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Players are complaining about visual problems in the Final Fantasy VII Rebirth demo
JimboJones
Member
Its not unplayable just a bit surprising, when I first booted it up it reminded me on the first game with the aggressive dynamic res scaling on the PC version.
It's a demo but it's also a performance mode which is visually compromised by default. If the game could run at 60fps with the graphical quality of the 30fps mode there wouldn't be any need to give options.
In graphics mode the game overall looks fantastic, obviously there is the lower polygon asset or lower quality texture if you want to find it but that's kinda pointless in the full picture.
They won't have every single asset at full quality, their design approch is not to have a lower but uniform asset quality everywhere but to try to balance super high quality assets with lower quality stuff they try to hide.
Most of the time it works but if you focus on certain details you will find the odd looking elements.
Just like the original on PS4 had some super awkward elements (the infamous pixelated door, the low res skybox, the low res textures on the debris, the unidentified meat blob in some restaurants
).I wouldn't play this in performance mode until there's more powerful hardware like the PS5 Pro available.
Buggy Loop
Member
Still UE4??
Damn
Damn
JimboJones
Member
Stable camera judder ridden experience lol, no thanks dude.Enjoy your 60 fps PS2 game,performance master race
Meanwhile the rest of us will enjoy stable 30 fps in amazing quality mode.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Considering the turnaround from FFVIIR, shifting to UE5 would have added an additional 2-3 years.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Remember Craig?
DJ12
Member
It said not before May 29th, not it was being released in May although I guess it's possible.
Ps5 remake/integrade was 6 months before the pc version and the trailer said exclusive for 6 months.
Whitecrow
Banned
Well, It's Gaf.
Let me show you the true 8K HyperHD rock textures from a finalized game.
ByWatterson
Member
When will people learn.
We're in the 30fps years now, sometimes 40 (modes at 40 are incredible).
You're not going to keep getting visual improvements at comparable settings. Adapt. Join me in 30fps land.
We're in the 30fps years now, sometimes 40 (modes at 40 are incredible).
You're not going to keep getting visual improvements at comparable settings. Adapt. Join me in 30fps land.
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Hayabusabruh
Member
According to players, most of these problems occur mainly when the game has been selected to run in performance mode, which offers 60 FPS.
In this mode, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth's resolution drops drastically in order for the game to maintain its frame rate (60 FPS). Many believed that the visual problems were due to the low resolution, but it seems that the problem is more serious than it seems, according to John Linneman of Digital Foundry.
So it IS coming to Xbox!
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Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Performance mode sucks yet again. Shocking.
Almost as if console are meant for 30fps gameplay.
You are not going to get good looking 60fps games mid gen unless they have ZERO ambition and water everything down in the game.
Devs are not talented enough to hit 60 and make it look good.
But you stubborn framerate warriors will never learn.
I hope performance mode runs at 480i with pop in and graphical glitches.
Almost as if console are meant for 30fps gameplay.
You are not going to get good looking 60fps games mid gen unless they have ZERO ambition and water everything down in the game.
Devs are not talented enough to hit 60 and make it look good.
But you stubborn framerate warriors will never learn.
I hope performance mode runs at 480i with pop in and graphical glitches.
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Guerilla Munch
Member
fellow 1080p plasma supersampled master race reporting in
every game is smooth as eggs
dudes buy 8k 240hz tvs and then have an aneurysm when their $400 console has a single pixelated rock on the far side of a distant mountain
Skifi28
Member
There's no reason to hope, resolution mode shares most of the issues. It just looks sharper so you can notice them even easier.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I’ll wait for pc
ShadyAcshuns
Member
4k and 30 all the way!
Bojji
Member
I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. This game had bad graphics even in quality mode.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
And its significantly worse in every aspect at 60. Had they simply ignroed the stupid performance mode, they would have been able to make the game much prettier AND smoother all around in a proper 30fps mode. You know, how they used to do it in every gen previous. This performance mode garbage is the root issue of such bad perfoming, undercooked, underpolished games as of late
Kacho
Member
StereoVsn
Member
According to players, most of these problems occur mainly when the game has been selected to run in performance mode, which offers 60 FPS.
In this mode, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth's resolution drops drastically in order for the game to maintain its frame rate (60 FPS). Many believed that the visual problems were due to the low resolution, but it seems that the problem is more serious than it seems, according to John Linneman of Digital Foundry.
Oof, the “Door” Strikes Back!
Seriously though, WTF at how bad some of this looks.
Edit: Every time people go “it’s just a demo”, released game inevitably carries over the same issues. Game releases in a few weeks. This will be likely in game.
And SE is notoriously slow at patching things up. Fingers crossed that by the time PC releases comes about it will be fixed.
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hinch7
Member
I mean I played FFVII R and FFXVI on performance mode and no issues. Sure there's the drop in res and sometimes noticable frame drops, but some (like me) prefer higher fps. Especially coming from PC.. with 30 on consoles that come with their own sets of latency. That just feels much more sluggish to play.
About these screenshots. Looks like texture streaming issues to me. Hopefully won't appear on retail copies on launch.
Paulxo87
Member
Came here to post this but you nailed it.
