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[RCU005]

The only way I was able to play Final Fantasy 15 when it came out was through remote play using my Mac. I was at the same house as my PS4, but it worked very good and never had an issue. I also didn’t have a very fast internet connection (like 30Mbps).

However, I still think this device is weird. We have PC, Macs, Tablets and Phones to use remote play. You can still use a Dualsense, so why make a dedicated device?

 

[64bitmodels]

Considering that this thing by itself is meant to go with the PS5 the basic price isn't even 200 dollars as much as it is 600 in the same way that a PSVR2 without a PS5 is basically 900 dollars.

So if we're talking that way, you might as well get a Steam Deck or ROG Ally.

 

[TGO]

It's about £50 too much in the UK

 

[MisterXDTV]

Considering that this thing by itself is meant to go with the PS5 the basic price isn't even 200 dollars as much as it is 600 in the same way that a PSVR2 without a PS5 is basically 900 dollars.

So if we're talking that way, you might as well get a Steam Deck or ROG Ally.

Nobody is buying a PS5 specifically to play on this thing....

This is for people that already have one and want to add convenient remote play on a handheld dedicated device

 

[Sleepwalker]

With DualSense being $70(?) MSRB, and a screen being around $50(?) of the shelf, maybe a more sensible price would be ~120 bucks..?

The dualsense cost sony around $30 to produce IIRC. This type of bottom tier LCD screen will also be cheap when bought wholesale.

 

[G-Bus]

All the folks questioning this can't seem to grasp that not everyone has a secondary device for remote play outside of a phone, which is far from ideal.

Assuming this will retail $250 cdn...

Ah. I want it but holy crap they priced this right where id be on the fence about it.

Wonder what the battery life is like.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Why can't you use it anywhere on earth ? I used to play my PS3 through my PSVITA when I was traveling...

You can.

It's called hot-spot on your phone

 

[Schmendrick]

200 bucks for a DS with a cheap LCD screen strapped to it. And it can`t even be used for Sony`s own streaming services....

What a bad joke.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Beginning to feel like people were going to bitch about this no matter what.

this thing has turned out to be exactly what some of us thought and said it was going to be. A $200 peripheral. If a $200 DS edge can be justified then a $200 DSP can too. The thing comes with a screen and allows you to play your PS anywhere that has a Wi-Fi connection.

I don't know what people expected it to be, and I don't expect it to sell any more than an optional controller would.

And I am calling it now, in the next year or so expect Sony to announce some sort of streaming service that allows you to play everything that is on PS+ extra and up in addition to games you have installed on your PS console on this thing. Technically, a time would come when you can just get this thing and not even a PS5 console. Albeit you would be limited to stuff thats on the PS+ service.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

PlayStation looking more and more like Xbox these days, where we get more hardware & peripheral announcements than 1P game reveals and releases for the console .

I don't have anything else to say other than that. At least for now.

 

[K2D]

So Sony makes the product for free??

It probably would still make them money, but who's going to buy this thing at a premium?

You can't use it stand alone and it is not a must-have peripheral..

 

[hinch7]

I'll wait until its at least half that price when it hits the bargin bin. And even then I'm not sure I want lol.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

All the folks questioning this can't seem to grasp that not everyone has a secondary device for remote play outside of a phone, which is far from ideal.

Assuming this will retail $250 cdn...

Ah. I want it but holy crap they priced this right where id be on the fence about it.

Wonder what the battery life is like.

IMO at this price it should've at least been capable of playing PS1, PS2, and PSP games natively. Give it some extra usage as a portable emulator for older Sony consoles & handhelds.

As-is this thing has very limited appeal.

 

[Phoebe Buffay]

PSP... ortal

I see what you did there.

 

[64bitmodels]

IMO at this price it should've at least been capable of playing PS1, PS2, and PSP games natively.

even then you'd probably be better off getting a capable phone/android handheld and playing those games there. The system will be much smaller and more portable and you get more choice in what you play since you can also emulate Nintendo, Sega, and Arcades.

 

[Fredrik]

I never ever use my Switch or Steam Deck outside, it’s just to play in the bed or in the couch when the TV is occupied. Cautiously optimistic. I could see myself use this as long as there isn’t latency or IQ issues.

 

[Woopah]

really should have added cloud play to this to make it a more enticing product......even without 5G it would have been nice



it's never had input lag that bad for me when i use it at home on my phone

This thing is really only gonna support remote play, not cloud streaming? I really don't understand that, at all. Technically this should be pretty much the same thing as far as this device is concerned, no? But they've just decided to make it almost entirely useless for some reason? Again, I don't understand this at all.

They won't offer Cloud when it's designed as an accessory rather than its own product.

 

[StueyDuck]

I've said it before, I'm willing to be surprised, but I just don't see this pushing many units

 

[RoadHazard]

They won't offer Cloud when it's designed as an accessory rather than its own product.

Yeah, but I don't understand WHY. It would allow Sony to make PS+ money off people who can't or won't buy a PS5. I don't understand why they wouldn't want that. They don't make their money from selling PS5s.

