, however there are some pros you won't get by using them. Ps4 Pro.
The most important benefit is that it removes attachment to a device like a hoarder. Many people keep outdated things around for years or even decades because they think they are better, or they have nostalgia and don't want to let go. But once your controller permanently dies, then you won't have any way to play your console and you will HAVE to upgrade to the best and latest.
Xbox is the only thing keeping batteries alive, batteries would have went the way of the Commodore if it wasn't for Microsofts greedy strategy with the battery manufacturers, Microsoft forces people to use AA batteries in their controllers, and Duracell and Energizer will lie and say you need batteries for portable electronics, toys, and flashlights when you don't. You can easily replace those with circuit boards or Lithion.
The battery industry is foul, every year, 10 Ecco the Dolphins die due to the waste of battery acid in our Atlantic oceans. Several children in Asia drink that water every year, Microsoft has been responsible for millions of deaths. it's all in the report from the company that compiled the data, and it would be wise to follow their advice.
The most important benefit is that it removes attachment to a device like a hoarder. Many people keep outdated things around for years or even decades because they think they are better, or they have nostalgia and don't want to let go. But once your controller permanently dies, then you won't have any way to play your console and you will HAVE to upgrade to the best and latest.
Xbox is the only thing keeping batteries alive, batteries would have went the way of the Commodore if it wasn't for Microsofts greedy strategy with the battery manufacturers, Microsoft forces people to use AA batteries in their controllers, and Duracell and Energizer will lie and say you need batteries for portable electronics, toys, and flashlights when you don't. You can easily replace those with circuit boards or Lithion.
The battery industry is foul, every year, 10 Ecco the Dolphins die due to the waste of battery acid in our Atlantic oceans. Several children in Asia drink that water every year, Microsoft has been responsible for millions of deaths. it's all in the report from the company that compiled the data, and it would be wise to follow their advice.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Have you seen how difficult modern controllers are to take apart? When your batteries have a significantly shorter life span controllers with battery compartments have a much easier time getting fresh batteries than ones where the batteries are built in. This is a fact. I shouldn't have to take a controller apart to replace the batteries.
nominedomine
Banned
So you are assuming an investment into rechargeable batteries to make up for the rechargeable battery that didn't come with the controller? Terrible deal.
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coffinbirth
Member
An hour of my time taking apart a controller is worth far more than $20, but we all have our own self worth, eh?
Topher
Gold Member
Definitely want a powerwall if I'm going to go to all the trouble.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
yes. Phones used to have swappable batteries. The rush to make everything as impossibly thin as possible has removed them entirely. It's dumb but that's just how it is
i can go on for hours and hours about the shittons of features phones have removed either thanks to the chase of becoming thinner, or Apple's shitty decisions reverbating across the entire smartphone industry. Don't set me off
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ReBurn
Gold Member
I've replaced batteries in my PS3 controllers and it was no big deal. It seems harder to recycle dead ones than acquire and install new ones. I thought replacing thumbsticks on a DS4 would be easy after watching a few TronicsFix videos. I ended up having to buy a new controller.
I very much prefer controllers that I can put rechargeable batteries into. I think it's the most consumer friendly approach. It is awesome for wireless mice and keyboards and I think it should be an option for all wireless controllers.
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El Muerto
Member
What's cool with the Xbox is if my controller dies while gaming, i can just slap new batteries in. With PlayStation I would have to have a 2nd controller charged when the first one runs out power, or use a long usb cable. Then long term, internal batteries will explode at some point causing a fire, meanwhile AAs just leak if you are using cheap batteries.
Mozza
Member
Or consumer even.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
This is as relevant as people arguing about physical copies of games.
nominedomine
Banned
If you add up all the time you waste charging your AA batteries it will amount to more than the few minutes it would take for a minimally skilled person to change the internal battery on the DS.
The reality is people don't like AA batteries and they don't want to deal with them, it's 2022 not 1992.
You also think that headsets not having AA batteries is anti-consumer? Wake up.
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GHG
Member
They really aren't unless you're incapable of following a step by step tutorial on YouTube. But then this isn't surprising coming from someone who stated the PS5 SSD solution was going to be too complicated for consumers despite it only requiring a screwdriver and a couple of minutes.
I'll take only having to take a controller apart once every ~5-7 years after the battery degrades (if I'm even still using the same controller after that amount of time, unlikely) rather than have to faff about with AA batteries and compartments every other day.
It's 2022, get with the programme.
Apple weren't the ones at fault here. There are also a plethora of other reasons why modern phones aren't designed with user replaceable batteries in mind but if you want to go back to brick status phones with no IP rating, wireless or fast charging then there are still options available for you even today.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Powerwall is so clean, we have 3 on our house down here in Fl good choice
coffinbirth
Member
oldergamer
Member
fully agree, but there are some here that will argue for internal batteries. Personally I prefer the flexibility the battery door offers.
StealthGoblin
Banned
It doesn’t bother me as I don’t play for more than 2-3 hours at a time. I’ve got kids, a job and other hobbies. Internal has always been best for me.
sendit
Member
Overall, I am in agreement with this thread. Internal batteries are anti-consumer, anti-friendly, anti-environment, and anti-choice. I've made a list of consumer devices to avoid to help everyone cope with these findings and hopefully drive change as we move forward towards the double A/triple A revolution.
- Cell phones
- Stick with this double A friendly phone.
- Laptops
- Electric Vehicles
- DualSense/DualShock
- Xbox Elite Pro Gamepad
- Nintendo Switch/Lite/Pro
- Tablets
- Smartwatches
- Learn to count your steps manually. It takes practice, but is achievable. If you can dream it, you can do it.
- Airpods (or wireless earphones of choice)
nominedomine
Banned
Paywall for online, horse armor, paywall for apps, charging for F2P... no, we draw the line at the lack of AA batteries.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
I bought a second PS3 when the super slim was end of life. The Dualshock 3 that came with it is basically still in as new condition and whenever I charge it it lasts for weeks.
It sucks when the battery starts to swell up, but being honest the device itself will become obsolete before the battery will no longer hold a charge.
The one in my Dell Inspiron laptop is internal, but it's easy enough to replace but you lose the ability to hot swap. I guess that's more of an enterprise feature for their Latitude laptops.
The one in my Dell Inspiron laptop is internal, but it's easy enough to replace but you lose the ability to hot swap. I guess that's more of an enterprise feature for their Latitude laptops.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
I’m sure Sony and a few others have 5000/6000 mah batteries now.Wish my phone used AA batteries, or I had this:
nominedomine
Banned
Sony going for that 10 years+ long con.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Physical copies is important but similar topic. Digital only on console is taking away choice, pricing, ownership… everything really.
I will buy physical games as long as the disc version is playable. Just for principle and because there were many examples where digital versions had stuff like music removed or delisted etc
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't have any issues with internal but options are always good