You 60fps geeks need to fucking go. They need to stop catering to you idiots
Bojji
Member
Performance mode has nothing to do with it, they have problems with this engine (and themselves) - initial PS4 release of Remake was the same with many shit textures and guess what? Game didn't have any 60fps mode, only 30fps.
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Mahnmut
Member
Wat ? People are “overreacting” because they are expecting better quality for a game like this on PS5, and they are right.
Putonahappyface
Member
People that preorder games are fucking nuts.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Yep. Square Enix has a quality issue this generation. It's not Final Fantasy people are upset about.
PharaoTutAnchAmun
Member
Not true if played the whole demo in graphics on my 4k HDR10 tv almost no popin only a few times , no bad textures not once. "This game cannot be saved" Please stop the drama...
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Putonahappyface
Member
Fabieter
Member
People are happily pay 30 to 60 bucks for early access titles that might never be even feature complete and excuse those devs with the game is not done. And some of the very same people are happily go after specific devs before the game is even out. Yes the sqaure enix hate is quite heavily a thing.
Whitecrow
Banned
You are literally blind. No offense.Not true if played the whole demo in graphics on my 4k HDR10 tv almost no popin only a few times , no bad textures not once. "This game cannot be saved" Please stop the drama...
I wont go as far as recording an hdr 4k video, bc I could, but this thread already proves you wrong many times.
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Von Hugh
Member
Skifi28
Member
"We'll let you know."Is it ok to want a locked 40fps in a quality mode?
PharaoTutAnchAmun
Member
I stand by what i say "this game can not be saved" is pure drama....
its a demo from an early build for God sake....
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Fabieter
Member
I stand by what i say "this game can not be saved" is pure drama....
The sqaure hate demands otherwise.
Whitecrow
Banned
I already debunked the 'it's a demo' rethoric. Feel free to check the post.I stand by what i say "this game can not be saved" is pure drama....
And, my words were, "IN THE GRAPHICS DEPARTMENT this game cannot be saved", meaning that there's no valid excuse for the presentation being this bad being a PS5 game, no matter if the game is great or not.
Some of you just dont have an eye for those things.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
According to players, most of these problems occur mainly when the game has been selected to run in performance mode, which offers 60 FPS.
In this mode, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth's resolution drops drastically in order for the game to maintain its frame rate (60 FPS). Many believed that the visual problems were due to the low resolution, but it seems that the problem is more serious than it seems, according to John Linneman of Digital Foundry.
Even advent children looks better
UnrealEck
Member
I was on the fence about waiting for the PC version and went ahead and pre-ordered on PlayStation.
It's a bit frustrating how long it takes them to get the games out on PC. I wish they would pay someone to port it if they don't have the resources to do it themselves.
I played the original FF7 Remake on PS5 (never touched it on PC) and it was fine in performance mode. If it's like that, I don't mind at all.
Having an RTX 4090 and having to play a game on a PS5 is a kick in the balls.
It's a bit frustrating how long it takes them to get the games out on PC. I wish they would pay someone to port it if they don't have the resources to do it themselves.
I played the original FF7 Remake on PS5 (never touched it on PC) and it was fine in performance mode. If it's like that, I don't mind at all.
Having an RTX 4090 and having to play a game on a PS5 is a kick in the balls.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Game looks awful even in the 30 fps mode.
amigastar
Member
2-3 years? never, maybe 6-8 months max. or even less.
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sigmaZ
Member
According to players, most of these problems occur mainly when the game has been selected to run in performance mode, which offers 60 FPS.
In this mode, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth's resolution drops drastically in order for the game to maintain its frame rate (60 FPS). Many believed that the visual problems were due to the low resolution, but it seems that the problem is more serious than it seems, according to John Linneman of Digital Foundry.
Played it quality. It's fine. Looks great. People are nitpicking. Gotta have muh 60 fps on a four year old console that was underpowered on release.
People going out of their way to post this shite are trying to attack the game for some other reason. Just wait for a PC version.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm not just talking about updating from UE4 to UE5, I meant a proper game built from ground on UE5 and possibly utilizing its native features (Nanite specifically, for the draw-in issues).
SkylineRKR
Member
Is it ok to want a locked 40fps in a quality mode?
Well not everyone has a 120hz TV but yes for me this is the way to go. 40fps feels amazing in Forspoken, which by the way eventually looked far better than the demo did. It also feels good in Horizon. Generally in terms of gameplay it feels closer to 60fps, than to 30.
I was disappointed FFXVI didn't have it, and now Rebirth doesn't have it either.
Bojji
Member
When will people learn.
We're in the 30fps years now, sometimes 40 (good GOD quality modes at 40 are incredible).
You're not going to keep getting visual improvements at comparable settings. Adapt. Join me in 30fps land.
Framerate target has nothing to do with anything, game could be 15FPS and still look like that, framerate needs GPU and CPU resources. Textures pretty much only need Video memory and they have at least 13GB (and fast storage) on PS5, yet their game has PS3 quality textures and materials AT BEST.
Look what even PS4 could do (with 5GB of memory):
Even FFXV had better textures most of the time:
And then it keeps being the way to go even better.