 

[Trunx81]

What do you pay 200 for? Dual Sense costs around 50 dollar. Add a screen and wifi .. you can get OLED 13" on Amazon for 150 dollar.
Not saying that there isn´t a market for a dedicated remote play device to leverage on the success of the switch, but this smells like tax evasion (fail written off).

 

[MarkMe2525]

I am typically a fan of Sony's gaming products. I respect their tenacity and willingness to experiment with consumer grade hardware. This feels like a miss. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong.

 

[Minsc]

A screen that isn't capable of playing games on its own without additional hardware is a pass for sure. Shame they couldn't make it Vita compatible or run Android games/apps or something.

 

[Puscifer]

$200

Remember buying an entire PSP or Vita for that price and getting the functionality built in?

 

[VinnyMac]

I guess it will be added later.

Price isn’t too bad though, might sell decently.

And with that I'm out. That's mind boggling

 

[leo-j]

Remember buying an entire PSP or Vita for that price and getting the functionality built in?

Game consoles used to launch at $299 at one point too.

 

[ksdixon]

I have a Vita that does this.

Might be interested in these though...

Vita can't remote play a PS5, last time I knew?

 

[Sushi_Combo]

So it's a handheld only for your home. Such wasted potential. This makes the Psp Go a much better proposition.

 

[tmlDan]

They won't offer Cloud when it's designed as an accessory rather than its own product.

I know what they did, but they have the tech they should have had it.

Its already a niche product why make it even more niche by not having it

 

[itsjustJEFF]

Yeah, but I don't understand WHY. It would allow Sony to make PS+ money off people who can't or won't buy a PS5. I don't understand why they wouldn't want that. They don't make their money from selling PS5s.

I don't think they're "ready" for Cloud yet. This thing is pretty big, imo, definitely not very portable. I personally never even brought my Switch lite, when I had one. I found out I'm not much of an on-the-go gamer.

I think they will eventually release a "cloud" device that will be much closer to smart phone size. But to reach all those ppl who can't/won't buy a PS5 it'll be cloud thru an app on your phone. There is the backbone thing and I hear that's pretty good.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Honestly you'd be better off using a tablet or a smartphone to do what this does IMO. A cool option for those that may want such a thing, but even for that price I feel like you could get a much better piece of equipment for just a bit more.

 

[JimboJones]

I can only imagine this is for the type of people that just like to buy overpriced first party stuff for the brand.

 

[Mr Moose]

Vita can't remote play a PS5, last time I knew?

Wait, really? Mother fuckers...

 

[fart town usa]

It's pretty amazing how some people are approaching this thing.

Is it ugly? Absolutely.
Overpriced? A bit.

But the PSP/Vita/Switch stuff. That's not what this thing is designed for so please just give it a rest. It's designed for convenience and will address a 1st world problem that not everyone has.

Let's try to ease up until we know if the thing works or not. Only then should we start trashing it.

 

[fart town usa]

IMO at this price it should've at least been capable of playing PS1, PS2, and PSP games natively. Give it some extra usage as a portable emulator for older Sony consoles & handhelds.

As-is this thing has very limited appeal.

You should be able to because you can download PSX, PS2, and PSP games on PS+. It's just the PS3 titles that are streaming only.

Edit- I see what you're saying now. Yea, not gonna happen unfortunately.

 

[Hugare]

IMO at this price it should've at least been capable of playing PS1, PS2, and PSP games natively. Give it some extra usage as a portable emulator for older Sony consoles & handhelds.

As-is this thing has very limited appeal.

Yeah, put PS1/2/P on this thing and it would sell like crazy

There are no cheap retro handhelds that can emulate PS2. It would have been a huge selling point.

$200 for a streaming device is just ridiculous

 

[poodaddy]

Try it again. First time I tried the Remote Play it was a pile of crap.

I'll give it a shot later today and get back to you on it. Do you think it's better on the PSV itself or PC? I haven't downloaded the app on PC yet at all, but if that's the way to go I wonder if I should try it there.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Why can't you use it anywhere on earth ? I used to play my PS3 through my PSVITA when I was traveling...

Not a dedicated handheld that would require its own library of games; that's unsustainable these days. Even Nintendo can't do that and a separate home console, and they have arguably the least expensive AAA games in the business (in terms of production costs), and the cheapest hardware (in terms of specs and build quality, IMO).

But should this have been a PS4 Portable, that could do Remote Play of all PS5 games and native play of PS4 games on the go, and maybe native play of lower-scale PS5 games getting PS4 cross-gen releases anyway (basically lots of indies or annual sports releases, or certain GaaS titles)? Yes, definitely. A device with much more use-cases, and could have been priced higher to boot with likely similar or higher profit margins ($349 or even $399 for that type of portable would be very reasonable).

I get this device is for those who already have PS5s, for second-screen experience, but if those people are willing to pay $200 for "just" this, they would probably be willing to pay $399 for that plus something that could cloud stream PS5 games (including PS+ Premium titles), and natively play PS4 games. And, that would also be a device appealing to other people in the market, even those who don't have PS5 consoles. While still having good profit margins.

But that would've required more effort and, well, this thing doesn't seem like a lot of effort went into it at all, IMO.

Wait, really? Mother fuckers...

Yeah it's only capable of Remote Play PS4. But the Vita is also very old tech-wise, it likely does not support modern internet protocol functions or things like modern secure data packet transfer over the network, or certain video encode/decode in hardware, etc. Not to mention the thing hasn't had an official firmware update in ages.

So it not supporting PS5 Remote Play should be a given.

 

[fart town usa]

I can only imagine this is for the type of people that just like to buy overpriced first party stuff for the brand.

It's designed for people who share a TV and might want to sit in the same room as their loved ones and play a game versus sitting in a separate room. Or for kids who can game and not hog the TV. I'm over here trying to get my wife pregnant, this thing will be a total convenience if it works well. Can't be gaming in the basement with headphones on while the wife is upstairs going through pregnancy things.

Yea there's better alternatives but I want ease of use. If this things works well I'll gladly pay $200 for convenience alone.

 

[RoadHazard]

I don't think they're "ready" for Cloud yet. This thing is pretty big, imo, definitely not very portable. I personally never even brought my Switch lite, when I had one. I found out I'm not much of an on-the-go gamer.

I think they will eventually release a "cloud" device that will be much closer to smart phone size. But to reach all those ppl who can't/won't buy a PS5 it'll be cloud thru an app on your phone. There is the backbone thing and I hear that's pretty good.

None of this explains why they're turning down the free money they could be getting by allowing people to stream games from PS+ to this thing.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Not a dedicated handheld that would require its own library of games; that's unsustainable these days. Even Nintendo can't do that and a separate home console, and they have arguably the least expensive AAA games in the business (in terms of production costs), and the cheapest hardware (in terms of specs and build quality, IMO).

But should this have been a PS4 Portable, that could do Remote Play of all PS5 games and native play of PS4 games on the go, and maybe native play of lower-scale PS5 games getting PS4 cross-gen releases anyway (basically lots of indies or annual sports releases, or certain GaaS titles)? Yes, definitely. A device with much more use-cases, and could have been priced higher to boot with likely similar or higher profit margins ($349 or even $399 for that type of portable would be very reasonable).

I get this device is for those who already have PS5s, for second-screen experience, but if those people are willing to pay $200 for "just" this, they would probably be willing to pay $399 for that plus something that could cloud stream PS5 games (including PS+ Premium titles), and natively play PS4 games. And, that would also be a device appealing to other people in the market, even those who don't have PS5 consoles. While still having good profit margins.

But that would've required more effort and, well, this thing doesn't seem like a lot of effort went into it at all, IMO.

Switch is having trouble with ports of PS3 games and you want a PS5 accessory to be able to play PS4 games NATIVELY???

That would kill the battery life and increase the price big time....

I mean the Logitech Cloud device is like €350 and it's just a streaming device for cloud apps.....

 

[Thedtrain]

I don't think I'd grab this to replace my backbone, but....the price, size and controller make sense to me. I'd buy it used or if I didn't have the backbone

 

[X-Wing]

None of this explains why they're turning down the free money they could be getting by allowing people to stream games from PS+ to this thing.

It will most likely come in the future. They just started PlayStation 5 streaming.

 

[MisterXDTV]

It will most likely come in the future. They just started PlayStation 5 streaming.

Yeah, a firmware update is basically all that's needed

 

[RoadHazard]

It will most likely come in the future. They just started PlayStation 5 streaming.

Yeah, but right now they're selling this thing as being incapable of it. If they're planning on it, why not say that and make the device 10x more attractive?

I thought for sure the PS5 game streaming they have in beta now would be in preparation for this thing, because I have no idea why I'd ever want to stream a PS5 game to my PS5.

 

[itsjustJEFF]

None of this explains why they're turning down the free money they could be getting by allowing people to stream games from PS+ to this thing.

Cause I can't lol it makes no sense... it's what I call a "Playstation move"

They've made numerous decisions in the past that just don't make sense. For every two "good" moves they make they have one that just leaves you scratching your head.

 

[Klosshufvud]

One of the shittiest and most redundant Playstation products yet. Completely tone deaf and cynical.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Perfect, especially for those with a family.

~€200 is the sweet spot.

 

[Filben]

I remote play at work. Right now I’m playing Madden.

I'm constantly driving around for work. Not an option either. So still not for me as it seems.

 

[StereoVsn]

• Doesn't work if it can't connect to local PS5 on WiFi at all
• No Bluetooth (that I can see)
• No PS+ Streaming
• $200

 

[DryvBy]

I'll give it a shot later today and get back to you on it. Do you think it's better on the PSV itself or PC? I haven't downloaded the app on PC yet at all, but if that's the way to go I wonder if I should try it there.

I went with the app since I was out of town. I haven't done the PC version yet but I know some people use it to cheat trophies like some weirdo losers.